Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

ZX7R · 28-06-2020 07:46PM

What's next on the list to argue about after the 9th of July

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 07:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Here is €2,900 for a week in lanzarote for a family room, before flights. Anyone can cherry pick to tell a story
https://www.booking.com/hotel/es/princesa-yaiza-suite-resort.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggI46AdIM1gEaGmIAQKYAQm4AQfIAQ3YAQHoAQH4AQuIAgGoAgO4Arja4_cFwAIB0gIkOWRkMTEwZmMtYTJmNS00YTgzLWI4NDctNzU4NmYyZDBkY2E02AIG4AIB;sid=42ec5362e3d603324d9c1895961fde2c;age=0;all_sr_blocks=24402816_247239759_0_1_0;checkin=2020-08-22;checkout=2020-08-29;dest_id=-396946;dest_type=city;dist=0;from_beach_key_ufi_sr=1;group_adults=2;group_children=1;hapos=1;highlighted_blocks=24402816_247239759_0_1_0;hpos=1;matching_block_id=24402816_247239759_0_1_0;no_rooms=1;ref_is_wl=1;req_adults=2;req_age=0;req_children=1;room1=A%2CA%2C0;sb_price_type=total;sr_order=popularity;sr_pri_blocks=24402816_247239759_0_1_0__239675;srepoch=1593371986;srpvid=4a3787e9d0f6013d;type=total;ucfs=1&

And if you've ever been to Lanzarote you'll know that place is the equivalent of the Sherbourne standard wise. Apples and oranges. There's only 1 sort of clientele staying in both, those with plenty of disposable income.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 07:47PM

ZX7R wrote: »

What's next on the list to argue about after the 9th of July

pubs 20th July that'll be the next topic

ShyMets · 28-06-2020 07:50PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

pubs 20th July that'll be the next topic

That's going to be fun

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 07:52PM

ShyMets wrote: »

That's going to be fun

God help this thread when the first weekend comes

GetWithIt · 28-06-2020 07:52PM

I’d somewhat assumed there’d be barbers and hairdressers opening at midnight tonight, with some mildly comical scenes of people queueing with bad heads of hair.

Please tell me we haven’t waited all this time just for people to be all sensible?

Jim_Hodge · 28-06-2020 07:53PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

pubs 20th July that'll be the next topic

And the price of a pint in Dublin versus Ballinagh?

This has gone beyond ridiculous.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 07:53PM

GetWithIt wrote: »

I’d somewhat assumed there’d be barbers and hairdressers opening at midnight tonight, with some mildly comical scenes of people queueing with bad heads of hair.

Please tell me we haven’t waited all this time just for people to be all sensible?

There's a few barbers in Dublin doing it alright. Pretty sure grafton barbers are opening a few branches at a minute past 12

podgeandrodge · 28-06-2020 07:58PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/trancebo/status/1276583563757043712

Good to see attention from the garda to this

Good to see "attention from the garda" ????

He is placing the shop manager (and others nearby) in far more risk of Covid by roaring at him like that compared to the people standing in a queue that is more like 1m distancing.

Perhaps the video does not tell the whole story, but on the face of it, the Garda is unnecessarily aggressive and not in control of himself.

ShyMets · 28-06-2020 07:59PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

God help this thread when the first weekend comes

Yep, this thread is going to be carnage. But on another level its nice to see people aren't bickering over numbers or potential second waves

podgeandrodge · 28-06-2020 08:03PM

I am booked into the pub tomorrow night. Wish me luck!

CruelSummer · 28-06-2020 08:03PM

ZX7R wrote: »

What's next on the list to argue about after the 9th of July

I cannot stand this constant propaganda re a staycation - what terrible value for money!
This is why Ireland should be opened to air travel to the EU right now; the scaremongering machine has gone into overdrive this weekend and it’s absolutely ridiculous. Posted on a travel thread but think it should go here too:

1. Tony Holohan&NPHET are in an advisory position and absolutely should not be launching their own anti-travel campaign without consultation with the relevant authorities in government. Firstly this will costs thousands of jobs & should have been ironed out behind the scenes weeks ago including something that is in their remit - how to control entry & exit from Ireland + what measures we would put in place at airports and in the country for reopening. Why has this not been done?
2. Ireland is an ISLAND. We need connectivity to grow, have a functioning economy and sustain any development or indeed our health service. Closing the travel option full stop will destroy this industry and it may not ever recover. Is this necessary? Other EU countries think it’s not.
3. Our government should be delivering news to us in an orderly way re travel options, warnings, etc. Not NPHET or their cronies flying in the face of what Varadkar said a few days previously.
It seems what’s more important to them is getting Covid cases to zero no matter what the cost, be it cancer screenings, small businesses, jobs - what’s another few thousand on the dole if we can keep our numbers and us looking great.
4. At the moment, people in Ireland are left in no man’s land while our counterparts in the U.K. spent today booking great deals to the sun. Families whose holidays are paid for, will either have to lose their money and go nowhere as they can’t pay on the double for the glorified ‘staycation’, or they go and their travel insurance doesn’t cover them because Dr Tony&NPHET decided he’d screw them and the Irish people over re summer breaks.
5. Anyone looked out the window at the weather this weekend? If NPHET were such champions of a ‘staycation’ , why didn’t they reopen fully for July with certain measures that aren’t 105 minutes stay in restaurants? Will I get Covid if I stay 106 minutes? It’s absolutely ridiculous. Why aren’t pools open? Why isn’t the tropical paradise in Center Parcs open? Why aren’t restaurants and pubs & cinemas reopening? There is NOTHING to do with a family of young children if the weather is bad here for a holiday currently.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 08:05PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I am booked into the pub tomorrow night. Wish me luck!

