Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

duploelabs · 30-06-2020 11:14PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

One diplomat's hearsay isn't the entire Chinese state.

Yes DT is a deal maker, but not for deals that suit his opposition. He's played hardball with Chiin-yaa from the get go, pretty sure they'd prefer more placid* Joe, and less of the protectionism.

Meanwhile, a recent poll shows 40% of Americans surveyed think Joe has *dementia (of some form).

The poll, conducted via telephone and online, surveyed 1,000 likely voters from Thursday to Saturday and has a sampling error margin of +/- 3 percentage points. The voters said that based on what they've "seen and read," 48 percent don't believe he has dementia, while 14 percent said they aren't sure.

Per Rasmussen, 20 percent of Democratic voters believe he has dementia — while 66 percent of Republicans, along with 30 percent of voters that didn't identify with a major party, believed that, too.

Apart from the dementia shock, define how the Donald is a good negotiator with regards of China?

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-07-2020 01:27AM

duploelabs wrote: »

define how the Donald is a good negotiator with regards of China?

Define how he isn't. China has taken a fiscal hit, thanks to new tariffs.

Taiwan, Mexico (more complementary for the US economy) and Vietnam are benefiting from new US deals and partnerships instead.

Don't foget China is heading for x2 USGDP come 2060, if you do nothing and sit on hands, the yellow man (so to speak, and as predicted a long time ago) really 'will run the world'.

Just seen Joe on CNN, looks really low-energy could barely raise his voice.
Reckon he'll withdraw around Septermber, the only question is who'll be the replacement. If it's someone with a bit more presence, then it'll actually be a close competition.

rossie1977 · 01-07-2020 04:37AM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

Define how he isn't. China has taken a fiscal hit, thanks to new tariffs.

China took fiscal hit due to Covid. Nothing to do with Trumps disastrous trade wars.. a war that's hurt America and American farmers far more than China.

Taiwan, Mexico (more complementary for the US economy) and Vietnam are benefiting from new US deals and partnerships instead.

Do you data to to back this up.. not some Republican backed Youtube blog

Don't foget China is heading for x2 USGDP come 2060, if you do nothing and sit on hands, the yellow man (so to speak, and as predicted a long time ago) really 'will run the world'.

China will become the strongest economy on Earth within the next decade. Nothing anyone can do about that.

They have more people whose wealth increases daily. As a one party system they can do as they please and Chinese are just more motivated than westerners as a whole. There is 1.5 billion people that will do exactly what their government tell them..

Trump pulling the US out of TPP has just quickened China rise to the top.

China already run most of Africa and Middle East and now the entire Pacific will follow.

Just seen Joe on CNN, looks really low-energy could barely raise his voice.
Reckon he'll withdraw around Septermber, the only question is who'll be the replacement. If it's someone with a bit more presence, then it'll actually be a close competition.

He won't and why would he. He is leading Trump in every poll.

As long as Biden does jack squat Trump will continue digging his own grave. Even before the pandemic response Trump knew he faced a fight with Biden. Thats why he asked Ukraine for dirt knowing full well he would be impeached if caught.

notobtuse · 01-07-2020 02:10PM

Oh boy, Joe Biden has ventured from his basement bunker and attended a little campaign event in his state of Delaware. Looked like he forgot Trump’s name when he was asked a question about the concerns over his cognitive decline.

I got a tick out of the part of his answer... “I’ve been tested, I’m constantly tested” “Look, all you’ve got to do is watch me”

Earth to Joe... people have been watching you. That’s why they’re concerned over your cognitive decline.

ohnonotgmail · 01-07-2020 02:11PM

notobtuse wrote: »

Oh boy, Joe Biden has ventured from his basement bunker and attended a little campaign event in his state of Delaware. Looked like he forgot Trump’s name when he was asked a question about the concerns over his cognitive decline.

I got a tick out of the part of his answer... “I’ve been tested, I’m constantly tested” “Look, all you’ve got to do is watch me”

Earth to Joe... people have been watching you. That’s why they’re concerned over your cognitive decline.

you need a new record. that one is broken.

notobtuse · 01-07-2020 02:17PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you need a new record. that one is broken.

What's broken is the DNC candidate.

ohnonotgmail · 01-07-2020 02:34PM

notobtuse wrote: »

What's broken is the DNC candidate.

you need a new slogan. let us know when you trumps team think of one so you can parrot it endlessly.

