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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    See thats what I mean. If something doesn't suit some opinions then people just bend it. If supermarkets aren't reporting any infections sure then its because they choose not to report their infections rather than there not being any.

    All big supermarket chains have reported minuscule infection numbers. Thats a fact.

    **

    And I didnt change my data, I changed the phrase to make sure no one can come along and say 'ah hey there was 5 cases, thats not nothing'. You tried anyway but it still doesn't make it BS. You're just spouting nonsense to deflect from your non fact based argumentation.

    Going by those few exchanges you will not change that tune but others will see it for what it is.


    It is also a fact at the height of the virus they instigated protection measures for their staff as stated previously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved

    All big supermarket chains have reported minuscule infection numbers. Thats a fact.

    Source please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭This time with style


    I'm going to wear a mask for the first time today when I go shopping. I fear the second wave will be worse and surely if everyone was to wear masks it would significantly slow down the spread. I think the wearing of masks should be pushed more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Seanergy wrote: »
    Source please.

    It was discussed on the main thread with sources. I will dig it up.

    Edit: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/supermarket-staff-largely-evade-virus-in-ireland-zs2wbb9xr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved

    All the supermarket chains have commented on their infection rates and its next to nothing.
    .

    All big supermarket chains have reported minuscule infection numbers. Thats a fact.
    Seanergy wrote: »
    Source please.
    It was discussed on the main thread with sources. I will dig it up.

    Edit: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/supermarket-staff-largely-evade-virus-in-ireland-zs2wbb9xr

    That bogus article supplies numbers given to a reporter journalist for just Aldi and Lidl, Super Value did not provide numbers, neither did Dunnes or Tesco, once again not all and not all big. Your posting sloppy opinion and presenting it as fact.

    There is no source for your claims. I want to stay on topic and not be having to pull you up for BS'ing on thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,347 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Yes: surgical
    Not sure why I even bother. I guess such an ignorant one liner just p*sses me off.

    But actually its not 'pure BS', a strongly worded one liner doesn't change that fact. All the supermarket chains have commented on their infection rates and its next to nothing. Your turn...

    You didn’t notice the measures that supermarkets took? Social distancing, queuing, sanitising everything etc. Masks are not as important when we’re all social distancing but now that we’re moving away from that and stuff is opening up people will be in crowded places more often and masks will be essential if we want to avoid going back into lockdown due to an uptick in cases. Maybe you love lockdown but I’ve had enough. I’d rather be out and about with a mask on instead of stuck at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,512 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Supermarkets are a very different experience to what they have been the past few months.

    Where it was one person with a trolley, entire families are now back in roaming the isles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    Listening to Eoghan Corry on RTE Radio 1 discussing moving through Dublin Airport. Masks everywhere and visors also masks for sale in dispensers. Foodcourts not all open and tables socially distanced. He flew yesterday to Malta. Contactless promoted in airport. Flight 70% occupied. Hepa filters filtering air 30 times per hour. !2 flight arrived in Malta. People masked or visors. Masks in flight remove for eating and called out on tannoy if removed otherwise.

    Temps scanned in Malta using overhead technology and staff there to help those with temps. People spacing in barrage arrivals. Meet and greet outside. A lot of high tech terminal testing. In hotel staff masked, shops masks as well, sd encouraged single people on lift unless family group. Pool open with regualtion on numbers. lots of outdoor space.

    Similar protocols for dining in Malta as Ireland

    Interesting to hear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,512 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    khalessi wrote: »

    Similar protocols for dining in Malta as Ireland

    1 plate of chicken wings and 36 pints?

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    Boggles wrote: »
    1 plate of chicken wings and 36 pints?

    :pac:

    Wasnt it 42 pints on the receipt doing the rounds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    Boggles wrote: »
    Supermarkets are a very different experience to what they have been the past few months.

    Where it was one person with a trolley, entire families are now back in roaming the isles.

    And protections still in place. SD markes on floor, protections for staff etc

    It is up to people to control their children and stop them roaming.

    My kids stay with me and maintain social distancing requirements when in shops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭mark2912


    Hi everyone

    What are others opinions on the use of masks? I rely on the bus to get to work each day, and with them wanting to make this mandatory from next week, will there be any exemptions to this?

    I suffer with very bad anxiety to the extent that wearing a mask/face covering at any time just isn't doable.

    As a result, I've had to consider the following:
    Taxis to/from work each day, costing about €200 a week, almost 3/4 of my weekly wages
    DIY haircuts (my hairdressers are insisting on wearing masks at all times)
    Cancelling driving lessons (instructor is also insisting on mask)
    Cancelling planned holidays abroad later in the year (Ryanair also insisting on masks)

    The whole situations is driving my anxiety up the wall, I feel like I want to have a breakdown or a panic attack each time face coverings are mentioned :eek:

    Does anybody know what the official exemptions to wearing a mask in these situations will be? And how I would go about applying for such exemption?

    :mad: :(:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Ask your doctor to increase your dosage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    mark2912 wrote: »
    Hi everyone

    What are others opinions on the use of masks? I rely on the bus to get to work each day, and with them wanting to make this mandatory from next week, will there be any exemptions to this?

    I suffer with very bad anxiety to the extent that wearing a mask/face covering at any time just isn't doable.

    As a result, I've had to consider the following:
    Taxis to/from work each day, costing about €200 a week, almost 3/4 of my weekly wages
    DIY haircuts (my hairdressers are insisting on wearing masks at all times)
    Cancelling driving lessons (instructor is also insisting on mask)
    Cancelling planned holidays abroad later in the year (Ryanair also insisting on masks)

    The whole situations is driving my anxiety up the wall, I feel like I want to have a breakdown or a panic attack each time face coverings are mentioned :eek:

    Does anybody know what the official exemptions to wearing a mask in these situations will be? And how I would go about applying for such exemption?