Enjoy it, booked in myself for dinner and few drinks on Thursday night with the lads for the city v Liverpool game

NotMOL · 28-06-2020 08:06PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you can't afford a holiday here on the island you can't afford a foreign one either. There's accomodation within everyones budget.

But the standard is completely difference, for a price of a affordable apartment or hotel room in say Spain or Greece will get you an absolute **** b&b in Ireland with a shared bathroom

MickeyLeari · 28-06-2020 08:17PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I cannot stand this constant propaganda re a staycation - what terrible value for money!
This is why Ireland should be opened to air travel to the EU right now; the scaremongering machine has gone into overdrive this weekend and it’s absolutely ridiculous. Posted on a travel thread but think it should go here too:

1. Tony Holohan&NPHET are in an advisory position and absolutely should not be launching their own anti-travel campaign without consultation with the relevant authorities in government. Firstly this will costs thousands of jobs & should have been ironed out behind the scenes weeks ago including something that is in their remit - how to control entry & exit from Ireland + what measures we would put in place at airports and in the country for reopening. Why has this not been done?
2. Ireland is an ISLAND. We need connectivity to grow, have a functioning economy and sustain any development or indeed our health service. Closing the travel option full stop will destroy this industry and it may not ever recover. Is this necessary? Other EU countries think it’s not.
3. Our government should be delivering news to us in an orderly way re travel options, warnings, etc. Not NPHET or their cronies flying in the face of what Varadkar said a few days previously.
It seems what’s more important to them is getting Covid cases to zero no matter what the cost, be it cancer screenings, small businesses, jobs - what’s another few thousand on the dole if we can keep our numbers and us looking great.
4. At the moment, people in Ireland are left in no man’s land while our counterparts in the U.K. spent today booking great deals to the sun. Families whose holidays are paid for, will either have to lose their money and go nowhere as they can’t pay on the double for the glorified ‘staycation’, or they go and their travel insurance doesn’t cover them because Dr Tony&NPHET decided he’d screw them and the Irish people over re summer breaks.
5. Anyone looked out the window at the weather this weekend? If NPHET were such champions of a ‘staycation’ , why didn’t they reopen fully for July with certain measures that aren’t 105 minutes stay in restaurants? Will I get Covid if I stay 106 minutes? It’s absolutely ridiculous. Why aren’t pools open? Why isn’t the tropical paradise in Center Parcs open? Why aren’t restaurants and pubs & cinemas reopening? There is NOTHING to do with a family of young children if the weather is bad here for a holiday currently.

Points very well made.

There are many people who have money tied up in flights which may or may not go - money does not grow on trees. I should add that the Government has not done anything to help with refunds.

ax530 · 28-06-2020 08:18PM

I love holidays but think it is easy to decide in not going on holidays this year. These discussions make it out as people have decision abroad (risk bringing more covid into country) and staycation (too expensive)
Decided back in Jan not to book holiday due to uncertainty around covid. Hope to visit few spots around Ireland as day trips.
Perhaps it where I am but don't think it is unusual people not to go away home or abroad.
Know we need tourists for businesses but I not comfortable with people from countries who did not manage the crisis well being able to holiday here without restriction s or quarantine.

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 08:19PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Enjoy it, booked in myself for dinner and few drinks on Thursday night with the lads for the city v Liverpool game

Better hope it doesn't go in to extra time

blade1 · 28-06-2020 08:22PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Better hope it doesn't go in to extra time

If it does it'll probably be the first time ever for a league match

political analyst · 28-06-2020 08:30PM

It was blindingly obvious to the world that the first Covid cases to become public knowledge had symptoms similar to those of the 2002-2003 outbreak, i.e. a respiratory illness.

So why did WHO not conclude much earlier that this coronavirus, which causes Covid-19, was of the SARS "family", from which the 2002 virus came from?

fritzelly · 28-06-2020 08:31PM

political analyst wrote: »

It was blindingly obvious to the world that the first Covid cases to become public knowledge had symptoms similar to those of the 2002-2003 outbreak, i.e. a respiratory illness.

So why did WHO not conclude much earlier that this coronavirus, which causes Covid-19, was of the SARS "family", from which the 2002 virus came from?

Because...China...

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 08:35PM

HSE operations update released.

