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Fireside Solicitor · 19-06-2020 06:46PM

wrangler wrote: »

They wouldn't stay in the country if it was any different....... where would you be then.
Same with price legislation , survival of the fittest is the way it has to be , other wise it'd be like the Civil service..... just because it's surviving doesn't mean it'd work in the real world

Survival of the fittest in beef production terms will mean 90% of beef farmers in Ireland are gone.

kk.man · 19-06-2020 10:22PM

Jjameson wrote: »

I invite you to look up Kavanagh meats Instagram page. Premium markets in the uk want marbled grass fed Angus Hereford Galloway shorthorn ect

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBoAt74nf08/?igshid=1wuhd2omoi1pj

Those carcasses have a fair bit of fat on them.

kk.man · 19-06-2020 11:23PM

Jjameson wrote: »

Click on the buyers that comment ect.

I'm not on twitter but I presume those to be native breeds.

kk.man · 20-06-2020 12:34AM

Jjameson wrote: »

Not twitter, instagram, but yes britisle breeds that lay down fat and marble the beef suit the British palate. Fat and marbling should not be getting penalised.

I'm not a bad judge of a carcass.

Good loser · 20-06-2020 12:51PM

Jjameson wrote: »

There’s no doubt we are price takers at farm level but the the correlation between weekly kill, currency fluctuation and market demand does not directly link to beef price, . How can every processor have identical processing costs and how is there none pushing for increasing output, improving efficiencies and ousting their competitors? Week on week perfect uniformity in pricing for the vast majority of cattle which are coming from hobby sized farmers.

A cartel if you will...

8 families control a billion euro industry.

We aren’t on our own with this situation but this is interesting
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-15/u-s-meat-giants-face-biggest-attack-in-century-from-trump-probe?fbclid=IwAR23rlf3dQccaQ94LpSgvyYN4Z5pOOuwvHm-uMIgMjSvNxPbvZ7j6BEhxgI

You might also have seen in the IFJ this week where Dawn bought 49% of the second largest beef factory in France for €5 million in 2015.

This company had a turnover of €922m and operating losses of almost €18m - probably in 2017.

memorystick · 20-06-2020 04:44PM

After getting offered €2 per kg live for AA bullocks. Not massive cattle and more dairy type than beef. They’re getting near fit to kill. Is that a good price?

Fireside Solicitor · 20-06-2020 04:51PM

memorystick wrote: »

After getting offered €2 per kg live for AA bullocks. Not massive cattle and more dairy type than beef. They’re getting near fit to kill. Is that a good price?

What’s your factory quoting?

memorystick · 20-06-2020 05:16PM

Fireside Solicitor wrote: »

What’s your factory quoting?

I’ve a mixed bag. The agent wouldn’t as they’re not all fit. These are getting meal since the first week of May.

Bass Reeves · 20-06-2020 05:55PM

memorystick wrote: »

After getting offered €2 per kg live for AA bullocks. Not massive cattle and more dairy type than beef. They’re getting near fit to kill. Is that a good price?

Where are they being weighted. An adult animal will make wee or dung of 30-40kgs in a day...... Or on a truck journey. After doing that there KO will be 55%. If that happens its 3.63/kg DW.

memorystick · 20-06-2020 06:05PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Where are they being weighted. An adult animal will make wee or dung of 30-40kgs in a day...... Or on a truck journey. After doing that there KO will be 55%. If that happens its 3.63/kg DW.

They’d be on weight bridge in about 50 minutes from loading.

Bass Reeves · 20-06-2020 07:43PM

memorystick wrote: »

They’d be on weight bridge in about 50 minutes from loading.

They lose most of it in that first 30-40 minutes of s journey. Having said that if you need to sell and cannot carry to finish it's a good price. But Zi would not be afraid to hold and fully finish cattle at present

memorystick · 20-06-2020 08:54PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

They lose most of it in that first 30-40 minutes of s journey. Having said that if you need to sell and cannot carry to finish it's a good price. But Zi would not be afraid to hold and fully finish cattle at present

I lock them in every morning for an hour so they can eat as much meal as they can. In about 2 weeks they’ll be up to €150 per head cost on meal. I think after 2 months they should be as good as they’re going to be. Sick to the hole of it.

FarmerDougal · 20-06-2020 09:22PM

memorystick wrote: »

I lock them in every morning for an hour so they can eat as much meal as they can. In about 2 weeks they’ll be up to €150 per head cost on meal. I think after 2 months they should be as good as they’re going to be. Sick to the hole of it.

At 250/t that's 7kg/day there eating for 12 weeks, had u no grass? Feed 800kg cattle here for 6 weeks at 5kg/head and they doing good

memorystick · 20-06-2020 09:50PM

FarmerDougal wrote: »

At 250/t that's 7kg/day there eating for 12 weeks, had u no grass? Feed 800kg cattle here for 6 weeks at 5kg/head and they doing good

Grass got tight very quick. They’re big aul raw Fr with a dozen AA and HRx. The meal is a better buy than manure this year.