    :mad: :(:confused:

    All submissions for exemptions will have to be made in person orally. Only kicker is you must wear a mask in order to give your submission. If you are successful at giving your submission, you automatically fail as you were able to wear a mask. Madness I tell ya. Madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    No: other
    Can you attend online therapy or discuss treating your anxiety with your GP by phone, seeing as it’s affecting your day-to-day living? They won’t see you without a mask either, I’d imagine.

    I hadn’t heard about official exemptions but it seems like something you might have to work to overcome, rather than trying to find a way around it. Even if you practice wearing it for as long as you can at home a few times a day, even if it’s only ten seconds to start with, and build yourself up to get used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    WOuld a face visor do instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Will any kind of mask/ coverings trigger your anxiety? The surgical ones are much less restrictive than the more common cloth ones I've found, have you tried them? Or even a scarf over your mouth will do in a pinch. Remember the point is to catch what you are breathing out, so it doesn't need to be super restrictive or tight. The other thing to do is just practice at home under control and get a little used to wearing them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-masks-disposable-gloves.html#:~:text=Cloth%20face%20coverings%20are%20not,to%20remove%20it%20without%20help
    Who should not wear one
    Cloth face coverings are not suitable for children under the age of 13 and anyone who:

    has trouble breathing
    is unconscious or incapacitated
    is unable to remove it without help
    has special needs and who may feel upset or very uncomfortable wearing the face covering

    Assuming these will remain a part of the 'mandatory face mask' guidelines you should be fine. I presume your GP or Consultant is aware of your anxiety disorder and would be able to write you a letter if you needed it?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No: other
    mark2912 wrote: »
    ...........

    I suffer with very bad anxiety to the extent that wearing a mask/face covering at any time just isn't doable...........

    Could you not put one on at home as a trial ........... why do masks trigger your anxiety do you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭mark2912


    Will any kind of mask/ coverings trigger your anxiety? The surgical ones are much less restrictive than the more common cloth ones I've found, have you tried them? Or even a scarf over your mouth will do in a pinch. Remember the point is to catch what you are breathing out, so it doesn't need to be super restrictive or tight. The other thing to do is just practice at home under control and get a little used to wearing them
    Augeo wrote: »
    Could you not put one on at home as a trial ........... why do masks trigger your anxiety do you know?

    I got one of those black reusable ones for €2/3 and tried it for a few seconds, could feel butterflies in my stomach instantly. It makes me feel so claustrophobic and I would feel embarrassed wearing it in front of friends/family/strangers :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    mark2912 wrote: »
    I got one of those black reusable ones for €2/3 and tried it for a few seconds, could feel butterflies in my stomach instantly. It makes me feel so claustrophobic and I would feel embarrassed wearing it in front of friends/family/strangers :(

    Yeah my mother also had trouble with one of those, try a scarf!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭annoyedgal


    Are you getting any support for your anxiety? A counseller or gp support? They might be best placed to help you with this.
    If you could find a strategy to make wearing a mask bearable it might make your life easier than avoiding situations which require one.
    I've tried a fewv masks and the ones you can buy in a ten pack in pharmacy have been the most comfortable. Can breathe in them easily and don't slip. Maybe a visor as was suggested?
    Masks could be with us for the forseeable so you might be best to get some support to overcome this anxiety if you can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    mark2912 wrote: »
    Hi everyone

    What are others opinions on the use of masks? I rely on the bus to get to work each day, and with them wanting to make this mandatory from next week, will there be any exemptions to this?

    I suffer with very bad anxiety to the extent that wearing a mask/face covering at any time just isn't doable.

    As a result, I've had to consider the following:
    Taxis to/from work each day, costing about €200 a week, almost 3/4 of my weekly wages
    DIY haircuts (my hairdressers are insisting on wearing masks at all times)
    Cancelling driving lessons (instructor is also insisting on mask)
    Cancelling planned holidays abroad later in the year (Ryanair also insisting on masks)

    The whole situations is driving my anxiety up the wall, I feel like I want to have a breakdown or a panic attack each time face coverings are mentioned :eek:

    Does anybody know what the official exemptions to wearing a mask in these situations will be? And how I would go about applying for such exemption?

    :mad: :(:confused:

    Nobody who is anxious will be made to wear a mask to use public transport. I'd get a letter from your doctor and just keep it with you. I very much doubt this will be policed in any serious way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭mark2912


    annoyedgal wrote: »
    Are you getting any support for your anxiety? A counseller or gp support? They might be best placed to help you with this.
    If you could find a strategy to make wearing a mask bearable it might make your life easier than avoiding situations which require one.
    I've tried a fewv masks and the ones you can buy in a ten pack in pharmacy have been the most comfortable. Can breathe in them easily and don't slip. Maybe a visor as was suggested?
    Masks could be with us for the forseeable so you might be best to get some support to overcome this anxiety if you can.

    I really hope they won't be with us for the forseeable, I actually don't think I would be able to cope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    Can you wear a scarf? They are acceptable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭davo2001


    mark2912 wrote: »
    I really hope they won't be with us for the forseeable, I actually don't think I would be able to cope

    They will and you're going to have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭mark2912


    khalessi wrote: »
    Can you wear a scarf? They are acceptable

    I cannot wear anything be it a scarf, or surgical or reusable mask.

    It's looking like I'll have to use taxis for the forseeable to get to and from work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,556 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Yes: homemade
    mark2912 wrote: »
    I really hope they won't be with us for the forseeable, I actually don't think I would be able to cope

    Your GP or specialist will be able to prescribe something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    That's our best solution, another mask thread?

    "I thought the last one went very well".


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