Eir rural FTTH thread III

The Cush · 20-06-2020 10:16AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I see a number of premises there in my locality that says "Not in intervention area" but are available on the Airwire & Eir availability checkers.

"Not in the intervention area" means the premises will be served by the commercial operators like Airwire, eir, etc.

The intervention area is the area covered by the National Broadband Plan via NBI.

shaveAbullock · 20-06-2020 10:39AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Is that map known to contain mistakes? I see a number of premises there in my locality that says "Not in intervention area" but are available on the Airwire & Eir availability checkers.

Exactly they are not in the intervention area because they are already covered.

I had not seen that map before.
My town is currently covered by VDSL and will be upgraded to FTTH with Eir. On my road there is one house that's 200 metres too close to the town to get Eir rural FTTH and 200 metres too far to get urban FTTH. That one house is all on its own and marked as in the intervention area.
Will the NBP have to build infrastructure to connect one home in no mans land?

shaveAbullock · 20-06-2020 10:42AM

numorouno wrote: »

What happened if the wire fell down in a storm outside your house how would they connect it?&#55357;&#56883;

I'm not sure what the question is?
Is it about the repair of damaged drop cables or the main cable?
From what I can see the main cable is inside a heavy duty conduit, I doubt if a storm would damage it. If it came off the pole or the pole was damaged it would be an easy fix.

The Cush · 20-06-2020 10:43AM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Will the NBP have to build infrastructure to connect one home in no mans land?

Difficult or expensive to reach premises can be covered via wireless under the NBP.

shaveAbullock · 20-06-2020 10:49AM

The Cush wrote: »

Difficult or expensive to reach premises can be covered via wireless under the NBP.

What wireless technology are the planning on using?

numorouno · 20-06-2020 11:35PM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

I'm not sure what the question is?
Is it about the repair of damaged drop cables or the main cable?
From what I can see the main cable is inside a heavy duty conduit, I doubt if a storm would damage it. If it came off the pole or the pole was damaged it would be an easy fix.

I meant if the cable did break would they repair it by means of a distribution point or can they join it in a different way

cnocbui · 21-06-2020 12:28AM

numorouno wrote: »

I meant if the cable did break would they repair it by means of a distribution point or can they join it in a different way

I suspect they would replace the length of cable with the break in it, rather than try and splice it.

I get the impression that if you lose service due to a problem with a cable, you are looking at a lot longer for it to be repaired than with copper. Inside a week would be good going.

fmannix10 · 21-06-2020 12:25PM

numorouno wrote: »

I meant if the cable did break would they repair it by means of a distribution point or can they join it in a different way

Mine was repaired and I think they opted to run new cable from DP to DP which was about 11 pole spans.

The Cush · 21-06-2020 12:53PM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

What wireless technology are the planning on using?

Not known at the moment.

eiei0 · 22-06-2020 11:09PM

Comes up red not in zone as over 30meg is available at address??

The Cush wrote: »

Not all premises that were originally included in the 300k were done while others outside the 300k were.

What does the NBI eircode checker indicate for their premises - https://nbi.ie/map/

cnocbui · 22-06-2020 11:18PM

eiei0 wrote: »

Comes up red not in zone as over 30meg is available at address??

That means that the premises should be able to get broadband via fiber to the cabinet, at 30 Mbps. That is a pretty good speed. The rural fiber project was intended to provide a decent service to people who could only dream of such speeds.

Which relates to why I asked if they were close to a village or town.

eiei0 · 23-06-2020 05:37AM

On the eir site it says max speed 24meg and 4 Meg is best they can hope for, which is adsl not fttc, we are 4k from the exchange and about 3k from where the last fttc cabinet is,

cnocbui wrote: »

That means that the premises should be able to get broadband via fiber to the cabinet, at 30 Mbps. That is a pretty good speed. The rural fiber project was intended to provide a decent service to people who could only dream of such speeds.

Which relates to why I asked if they were close to a village or town.

Westnet: Paul · 23-06-2020 09:51AM

eiei0 wrote: »

On the eir site it says max speed 24meg and 4 Meg is best they can hope for, which is adsl not fttc, we are 4k from the exchange and about 3k from where the last fttc cabinet is,

If you want to PM me an Eircode I'll have a look and see if I can figure out what the story is.

Airwire: MartinL · 24-06-2020 10:55PM

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Airwire: MartinL · 30-06-2020 10:27PM

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Gonzo · 01-07-2020 05:06PM

Eir have updated their prices and packages online. Still no 500 so as I expected that package won't be introduced.

However I notice that their 1000 meg plan is now 64.99 a month for existing customers on a 2 year contract, exact same price as i'm paying for 300. So it seems the 1000 is now down to 65 a month from 85, a very good deal if true.

The price of the 1000 meg plan for new customers is 54.99 a month for 24 months.

- Very tempted to upgrade to 1000 and continue to pay the same price as I do now for 300. If I sign up I wonder would they provide me with their new modem or would I have to stay with this fairly crap F2000 modem.

digiman · 01-07-2020 07:58PM

Gonzo wrote: »

Eir have updated their prices and packages online. Still no 500 so as I expected that package won't be introduced.

However I notice that their 1000 meg plan is now 64.99 a month for existing customers on a 2 year contract, exact same price as i'm paying for 300. So it seems the 1000 is now down to 65 a month from 85, a very good deal if true.

The price of the 1000 meg plan for new customers is 54.99 a month for 24 months.