Fireside Solicitor · 21-06-2020 09:42PM

memorystick wrote: »

I’ve a mixed bag. The agent wouldn’t as they’re not all fit. These are getting meal since the first week of May.

I’d let them off at that if you were here in the north east. A fair price and the weather is very dry around still with grass burnt in patches.

Bass Reeves · 21-06-2020 10:23PM

memorystick wrote: »

Grass got tight very quick. They’re big aul raw Fr with a dozen AA and HRx. The meal is a better buy than manure this year.

AA's have an awful tendancy to grow at the same rate whether on ration, grass or silage. As well throwing nut or ration into cattle at grass unless there is a lot of fiber is a waste. They will just scutter it out. Did you dose them before you started.
I betting the FR and Hex have done better than the AA's

memorystick · 21-06-2020 10:34PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

AA's have an awful tendancy to grow at the same rate whether on ration, grass or silage. As well throwing nut or ration into cattle at grass unless there is a lot of fiber is a waste. They will just scutter it out. Did you dose them before you started.
I betting the FR and Hex have done better than the AA's

The Fr are horsing on the weight. Their sacs don’t look fat but they’re getting fair firm. A couple of whorés in it. These dairy stock would test a lad.

Bass Reeves · 21-06-2020 11:07PM

memorystick wrote: »

The Fr are horsing on the weight. Their sacs don’t look fat but they’re getting fair firm. A couple of whorés in it. These dairy stock would test a lad.

It nothing to do with dairy stick. The big raw Fr is pure dairy stick. It's the AA breeding. I had 8 suckler bred ones last autumn, on good grass and nuts. They just trundled along in with them was a single dairy cross one he outweigh them by 45 kgs DW across the average and a HE heifer was only 10-15 kgs behind them.

I have a belted Galloway in a finishing bunch at present he doing no better than when on silage inside in the shed during the winter but he muching enough at the trough

Neddyusa · 21-06-2020 11:59PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It nothing to do with dairy stick. The big raw Fr is pure dairy stick. It's the AA breeding. I had 8 suckler bred ones last autumn, on good grass and nuts. They just trundled along in with them was a single dairy cross one he outweigh them by 45 kgs DW across the average and a HE heifer was only 10-15 kgs behind them.

I have a belted Galloway in a finishing bunch at present he doing no better than when on silage inside in the shed during the winter but he muching enough at the trough

Moral of the story....at current beef price it doesn't pay to feed high levels of meal to anything other than a high converting continental.

Bass Reeves · 22-06-2020 12:11AM

Neddyusa wrote: »

Moral of the story....at current beef price it doesn't pay to feed high levels of meal to anything

Corrected that for you

CloughCasey1 · 22-06-2020 12:21AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Corrected that for you

I had 2 aax dairy kill 422kg o= 3+ & 413kg R- 3= a few weeks back. Got a grain of meal last 12 weeks. Only cost 530 last March 12 months as yearlings.

Bass Reeves · 22-06-2020 12:33AM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I had 2 aax dairy kill 422kg o= 3+ & 413kg R- 3= a few weeks back. Got a grain of meal last 12 weeks. Only cost 530 last March 12 months as yearlings.

Yes you will get good ones. But in general there is a lot of very low weight gain AA around. I generally end up buying cattle in bunches the difference between the best and worst in a bunch is often over 200 euro and it usually the last one out that leaves the least

In general you will find more low weight gain AA's in a mart than you will see good ones.

Dickie10 · 23-06-2020 04:27PM

12 weeks of meal? thats 3 months thats nearly winter finshing. meal for a month maybe max

Duke92 · 23-06-2020 07:30PM

Neddyusa wrote: »

Moral of the story....at current beef price it doesn't pay to feed high levels of meal to anything other than a high converting continental.

I think at current beef prices you can’t afford not to feed meal at least a minimum of 6 weeks before you kill them

CloughCasey1 · 23-06-2020 08:07PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

12 weeks of meal? thats 3 months thats nearly winter finshing. meal for a month maybe max

12 weeks of 2kg not 10kg

CloughCasey1 · 23-06-2020 08:08PM

Jjameson wrote: »

No big willy waving needed here we all know your a millionaire!

That is some thrive! Was there a bit of bull left in them?

No, but maybe got lost a while in the rushes before registered.

valtra2 · 24-06-2020 04:35PM

Hi could anyone give me a estimate of the price of a 1000kg bull 9 year old limousine and in good condition. Tia

DukeCaboom · 24-06-2020 06:03PM

valtra2 wrote: »

Hi could anyone give me a estimate of the price of a 1000kg bull 9 year old limousine and in good condition. Tia

Local factory here quoted €2:40 this week for r grade.

valtra2 · 24-06-2020 10:55PM

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Local factory here quoted €2:40 this week for r grade.

So about 1200. Cheers

Bass Reeves · 24-06-2020 11:06PM

valtra2 wrote: »

So about 1200. Cheers

I say a bit more than that. If he's 1000 kgs you expect a mature bull to kill 550-570 kgs. If he grades U will be make extra 1250-1400 euro

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