As of 18:30 there were 11 patients covid confirmed in ICU, no change on yesterday. 7 on ventilators, down 1 on yesterday. No deaths reported.

As of 8pm, 24 in general hosptial beds with confirmed covid. Up from 19 yesterday. Although this is no surprise given the current low numbers and the frequent non movement in terms of people being released from hosptial over the weekend.

The increase of 5 is accounted for with 1 in the mater, 1 in Tallaght, 2 in Limerick and 1 in Sligo.

In Dublin St Vincents, St James's and Connolly, are covid free along with the children's hospitals Temple Street and Crumlin

igCorcaigh · 28-06-2020 08:39PM

political analyst wrote: »

It was blindingly obvious to the world that the first Covid cases to become public knowledge had symptoms similar to those of the 2002-2003 outbreak, i.e. a respiratory illness.

So why did WHO not conclude much earlier that this coronavirus, which causes Covid-19, was of the SARS "family", from which the 2002 virus came from?

Because they can't say that until the viral genome is sequenced and analysed?

Respiratory symptoms can be a result of many things.

MickeyLeari · 28-06-2020 08:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE operations update released.

As of 18:30 there were 11 patients covid confirmed in ICU, no change on yesterday. 7 on ventilators, down 1 on yesterday. No deaths reported.

As of 8pm, 24 in general hosptial beds with confirmed covid. Up from 19 yesterday. Although this is no surprise given the current low numbers and the frequent non movement in terms of people being released from hosptial over the weekend.

The increase of 5 is accounted for with 1 in the mater, 1 in Tallaght, 2 in Limerick and 1 in Sligo.

In Dublin St Vincents St James's and Connolly, are covid free along with the children's hospitals Temple Street and Crumlin

Thanks. I have not seen the numbers for a few days, and based on what was in the media and interviews with NPHET I was afraid the second wave was here.

iguana · 28-06-2020 08:43PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Why aren’t restaurants and pubs & cinemas reopening? There is NOTHING to do with a family of young children if the weather is bad here for a holiday currently.

Cinemas are reopening from next week, indoor play areas are reopening next week, roller rinks are reopening next week, etc. It's just taking businesses time to adapt as they went from planning for August 10th, to July 20th, to July 1st. They have to work out the changes they need to make and the timescale was accelerated, so it will take some longer than others to be ready.

Cork Boy 53 · 28-06-2020 08:44PM

blade1 wrote: »

If it does it'll probably be the first time ever for a league match

I assume he means extended injury time that goes beyond 105 mins in total which is just about what most matches have done since the PL restart or else they could be (and strictly following the rules should be) thrown out on their asses when the time limit is reached.

Lyle · 28-06-2020 08:46PM

Is there any sign of the county data anywhere for yesterday and today? There was no mention of them stopping the daily release of that info, that I've seen anyway..? it's been handy to keep on top of how the home county is doing and I was getting a nice little dopamine release when you see a few days of +0. Pathetic but sher I'll take whatever good feelings I can get!

ACitizenErased · 28-06-2020 08:47PM

Lyle wrote: »

Is there any sign of the county data anywhere for yesterday and today? There was no mention of them stopping the daily release of that info, that I've seen anyway..? it's been handy to keep on top of how the home county is doing and I was getting a nice little dopamine release when you see a few days of +0. Pathetic but sher I'll take whatever good feelings I can get!

None at all. I reckon there's issues at the HPSC - given the increase in cases yesterday and no county data since Friday. Not even the dashboard has been updated.

Rob A. Bank · 28-06-2020 08:57PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Has anyone read the article where they analysis three outbreaks in different indoor settings?

Essential reading and really well presented, with interactive visuals to demonstrate how it spread in a restaurant, bus and open-plan office and what were key factors of spread.

'An analysis of three Covid-19 outbreaks: how they happened and how they can be avoided'

https://english.elpais.com/spanish_news/2020-06-17/an-analysis-of-three-covid-19-outbreaks-how-they-happened-and-how-they-can-be-avoided.html

A brilliant beautifully illustrated article. Thank you for posting it.

It is no longer tenable for the 'powers that be' to cling to the notions that Covid-19 is only droplet spread and that asymptomatic (or pre-symptomatic) spread is not a significant driving force for the pandemic in superspreading events like those illustrated.

Recycled TB prevention advice based on ideas from November 1934 is just not good enough anymore.

The open borders, anti mandatory masks and temperature screening stance, originally adopted by the CMO, must be completely reversed... otherwise I fear we are headed for a re-run of the dark days of March and April.

Renjit · 28-06-2020 09:00PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I thought as much

Well i have family abroad that’s the main reason i travel and it’s the longest i haven’t seen them in 15 years. I’ll give it a miss for the rest of this year but vaccine or not i will be chancing next year without a doubt while taking the obvious precautions as much as i can.

That's still better. Let the situation stabilize. It is too early to comment.

is_that_so · 28-06-2020 09:02PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The €900 refers to last year. I will be travelling to Naples in August if non travel advice is lifted. Is contracting Covid guaranteed?

One free dose with every holiday!

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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