Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Has been called out multiple times in the past. MULTIPLE times.

When faced with a travel abroad question, OP posted "I travel abroad once every 3 to 4 years so restrictions arent really affecting me" :rolleyes:

I wasn't faced with a travel abroad question. I was making a contribution. You've also made up that quote. That's not what I said. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make either way.
I haven't been called out multiple times unless you've got facts to back that up?

Okay - so. 2 weeks since my last city centre trip, and it looks even worse......

1 - still no music in shopping centres. Is music contributing to covid spread? As is - with 25-40% of shops still closed in Jervis and Ilac (which is VERY VERY worrying) its genuinely like walking in a morgue.

2 - Tons of places on Henry st closed permanently. Every 4th shop closed permanently. Every 3rd shop still seems to be in temporary closure.

3 - poor poor shop assistants, standing there in empty shops wearing those masks, looking very unapproachable (actually looking terrified). Mask take up was less than 1 % on today's observations...

4 - one particular place, perfume shop in Ilac, looked absolutely miserable - 2 customers in the shop allowed. 2. at a time. :mad::mad::mad:

5 - queues queues queues, and yet again get into the shop and people are climbing on top of each other. Its just laughable how stupid the whole thing is.

In general the whole shopping experience is non existent, as geniuses posting here praising takeaways what good is your takeaway in city centre during regular shopping hours, when people get hungry for lunch? Go look for a bench full of bird crap to sit on? in this weather? Or eat while you walk? All in all last 2 weeks, 3 weeks even since 8th of June I wouldnt be surprised if shops barely made 20-30% of pre covid sales.

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Okay - so. 2 weeks since my last city centre trip, and it looks even worse......

1 - still no music in shopping centres. Is music contributing to covid spread? As is - with 25-40% of shops still closed in Jervis and Ilac (which is VERY VERY worrying) its genuinely like walking in a morgue.

2 - Tons of places on Henry st closed permanently. Every 4th shop closed permanently. Every 3rd shop still seems to be in temporary closure.

3 - poor poor shop assistants, standing there in empty shops wearing those masks, looking very unapproachable (actually looking terrified). Mask take up was less than 1 % on today's observations...

4 - one particular place, perfume shop in Ilac, looked absolutely miserable - 2 customers in the shop allowed. 2. at a time. :mad::mad::mad:

5 - queues queues queues, and yet again get into the shop and people are climbing on top of each other. Its just laughable how stupid the whole thing is.

In general the whole shopping experience is non existent, as geniuses posting here praising takeaways what good is your takeaway in city centre during regular shopping hours, when people get hungry for lunch? Go look for a bench full of bird crap to sit on? in this weather? Or eat while you walk? All in all last 2 weeks, 3 weeks even since 8th of June I wouldnt be surprised if shops barely made 20-30% of pre covid sales.

Wait, so...

No muzak in shopping centres? HALLELUJAH! As someone who used to work in one, thank Christ for that! I really hope we retain that - at least get us one xmas without the centre manager's "Christmas Hits Vol 3" CD on loop!

I'm puzzled though - the shops are like wastelands with some only letting in two at a time - but people are climbing over each other? Is it just the two people in the perfume shop dry humping each other, or what?

charlie14 wrote: »

You really should at least attempt to read posts before replying with gibberish attempting to evade uncomfortable truths.
Belgium attributed practically all deaths during this period toCovid-19. Sweden only attribute Covid-19 deaths to those that tested positive before passing.


The matter your posts is so clearly scrambling to avoid.


You were attempting to compare Belgium to Sweden. A pears and apples comparison. If we are going to compare Sweden to others then only fair that it is on a like for like basis, geographically,socially and culturally.
Sweden`s Nordic neighbouring countries of Norway, Denmark and Finland fit all those criteria.


Norway, Denmark and Finland all used lockdown and have combined deaths from Covid-19 of 1,172.
Sweden who did not use lockdown have 5,280 deaths from Covid-19.
Norway, Denmark and Finland have a combined population of 16 million. Sweden`s population is 10 million.

To save you doing the maths, Sweden`s deaths are 7 times greater than their three Nordic neighbours who used lockdown.

So number of worldwide covid deaths is overstated due to Belgium counting all deaths in period of 3 months as covid - yes or no?

You dont need to save me the maths, 0.05% of Swedish population died with covid.

0.006% of worlds population died with covid.

Penfailed wrote: »

I wasn't faced with a travel abroad question. I was making a contribution. You've also made up that quote. That's not what I said. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make either way.
I haven't been called out multiple times unless you've got facts to back that up?

No response? No surprise. Didn't respond to the previous question I posed either.

Makes stuff up. Gets pulled up on it. Resorts to obfuscation, swerving and changing the goalposts...or doesn't respond. Plus ça change.

Dante7 wrote: »

The quarantine advisory will be lifted on the 9th, but I'd have no problem isolating if needed. People need to exercise a little bit of critical thinking and risk analysis rather than just trying to impose their opinion on others. I was wearing a mask when shopping in March and had people trying to lecture me about how masks were useless. Some of the same people are now wearing masks while outdoors and saying I shouldn't be travelling abroad. If they keep up the irrational scaremongering and the prices stay low, I might get to grab another bargain break to a virus free zone in late August.

That’s brilliant, I didn’t think travel restrictions were being lifted on the 9th ! Enjoy your holiday !

hmmm wrote: »

The same people who were telling us how important it was to reopen everything for the sake of the economy, are now ****eing all over Irish hospitality businesses.

Was this really all for the sake of a pint in a bar in Spain?

They were never motivated by concern for the economy, at least not above self interest. It's all an act, tragically lacking in any awareness, honesty or accountability.

In other words, they're absolutely full of it, making use of a handy cause for that veneer of respspectabilty for their insincere arguments.

The proof is in how quickly the Irish hospitality industry, which they all were so, so, supposedly concerned about is being treated as the last possible option they'd even consider spending their money in. Pro-economic brigade my arse. Me-Feiners the entire lot of them

NotMOL wrote: »

There is queues because shops are only letting in a few at a time

Was in one garden centre yesterday and their layout actually contributed to it being hard to adhere to social distancing. They had a one way system and had alternative routes blocked off. Not great if you're trying to give browsing elderly customers a wide berth.
Some shops have been good but others aren't helping their causes when it comes to creating happy shopping experience.

Lundstram wrote: »

Today's Numbers: 1 death, 3 cases.

Went for chipper last night, queue of about 5 people outside - fcuk that.

Same in Tesco - fcuk that.

Aldi was normal - grand.

Killing our economy slowly but surely all because of a few cases of Covid19 everyday. Utter madness that will affect us for decades to come.

Stay at home if you're vulnerable to it, let the rest of us live our lives normally.

Imagine having to queue. Jesus, the trauma.

Lundstram wrote: »

Today's Numbers: 1 death, 3 cases.

Went for chipper last night, queue of about 5 people outside - fcuk that.

Same in Tesco - fcuk that.

Aldi was normal - grand.

Killing our economy slowly but surely all because of a few cases of Covid19 everyday. Utter madness that will affect us for decades to come.

Stay at home if you're vulnerable to it, let the rest of us live our lives normally.

Are you giving out about the government ruining the economy while not queueing for chips cos there were 5 people in front of you? Sure most chippers would have 2 or 3 people in the queue pre Covid.