Overheal · 01-07-2020 02:35PM

notobtuse wrote: »

Oh boy, Joe Biden has ventured from his basement bunker and attended a little campaign event in his state of Delaware. Looked like he forgot Trump’s name when he was asked a question about the concerns over his cognitive decline.

I got a tick out of the part of his answer... “I’ve been tested, I’m constantly tested” “Look, all you’ve got to do is watch me”

Earth to Joe... people have been watching you. That’s why they’re concerned over your cognitive decline.

Serious Biden derangement syndrome. We all feel your hatred but it gives you neither focus nor power, apprentice.

joseywhales · 01-07-2020 02:39PM

Overheal wrote: »

Serious Biden derangement syndrome. We all feel your hatred but it gives you neither focus nor power, apprentice.

I don't think "concerned" was an accurate verb either, there is no concern from his detractors

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-07-2020 02:43PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

China took fiscal hit due to Covid. Nothing to do with Trumps disastrous trade wars.. a war that's hurt America and American farmers far more than China.

Nonsense, the West is suffering far more, and for far longer, that China ever did from COVID, hello?

China exports far more to the US, than vice versa. Check yo'self.
A slap load of tarrifs on any trade in/out will hurt China (the #1 exporters) the most.

US has previously invested heavily in S.Kor, now it's the turn of Mexico, Vietnam and/or anyone else in Asia, instead of China.

rossie1977 wrote: »

China will become the strongest economy on Earth within the next decade. Nothing anyone can do about that.

Clearly, doh!.

However there is plenty that can be done about that (ranging from subtle to SHTF solutions). It's 2060 that is the real concern, they'll outclass the US & EU combined then. India won't be far behind in 2nd place also, ahead of US & EU.

Sleepy Joe the globalist however won't play hard ball with them, instead he'll tax US industry with a nightmarish 40%, who in turn will revert to underpriced, currency devalued Chinese tosh.

rossie1977 wrote: »

Trump pulling the US out of TPP has just quickened China rise to the top.

Any data to back up this, of did you pull it from some left wing blog?

rossie1977 wrote: »

China already run most of Africa and Middle East and now the entire Pacific will follow.

Any data to back up this, of did you pull it from some left wing blog?
They've invested heavily in certain parts of Africa e.g. Angola, and have some ports on 999yr leases.
Do they now 'run' 'the entire A&ME' as you claim? Eyerolls & Lols....

Quin_Dub · 01-07-2020 02:51PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

Nonsense, the West is suffering far more, and for far longer, that China ever did from COVID, hello?

China exports far more to the US, than vice versa. Check yo'self.
A slap load of tarrifs on any trade in/out will hurt China (the #1 exporters) the most.

US has previously invested heavily in S.Kor, now it's the turn of Mexico, Vietnam and/or anyone else in Asia, instead of China.

Clearly, doh!.

However there is plenty that can be done about that (ranging from subtle to SHTF solutions). It's 2060 that is the real concern, they'll outclass the US & EU combined then. India won't be far behind in 2nd place also, ahead of US & EU.

Sleepy Joe the globalist however won't play hard ball with them, instead he'll tax US industry with a nightmarish 40%, who in turn will revert to underpriced, currency devalued Chinese tosh.

Any data to back up this, of did you pull it from some left wing blog?

Any data to back up this, of did you pull it from some left wing blog?
They've invested heavily in certain parts of Africa e.g. Angola, and have some ports on 999yr leases.
Do they now 'run' 'the entire A&ME' as you claim? Eyerolls & Lols....

Do we really have to explain again who pays for tariffs???

Quin_Dub · 01-07-2020 02:57PM

notobtuse wrote: »

What's broken is the DNC candidate.

What does that say about the current incumbent given that he's getting his ass handed to him by (according to you and GOP Party HQ) a senile dementia sufferer hiding in his basement???

notobtuse · 01-07-2020 03:02PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

What does that say about the current incumbent given that he's getting his ass handed to him by (according to you and GOP Party HQ) a senile dementia sufferer hiding in his basement???

That says to me that the Democrat media handmaidens are doing quite a good job in throwing away journalistic integrity and pushing a person to become POTUS in which cognitive decline means nothing to them because their hatred for Trump trumps all.

Overheal · 01-07-2020 03:05PM

notobtuse wrote: »

That says to me that the Democrat media handmaidens are doing quite a good job in throwing away journalistic integrity and pushing a person to become POTUS in which cognitive decline means nothing to them because their hatred for Trump trumps all.

