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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Do you believe ones personal situation should be used to deflect from one's professional actions?
    I feel sympathy for the man and his family but I don't agree his past behaviour should be ignored now in light of wifes illness.
    We all sit in judgement on what people say and do even when we know we shouldn't. The better angels among us tell us when that time may be right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭greensheep777


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Its a bit insensitive asking if Emma Mhic Mhathuna is allowed say anything now

    It's also a bit insensitive to act as if Tony Holohan's wife is the only woman whose cancer matters. Let's see how many more Emma Mhic Mhathunas there are in this country because he wouldn't let them get screenings for months on end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Tony Holohan's personal situation has nothing to do with Covid -19 maybe it's not for this thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Will this now paralyse NPHET without a chair for the next while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,242 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Its a bit insensitive asking if Emma Mhic Mhathuna is allowed say anything now

    Just when you think they cant get any lower.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,260 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    It's also a bit insensitive to act as if Tony Holohan's wife is the only woman whose cancer matters. Let's see how many more Emma Mhic Mhathunas there are in this country because he wouldn't let them get screenings for months on end.

    That went whoooosh over your head so . Asking if Emma Mhic Mhathuna can say anything about anything is very insensitive .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tony Holohan's personal situation has nothing to do with Covid -19 maybe it's not for this thread?
    Well it's relevant in the sense that he's stepping back because of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Will this now paralyse NPHET without a chair for the next while
    Nah, Glynn will step in and TBH it's coming towards its end anyway.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,474 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    greensheep777 you've said your piece about the CMO announcement, now stop trying to derail the thread please


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Is there temperature check setups at our airports right now as a matter of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Will this now paralyse NPHET without a chair for the next while

    No, deputy CMO Dr Ronan Glynn becomes acting CMO. Seemed to be taking more qs in recent briefings, possibly in preparation for this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »

    Five people who contracted Covid-19 abroad died after they came back to Ireland

    Yeah and 1733 people died of it without ever leaving the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    Is there temperature check setups at our airports right now as a matter of interest?

    No but there should be. Plenty of time to have prepared.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,477 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Five people who contracted Covid-19 abroad died after they came back to Ireland

    Yeah and 1733 people died of it without ever leaving the country.

    Wasn't the first case here from travel also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I maintain he did a terrible job in the crucial first weeks.
    He seemed to be asleep at the wheel.

    Now it seems he had a valid excuse. I wish him and his family the best, but also hope for a better system in the future.

    def agree he dropped the ball at the start especially with the nursing homes. I don't think it is a valid excuse though, he should have stepped down at the start if he could not give his full attention to dealing with the pandemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Wasn't the first case here from travel also

    Well it was hardly going to appear out of thin air FFS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Well it was hardly going to appear out of thin air FFS!
    Our first confirmed case in hospitals was actually community transmission in February

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-man-had-covid-19-in-cork-in-late-february-before-first-confirmed-irish-case-1.4278840


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,462 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The UK is scrapping quarantine, now to see how we react as the CTA and UK quarantine was used by Ireland as a reason not to sign up to the EU travel agreement
    https://news.sky.com/story/englands-travel-quarantine-to-be-scrapped-for-trips-from-spain-france-italy-and-germany-12020008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    HSE Daily Operations Update

    20 in hospital, up by 1.

    10 in ICU, down by 2.
    0 deaths last 24 hours.
    No change in ventilations at 7.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    The UK is scrapping quarantine, now to see how we react as the CTA and UK quarantine was used by Ireland as a reason not to sign up to the EU travel agreement
    https://news.sky.com/story/englands-travel-quarantine-to-be-scrapped-for-trips-from-spain-france-italy-and-germany-12020008

    And they are opening up to 90 countrys potentially


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    wadacrack wrote: »

    This would be so awful for me, if my beautiful wife was getting closer to death and required such care. I retract any personal negative comments I made about him, to do with arse covering etc.

    I don't buy into the attitude that we can separate the human from the attitudes, particularly with TH who I definitely disagreed with in terms of his negative, overly cautious attitude. But I certainly do not hold such venom in my Boards.ie posts on a personal level so, if he or those close to him, read my posts, I don't mean it personally.

    Go be with her Tony. I have to say I was taken aback at this news and really wish him all the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,477 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Nick Cordero’s wife says he may need a double lung transplant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Nick Cordero’s wife says he may need a double lung transplant

    That's terrible, what's the revelence though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,267 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I can't really add a whole pile more of worth to say about Tony Holohan after what some people have already said.

    But, here goes...

    It boggles my mind that he was front and center day after day up to this point, with all that was going on behind the scenes. The job he has done has been pretty incredible. I'd say I have watched about 85% of the daily briefings and he's always been consistently clear and unfailingly patient, unflappable and courteous. He even kept his cool when the infamous Jemina Burke had a psychotic episode, accusing him of all sorts.

    The "tyrant" I kept reading about here beared no resembalance to the reasonable, cautious and often reassuring man that sat in front of the media for the guts of an hour every afternoon.

    He's taken some amount of flack, a lot of it totally unjustified and shockingly, knowingly, uninformed. And he was a handy figurehead for the government at times, to hide behind him as a fall guy for unpalatable decisions - while they, seemingly as time went on, renaged on decision making, being more preoccupied with courtship and the odd handy PR win.

    Anyway. The situation with tourists from the UK and The US is a potential time bomb waiting to explode. It doesn't bode well that the powers that be seem more preoccupied with a furore about Junior Ministries. Remember Fianna Fáil guys?
    A few different faces, but still the same self obsessions. Gombeenism is in their DNA.

    I wonder how things are going to play out with pubs. So far the vintners of the country - those well known sticklers for rules - seem pretty happy to let people sit and get tanked in their establishments for well, well past those limits they swore blind that they'd be sticking to religiously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,182 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    That's terrible, what's the revelence though?

    The very bad side of catching coronavirus - leg amputated, pace maker fitted and now this


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,673 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    From an ECDC report issued today on virus resurgence.
    ECDC does not consider travel restrictions within and to the Schengen area as an efficient way to reduce transmission within the EU since community transmission is already taking place in the EU/EEA and data from The European Surveillance System (TESSy) show that, in June 2020, only 3% of confirmed cases were likely infected in a country different from the reporting country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    That's terrible, what's the revelence though?

    Caused by complications from Covid 19.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    That's terrible, what's the revelence though?

    Er. That he has Covid :confused:

    Sounds like he got a horrendous dose
    In March 2020, Cordero contracted COVID-19. His wife, Amanda Kloots, reported that he was in critical condition, on a ventilator, and being treated with dialysis and extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO).[11]

    On April 18, 2020, his right leg was amputated as a result of complications from his illness.[12] As of May 1, 2020, he had major lung damage and had not regained consciousness after being taken off sedation.[13][14][15] By May 13, 2020, Cordero had regained consciousness.[16]

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/entertainment/nick-cordero-coronavirus/index.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Benimar wrote: »
    Caused by complications from Covid 19.

    Complications which affect a miniscule % of those that contract it.


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