- Very tempted to upgrade to 1000 and continue to pay the same price as I do now for 300. If I sign up I wonder would they provide me with their new modem or would I have to stay with this fairly crap F2000 modem.

So is there only 2 speeds available now? I only see 150Mb/s and 1Gb/s on their site now. Is the upload speed on the 1Gb/s still 100Mb/s?

Gonzo · 01-07-2020 08:16PM

digiman wrote: »

So is there only 2 speeds available now? I only see 150Mb/s and 1Gb/s on their site now. Is the upload speed on the 1Gb/s still 100Mb/s?

Eir stopped offering the 300Mb/s plan last year and have only offered the 150 and 1000 plans ever since.

Kencollins · 01-07-2020 08:33PM

Does anyone know the ports to forward for EIR VOIP when changing the router?

I have replaced the F2000 with the Hauwei Q2 system, and would like to forward only the VOIP ports to the EIR F2000 so the phone will work.

I don't have a network switch to get two IP addresses at the moment so forwarding is the only way

Thanks!

Ken

shaveAbullock · 01-07-2020 08:45PM

Kencollins wrote: »

Does anyone know the ports to forward for EIR VOIP when changing the router?

I have replaced the F2000 with the Hauwei Q2 system, and would like to forward only the VOIP ports to the EIR F2000 so the phone will work.

I don't have a network switch to get two IP addresses at the moment so forwarding is the only way

Thanks!

Ken

Last time I read up on that it was not possible.

Kencollins · 01-07-2020 08:49PM

Thats a pity, I thought I read that someone had done it. I can't get to the login page of the EIR router when its plugged into the LAN port of the Huawei anyway, it doesn't appear to be getting an IP address from the Huawei.

15 euro network switch on the way from amazon!

cnocbui · 01-07-2020 08:49PM

Kencollins wrote: »

Does anyone know the ports to forward for EIR VOIP when changing the router?

I have replaced the F2000 with the Hauwei Q2 system, and would like to forward only the VOIP ports to the EIR F2000 so the phone will work.

I don't have a network switch to get two IP addresses at the moment so forwarding is the only way

Thanks!

Ken

Here is something from an old post of mine:

TP-Link AC1750): -> NAT forwarding -> virtual server - add two entries: redirect port 6050 to the IP address of F2000 - on both UDP and TCP; redirect ports 10,000 - 10,100 to same F2000 IP address with the same protocols enabled.

Actually, that was too old. We later discovered the front most router has to port forward 5061 TCP to the second VOIP (F2000) router in order to be triggered by an incoming call.

cnocbui · 01-07-2020 08:57PM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Last time I read up on that it was not possible.

It is possible, my son did it.

fmannix10 · 02-07-2020 12:32AM

Kencollins wrote: »

Does anyone know the ports to forward for EIR VOIP when changing the router?

I have replaced the F2000 with the Hauwei Q2 system, and would like to forward only the VOIP ports to the EIR F2000 so the phone will work.

I don't have a network switch to get two IP addresses at the moment so forwarding is the only way

Thanks!

Ken

You don't have to forward any ports. It only needs to connect out to Eir. You just need to remove the VLAN 10 tag on the WAN port of the f2000 router and then plug its WAN port into one of the LAN ports on your Hauwei or your switch. The f2000 should already be set to DHCP and pickup a local IP from your Hauwei. You wont be able to access the interface on the eir router unless you plug something into the LAN port or connect directly to the wifi on the f2000.

EDIT: You should probably set a different LAN IP Address range on the f2000 from your Hauwei network too.

leex · 02-07-2020 09:00AM

fmannix10 wrote: »

You don't have to forward any ports. It only needs to connect out to Eir. You just need to remove the VLAN 10 tag on the WAN port of the f2000 router and then plug its WAN port into one of the LAN ports on your Hauwei or your switch. The f2000 should already be set to DHCP and pickup a local IP from your Hauwei. You wont be able to access the interface on the eir router unless you plug something into the LAN port or connect directly to the wifi on the f2000.

EDIT: You should probably set a different LAN IP Address range on the f2000 from your Hauwei network too.

This worked for me to allow us to dial out but after a set period of time (minutes) we couldnt get calls in. Port forwarding resolved the issue.

babi-hrse · 03-07-2020 08:06AM

It's a sagecom router now there are now 4 profiles in play
150 300 500 1000 on installs it's rare but I have come across a couple of 500s

Mc Love · 03-07-2020 11:44AM

Still no sign of FTTH being offered on the website despite installing the fibre on the street I live on around the 18th May. Anyone any idea when it's likely to be offered?

limnam · 03-07-2020 11:54AM

Mc Love wrote: »

Still no sign of FTTH being offered on the website despite installing the fibre on the street I live on around the 18th May. Anyone any idea when it's likely to be offered?

It depends.

Anything from a couple of weeks to months

William_Flynn · 03-07-2020 12:14PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Still no sign of FTTH being offered on the website despite installing the fibre on the street I live on around the 18th May. Anyone any idea when it's likely to be offered?

Someone previously said up to six months from when they start in an area.

In Malahide they started in Feburary and are still working around the town.

cnocbui · 03-07-2020 02:07PM

I have a finance app on my phone (android) and I currently get an add on the app from Eir, saying 'Hey, Tuam' you can now order FTTH, so Eir do advertise availability in some circumstances.

Eir rural FTTH thread III

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