Delusional.

Quin_Dub · 01-07-2020 03:06PM

notobtuse wrote: »

That says to me that the Democrat media handmaidens are doing quite a good job in throwing away journalistic integrity and pushing a person to become POTUS in which cognitive decline means nothing to them because their hatred for Trump trumps all.

So it's all the fault of the Media??

Has Trump anything he could improve on to help himself at all in you view?

baaba maal · 01-07-2020 03:16PM

notobtuse wrote: »

That says to me that the Democrat media handmaidens are doing quite a good job in throwing away journalistic integrity and pushing a person to become POTUS in which cognitive decline means nothing to them because their hatred for Trump trumps all.

How about this- I hate both Clinton's- a pair of charlatans masquerading as moral entities, I think Obama's second term was a total waste of opportunity (even with the upper and lower house dynamics) and Biden is a typical careerist politician with a history of dubious voting patterns. So, not a fan of the Democrats any more than the Republicans- and I STILL think Trump is hands down the worst politician of any developed country that I have witnessed in my 51 years.
Your constant refrain of "look over there, Biden has dementia" is beyond pathetic. Allied with your refusal to acknowledge that stunts like the assault on the constitution that the Bible-waving shytshow was, makes you look like you simply cannot admit what you know to be true. Trump may reflect "values" that you hold, but he is singularly unsuited to the role of POTUS, and deep down, you probably know this.

notobtuse · 01-07-2020 03:17PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

So it's all the fault of the Media??

Has Trump anything he could improve on to help himself at all in you view?

Trump could cure cancer and the democrats and their media handmaidens would come up with some reason to complain about hospitals, doctors and nurses losing their jobs.

Because of mainstream media hatred, Trump still needs a way to bypass media bias and get his message directly to the people. Perhaps remove himself form Twitter's bias and join Parler?

01-07-2020 03:22PM

notobtuse wrote: »

Trump could cure cancer and the democrats and their media handmaidens would come up with some reason to complain about hospitals, doctors and nurses losing their jobs.

Because of mainstream media hatred, Trump still needs a way to bypass media bias and get his message directly to the people. Perhaps remove himself form Twitter's bias and join Parler?

Parler has 1.5 million users so no real reach. On top of that, all the negative press that Trump gets is of his own creation.

He literally tried to get Russia into the G8 after the fact it turned out Russia had bounties on US soldiers... So either he knew or entirely oblivious to intelligence that he was handed. Neither reflects on him well but it's all part of a well established pattern of incompetence.

paul71 · 01-07-2020 03:22PM

notobtuse wrote: »

Trump could cure cancer and the democrats and their media handmaidens would come up with some reason to complain about hospitals, doctors and nurses losing their jobs.

Because of mainstream media hatred, Trump still needs a way to bypass media bias and get his message directly to the people. Perhaps remove himself form Twitter's bias and join Parler?

It would not be beyond Trump to claim he has already cured cancer and for his idiot base to buy his line.

Quin_Dub · 01-07-2020 03:32PM

notobtuse wrote: »

Trump could cure cancer and the democrats and their media handmaidens would come up with some reason to complain about hospitals, doctors and nurses losing their jobs.

Because of mainstream media hatred, Trump still needs a way to bypass media bias and get his message directly to the people. Perhaps remove himself form Twitter's bias and join Parler?

Not really the question I asked.

He is significantly behind in every single poll , in every place that it matters.

Do you believe that Trump deserves to be re-elected based on his current performance and that it is only because "The media are being mean to him" that he is not ahead in all the polls?

Other than "Getting his unfiltered message out" , do you feel there are any areas in which Trump could do with a bit of improvement to further his support?

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-07-2020 03:38PM

notobtuse wrote: »

Oh boy, Joe Biden has ventured from his basement bunker and attended a little campaign event in his state of Delaware. Looked like he forgot Trump’s name when he was asked a question about the concerns over his cognitive decline.

I got a tick out of the part of his answer... “I’ve been tested, I’m constantly tested” “Look, all you’ve got to do is watch me”

Earth to Joe... people have been watching you. That’s why they’re concerned over your cognitive decline.

What's your thoughts on Trumps (Non) answer to Hannity when asked what his policies will be if he is re-elected?

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-07-2020 03:39PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

Nonsense, the West is suffering far more, and for far longer, that China ever did from COVID, hello?

China exports far more to the US, than vice versa. Check yo'self.
A slap load of tarrifs on any trade in/out will hurt China (the #1 exporters) the most.

