Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Lundstram · 28-06-2020 05:58PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Imagine having to queue. Jesus, the trauma.

Imagine businesses turning away income because no one wants to stand in the pisses of rain waiting to get in.

People like you don't realise the massive affect this is having and will have on the economy down the line.

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:00PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Stay at home if you're vulnerable to it, let the rest of us live our lives normally.

Maybe if you don't want to live in a society that has taken this line then you should consider moving country? I am in the section of society that isn't vulnerable but please don't lump me in with your 'us' like we are together in what we believe.

28-06-2020 06:00PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Today's Numbers: 1 death, 3 cases.

Went for chipper last night, queue of about 5 people outside - fcuk that.

Same in Tesco - fcuk that.

Aldi was normal - grand.

Killing our economy slowly but surely all because of a few cases of Covid19 everyday. Utter madness that will affect us for decades to come.

Stay at home if you're vulnerable to it, let the rest of us live our lives normally.

Lock the over 70’s away so you dont have to queue for chips.

Do people believe there are no similar restrictions elsewhere by the way?

Penfailed · 28-06-2020 06:02PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Imagine businesses turning away income because no one wants to stand in the pisses of rain waiting to get in.

People like you don't realise the massive affect this is having and will have on the economy down the line.

I stood in the rain yesterday evening waiting for the chippy. I wasn't alone. We're the people helping the economy.

28-06-2020 06:03PM

skelly22 wrote: »

As I suspect is probably the case with most arguing for continued restrictions. Completely insulated from any economic hit. Must be a nice cosy position to be in but it's far from the reality for many others.

Brilliant selective quoting there

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:04PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I stood in the rain yesterday evening waiting for the chippy. I wasn't alone. We're the people helping the economy.

Tough times for you. Your country thanks you for your service to us all.

Penfailed · 28-06-2020 06:05PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Tough times for you. Your country thanks you for your service to us all.

It wasn't tough. That's the point. Jesus, people bleating about having to stand in a queue. Perspective required.

is_that_so · 28-06-2020 06:05PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I stood in the rain yesterday evening waiting for the chippy. I wasn't alone. We're the people helping the economy.

I just turned on the oven at home! Warmer and drier!

Onesea · 28-06-2020 06:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lock the over 70’s away so you dont have to queue for chips.

Do people believe there are no similar restrictions elsewhere by the way?

He didn't say that.Im very surprised more people haven't coped on to how delicate the workings of an economy is.
From the outside looking in Ireland is looking like a strange place. People attitudes are equally weird. Good luck, your all gonna need it.

28-06-2020 06:21PM

Onesea wrote: »

He didn't say that.Im very surprised more people haven't coped on to how delicate the workings of an economy is.
From the outside looking in Ireland is looking like a strange place. People attitudes are equally weird. Good luck, your all gonna need it.

You believe there are no restrictions anywhere else?

Penfailed · 28-06-2020 06:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You believe there are no restrictions anywhere else?

There are currently parts of Spain in which you must wear a mask in public places. You can be fined €100 for not doing so.

Onesea · 28-06-2020 06:26PM

Why is there social distancing still in place?

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:28PM

Onesea wrote: »

Why is there social distancing still in place?

Are you taking the piss?

28-06-2020 06:30PM

Penfailed wrote: »

There are currently parts of Spain in which you must wear a mask in public places. You can be fined €100 for not doing so.

Social distancing in bars and restaurants also. And in Spanish cities the size of the bars would be significantly smaller than here. Hotels all over the country remain closed as there are few tourists. Portugal still have their border with Spain closed. But everything is rosy elsewhere

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Social distancing in bars and restaurants also. And in Spanish cities the size of the bars would be significantly smaller than here. Hotels all over the country remain closed as there are few tourists. Portugal still have their border with Spain closed. But everything is rosy elsewhere

This is it. People seem to have this idea that other countries have just gone back to normal and are ignoring the virus exists. America is the only Country doing that since the lockdown and we know how that is currently working out for them.

Hannibal36 · 28-06-2020 06:33PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Imagine businesses turning away income because no one wants to stand in the pisses of rain waiting to get in.

