Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Things look to be going backward for one of Europe's starlets.

Austria reports 109 new cases today, it's highest since April 17th.

This follows 107 cases on Wednesday and 68 yesterday. The number of active cases has increased quickly since last weekend.

From 470 to 787 now - which shows how relatively fast things can start to go south.

Just to add a bit more detail to this, these cases are believed to be mostly travel related clusters from a few Balkan countries. The Austrian government has since taken several countries off its "safe travel" list. I'd imagine if it was community transmission it would be a much greater cause for concern.

NDWC wrote: »

Just to add a bit more detail to this, these cases are believed to be mostly travel related clusters from a few Balkan countries. The Austrian government has since taken several countries off its "safe travel" list. I'd imagine if it was community transmission it would be a much greater cause for concern.

Nope, strap yourselves in!!!!

Wolf359f wrote: »

The increase for the most part is based on a cluster of over 100 from a church.
Took all but 5 mins to Google why the increase. Maybe instead of just searching statistics looking for a rise to come back and post here, try find out the reason instead on just dropping numbers.

It does not matter one iota where the cluster is, what the cluster is.

What matters is what the country reports and even if there were 100 related to a church:

a: that's worrying on it's own

b: that does not account for the rise in cases anyway


Switzerland and Austria are both in reverse now and will need to consider which measures to reintroduce whether travel or community related.

Re: Lung transplants:

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Still not seeing the point of posting an outlier , for what effect you might enlighten me.

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Cork-consultant-Patients-already-presenting-in-need-of-lung-transplants-after-surviving-Covid-2a3a2602-2c84-408f-a8ad-63a30ccc4b63-ds

...there is a realistic possibility that in addition to a subset of patients developing pulmonary fibrosis after Covid, a subset of patients may develop pulmonary hypertension secondary to Covid — a type of high blood pressure affecting arteries in the lungs and heart...

"It's not going to be seen for a year or two whether some patients do get this, but we are certainly seeing patients that have been permanently left with advanced pulmonary fibrosis who are meeting the criteria for lung transplants already."

He pointed out the difficult challenges facing consultants adapting to a post-Covid world.

"We know for a fact that some people are ending up with permanent scarring of the lungs and they have been referred for lung transplantation."

Hopefully it won't be common, but it doesn't sound like it'll be a total outlier either.

A large scale antibody study in Brazil has revealed that only 9% of infections are asymtptomatic. 2000 of the 90,000 surveyed had antibodies and 91% of that group of people claimed to have displayed some of the major symptoms of the virus.

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/only-9-of-brazil-s-covid-19-cases-are-asymptomatic-study-11593733640223.html

This is very odd, it is far lower than the asymptomatic rate in most other countries. Could Brazil be experiencing a more dangerous strain, or are south americans more vulnerable to the disease? May explain the very high level of deaths in Latin America despite their very young populations

Wolf359f wrote: »

Your just picking out numbers without a reasoning behind it. We've had large increases here based on historic testing. Other countries include antibody results in with daily numbers.
So it would be nice to have a reason for the increase so we can see the context.

They are not historic, they are active cases - 787, up from 470 last weekend.

https://twitter.com/BethanyBellBB/status/1278969971331252224

Same trend in Switzerland.

It could be just a bump in the road or it could be start of a new broader increase.

So apart from one anecdotal story about tourists in Killarney is there any actual evidence that there has been or will be a mass influx of Yanks to our shores?

While it's worrying we cracked 200,000 cases in a day for the first time yesterday, we also hit >200,000 recoveries for the first time.

Larbre34 wrote: »

Ergo, 1700 Covid deaths, but only 1200 deaths over and above the average.

Right, but they seem to be saying "Our excess is only 1200, not 1700, so we must be over-reporting covid deaths", which isn't a fair conclusion to come to.

Caveat: on phone with crap internet.

thelad95 wrote: »

So apart from one anecdotal story about tourists in Killarney is there any actual evidence that there has been or will be a mass influx of Yanks to our shores?

Maybe not a mass influx but there will be increased numbers

I was up Cork Airport yesterday

On one flight I'd say 40% had originally come from the States

However it was mainly Irish people and families moving home not tourists

LiquidZeb wrote: »

A friend of a friends cousin saw an American tourist with a buggy trying to board a bus in Limerick today. She was told there was no room for the buggy so she threw it to one side with the child still in and said the government would give her a new one. She then proceeded to cough all over everyone on the bus and lick every surface before leaving.

Lol

This is not about what the Americans have the sense to do. There should be absolutely no leisure travel into the EU from the US, zero tolerance.

If there are some here, which I doubt, I'd love to know what air routes they are using.