US has previously invested heavily in S.Kor, now it's the turn of Mexico, Vietnam and/or anyone else in Asia, instead of China.

Clearly, doh!.

However there is plenty that can be done about that (ranging from subtle to SHTF solutions). It's 2060 that is the real concern, they'll outclass the US & EU combined then. India won't be far behind in 2nd place also, ahead of US & EU.

Sleepy Joe the globalist however won't play hard ball with them, instead he'll tax US industry with a nightmarish 40%, who in turn will revert to underpriced, currency devalued Chinese tosh.

Any data to back up this, of did you pull it from some left wing blog?

Any data to back up this, of did you pull it from some left wing blog?
They've invested heavily in certain parts of Africa e.g. Angola, and have some ports on 999yr leases.
Do they now 'run' 'the entire A&ME' as you claim? Eyerolls & Lols....

The irony of you asking for data to back up a claim :rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail · 01-07-2020 03:52PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The irony of you asking for data to back up a claim :rolleyes:

perhaps there is a book thousands of years old that can be used as a source?

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-07-2020 03:57PM

So folks are thus now suggesting a tough trade deal with slap load of tarrifs, and a US policy of protectionism, are actually all great things for the Chinese exporters, lolz.

Make China Great Again, isit?

ohnonotgmail · 01-07-2020 03:58PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

So folks are thus now suggesting a tough trade deal with slap load of tarrifs, are actually a great thing for the Chinese exporters, lolz.

Make China Great Again, isit?

who pays for the tariffs?

Quin_Dub · 01-07-2020 04:03PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

So folks are thus now suggesting a tough trade deal with slap load of tarrifs, are actually a great thing for the Chinese exporters, lolz.

Make China Great Again, isit?

It's isn't great for either one and both sides are hurt to some degree in a tariff war.

However it's like comparing a kick in the balls to a slap in the face.

And FYI - It's the people who actually PAY the tariffs are the ones getting the kick in the balls.

And make no mistake , the US consumers are the ones paying.

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-07-2020 04:06PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

So folks are thus now suggesting a tough trade deal with slap load of tarrifs, and a US policy of protectionism, are actually all great things for the Chinese exporters, lolz.

Make China Great Again, isit?

How did Trumps tariffs work out for American farmers?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2019/08/12/trumps-trade-wars-are-hurting-midwest-farmers-banks-and-state-coffers/amp/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/economy/3-reasons-farmers-hurt-by-the-u-s-china-trade-war-still-support-trump

4068ac1elhodqr · 01-07-2020 04:13PM

In a tariff/trade war, the world's #1 exporter will in the medium, and longer term take the most hurt.

Plenty of other countries to source from instead, along with overdue investment in homegrown US industry, who will actually be the winner.

...well that is until Joe drops the CTX, CGT and a raft of other tax rises. Reducing US GDP by 1.51%* over the long term.
*Tax Foundation’s General Equilibrium Model for Biden's tax plan.

duploelabs · 01-07-2020 04:32PM

Easton Melted Mineralogist wrote: »

In a tariff/trade war, the world's #1 exporter will in the medium, and longer term take the most hurt.

Plenty of other countries to source from instead, along with overdue investment in homegrown US industry, who will actually be the winner.

...well that is until Joe drops the CTX, CGT and a raft of other tax rises. Reducing US GDP by 1.51%* over the long term.
*Tax Foundation’s General Equilibrium Model for Biden's tax plan.

Who pays for the tarrifs?

notobtuse · 01-07-2020 04:32PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Not really the question I asked.

He is significantly behind in every single poll , in every place that it matters.

Do you believe that Trump deserves to be re-elected based on his current performance and that it is only because "The media are being mean to him" that he is not ahead in all the polls?

Other than "Getting his unfiltered message out" , do you feel there are any areas in which Trump could do with a bit of improvement to further his support?

The polls don’t make sense to me. What does make sense it their reliance on far too many democrats in the sampling to make Biden look better. The majority think Biden IS suffering from cognitive decline. Also Trump leads Biden on economic issues and people ultimately vote from their pocket books. The areas Biden leads Trump are issues most American’s put at the bottom of their list of concerns. Therefore Biden leading by so much makes absolutely no sense.

And sure there are areas Trump can do better. Probably in everything as no one is infallible and there’s always room for improvement. I have said the same for every president. But overall I think Trump is doing a good job so far and deserves to be reelected.

Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

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