People like you don't realise the massive affect this is having and will have on the economy down the line.

They don't care about the economy the ones in here cheering it on are part of the clique ripping the rest of us off.

prunudo · 28-06-2020 06:36PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

This is such a stupid line of thinking. The kind of awful rhetoric thrown around by people who want to sound motivational but contributes nothing of value.

Believing you can fly and jumping off a cliff doesn't make you are a can person. We have real not imaginary hurdles to going about daily life and ignoring them doesn't mean they go away.

You sound like Trump.

I'll put you in the can't column so.
Its not about ignoring hurdles, its about being proactive and working with the rules we have. We are where we are and being negative and contuinely saying how things are terrible won't get us either through this or close to how it was before.

Micky 32 · 28-06-2020 06:44PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I stood in the rain yesterday evening waiting for the chippy. I wasn't alone. We're the people helping the economy.

If I’m starving I’ll queue up in the rain for decent fish and chips no bother

GocRh · 28-06-2020 06:45PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

This is it. People seem to have this idea that other countries have just gone back to normal and are ignoring the virus exists. America is the only Country doing that since the lockdown and we know how that is currently working out for them.

If anything Ireland will probably, at least on the surface, look more 'normal' as masks as not mandatory here. Masks are the norm basically everywhere else in Europe.

With that being said, most European countries are now well into the 'new normal' (masks, queues, tracing etc). We're only just starting as we were the last to fully re-open the country in the EU.

28-06-2020 06:46PM

Hannibal36 wrote: »

They don't care about the economy the ones in here cheering it on are part of the clique ripping the rest of us off.

Some people in here understood the economic impact was unavoidable, and steps were needed to avoid the worst case human impact.

In March I expected the economy to be hit far harder than it has been, which has still been massive. The economy will also bounce back. Every week thousands are coming off COVID payments and this will continue. Sectors of the economy are going strong. New opportunities are opening up, businesses are finding new ways. It will be a long road, but the fundamentals of the Irish economy are sound.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2020 06:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Social distancing in bars and restaurants also. And in Spanish cities the size of the bars would be significantly smaller than here. Hotels all over the country remain closed as there are few tourists. Portugal still have their border with Spain closed. But everything is rosy elsewhere

Just on the border closure its closed for the stupidest of reasons, they have a opening ceremony planned with state dignitaries and I'm fairly sure the Royal families on 1st July, I kid you not, they couldn't move it so the border is still closed.

Was planned in advance of the speeding up of reopening borders

WhiteMemento9 · 28-06-2020 06:56PM

prunudo wrote: »

I'll put you in the can't column so.
Its not about ignoring hurdles, its about being proactive and working with the rules we have. We are where we are and being negative and contuinely saying how things are terrible won't get us either through this or close to how it was before.

You can certainly put me in the can't column if that means recognizing this has been extremely hard for everyone up until this point and we still face massive hurdles in any road to something that resembles normality. We are in a tough spot and expressing that things are bad is just being truthful about the situation. That doesn't make people negative but just realists in that they see this is a terrible situation. It doesn't mean while seeing that truth we can't move forward with trying to make things better but certain things just aren't possible until we find a vaccine.

Hannibal36 · 28-06-2020 07:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Some people in here understood the economic impact was unavoidable, and steps were needed to avoid the worst case human impact.

In March I expected the economy to be hit far harder than it has been, which has still been massive. The economy will also bounce back. Every week thousands are coming off COVID payments and this will continue. Sectors of the economy are going strong. New opportunities are opening up, businesses are finding new ways. It will be a long road, but the fundamentals of the Irish economy are sound.

It absolutely was avoidable,we were one of the best positioned countries an island with only one land border.Belarus no lockdown 300 deaths,Sweden no lockdown 5k deaths with a population more than double ours so basically the same death rate,give or take a couple hundred.

It's clearly not a very lethal virus and certainly not worth crashing our economy off a cliff for to possibly save a literal handful of elderly who were probably going to die relatively soon anyway,coupled with the lives lost the livelihoods destroyed because of the lockdown and there is no logical argument to make for this anymore.

The world is literally upside down right now,up is down and down is up.It seems if people just keep saying words enough times on the internet and drill them into people no matter how illogical it is people just buy it.Covid 19,Virus,Pandemic just keep saying it no matter about all the evidence all around you and people just eat it up.The world over has had all different types of lockdowns and non lockdowns and yet it seems nobody no matter what they done had any kind of pandemic numbers how this is still being sold is beyond me.

Hannibal36 · 28-06-2020 07:16PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

You can certainly put me in the can't column if that means recognizing this has been extremely hard for everyone up until this point and we still face massive hurdles in any road to something that resembles normality. We are in a tough spot and expressing that things are bad is just being truthful about the situation. That doesn't make people negative but just realists in that they see this is a terrible situation. It doesn't mean while seeing that truth we can't move forward with trying to make things better but certain things just aren't possible until we find a vaccine.

This is the kind of madness that is in people,i have to put it down to cabin fever at this point.Why do we need a vaccine? Nobody is dying bar the sick and elderly what the hell do we need a vaccine for?There is countries that done nothing Belarus for example and the virus was there the same time it was here and practically nobody died.

Why is a vaccine needed when there is clear model that shows it isn't a danger to healthy people no matter whether you mitigate or not.

You cannot use the lockdown as a reason for saving lives when there is models showing no lockdown and no rampant deaths.

Ginger n Lemon · 28-06-2020 07:18PM

Forgot to say earlier, Easons on o connell st closed both on a Saturday 2 weeks ago and today 1 o clock.

Are they reopening at all or is that store closed?

iamwhoiam · 28-06-2020 07:20PM

Hannibal36 wrote: »

This is the kind of madness that is in people,i have to put it down to cabin fever at this point.Why do we need a vaccine? Nobody is dying bar the sick and elderly what the hell do we need a vaccine for?There is countries that done nothing Belarus for example and the virus was there the same time it was here and practically nobody died.

Why is a vaccine needed when there is clear model that shows it isn't a danger to healthy people no matter whether you mitigate or not.

You cannot use the lockdown as a reason for saving lives when there is models showing no lockdown and no rampant deaths.

Just maybe the sick and elderly would like to live longer and welcome a vaccine to enable this .

beggars_bush · 28-06-2020 07:22PM

Hannibal36 wrote: »

It absolutely was avoidable,we were one of the best positioned countries an island with only one land border.Belarus no lockdown 300 deaths,Sweden no lockdown 5k deaths with a population more than double ours so basically the same death rate,give or take a couple hundred.

It's clearly not a very lethal virus and certainly not worth crashing our economy off a cliff for to possibly save a literal handful of elderly who were probably going to die relatively soon anyway,coupled with the lives lost the livelihoods destroyed because of the lockdown and there is no logical argument to make for this anymore.

The world is literally upside down right now,up is down and down is up.It seems if people just keep saying words enough times on the internet and drill them into people no matter how illogical it is people just buy it.Covid 19,Virus,Pandemic just keep saying it no matter about all the evidence all around you and people just eat it up.The world over has had all different types of lockdowns and non lockdowns and yet it seems nobody no matter what they done had any kind of pandemic numbers how this is still being sold is beyond me.

We don't actually know the real death rate in any country from covid

Hannibal36 · 28-06-2020 07:25PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Just maybe the sick and elderly would like to live longer and welcome a vaccine to enable this .

I would like to live longer,tough that is life some of us get sick and die some of us don't,its not my responsibility to prolong the life of every sick person.

Can someone give back some of the time my father is going to lose because of the lockdown he is in 80s and when this started he was a very healthy active man,lockdown has basically ended his life,he is a shell of himself been cocooned for months nowhere to go and nothing to do.

iamwhoiam · 28-06-2020 07:27PM

Hannibal36 wrote: »

I would like to live longer,tough that is life some of get sick and die some of us don't,its not my responsibility to prolong the life of every sick person.
do.

Charming .

Ginger n Lemon · 28-06-2020 07:27PM

3 new cases today. 60%+ of pubs shut for another 3 weeks. What the actual f

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings