Second wave

BeeSarah · 22-06-2020 12:29pm #1

How much do we have time before second wave of corona?

jaffa20 · 22-06-2020 12:30pm

10 days :rolleyes:

ACitizenErased · 22-06-2020 12:30pm

Right now

ShyMets · 22-06-2020 12:35pm

BeeSarah wrote: »

How much do we have time before second wave of corona?

You're behind the curve. We actually on the third wave

biko · 22-06-2020 3:45pm

3 and a half hours

is_that_so · 22-06-2020 3:49pm

On the 12th of July it will begin to march!

begbysback · 22-06-2020 3:51pm

BeeSarah wrote: »

How much do we have time before second wave of corona?

Time is but a mere human concept Sarah, we don’t have time, time doesn’t really exist - having said that I’d say the second wave is already here, just that we haven’t noticed it yet, so the answer is now, and now is actually a moment in time, rather than time itself, if time really exists that is.

Widdensushi · 22-06-2020 3:52pm

We will know better after we have the first wave

growleaves · 22-06-2020 3:53pm

The assumption around the second wave is based on covid being seasonal. The weather gets cold in Ireland around the first week of October usually.

touts · 22-06-2020 3:53pm

I predict Michael Martin's first act as Taoiseach on Saturday will be to announce a second wave hasbegun and the Hairdressers will all be remaining closed on Monday.

mloc123 · 22-06-2020 3:54pm

We need a first wave first..

Harry Palmr · 22-06-2020 3:55pm

Until the winter when half the population is coughing and sneezing, most of that will be seasonal colds but some will have Covid 19 and not every will be wearing a mask.

koutoubia · 22-06-2020 3:55pm

I was in Decathlon in Ballymun yesterday.
It was a mess. No form of social distancing, no one way system in place , the security guard on the door was just telling people to keep coming in so the store was pretty full.
If one person in there had covid there will be a spike in numbers.
If thats how a few big shops operate we will be back to square one very quickly.

Class MayDresser · 22-06-2020 3:57pm

Is living in fear addictive or what for some?

In answer to OP, next Wednesday week.

xl500 · 22-06-2020 3:59pm

koutoubia wrote: »

I was in Decathlon in Ballymun yesterday.
It was a mess. No form of social distancing, no one way system in place , the security guard on the door was just telling people to keep coming in so the store was pretty full.
If one person in there had covid there will be a spike in numbers.
If thats how a few big shops operate we will be back to square one very quickly.

Report to HSE

mloc123 · 22-06-2020 4:00pm

koutoubia wrote: »

I was in Decathlon in Ballymun yesterday.
It was a mess. No form of social distancing, no one way system in place , the security guard on the door was just telling people to keep coming in so the store was pretty full.
If one person in there had covid there will be a spike in numbers.
If thats how a few big shops operate we will be back to square one very quickly.

And those 3-4 thousand BLM protesters packed beside each other 3-4 weeks ago shouting and chanting... how did that impact numbers?

begbysback · 22-06-2020 4:01pm

Ailani Uninterested Coupon wrote: »

HSA

IDK

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 22-06-2020 4:02pm

begbysback wrote: »

IDK

Think its the HSA that's responsible, but that might only be for workers etc

touts · 22-06-2020 4:02pm

xl500 wrote: »

Report to HSE

Thank you for your call. You are in a Queue. An inspector should be with you in approximately 53 months.

dashoonage · 22-06-2020 4:03pm

is_that_so wrote: »

On the 12th of July it will begin to march!

This wave will be code named " orange"

touts · 22-06-2020 4:05pm

BeeSarah wrote: »

How much do we have time before second wave of corona?

Based on the panic buying in TK Maxx today lots of people are expecting the apocalypse at any moment.

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-06-2020 4:07pm

t-120days, but in the meantime enjoy any potential midday sunshine, right up untiil end of Sept, to boost Vit D take up, and build storage levels.

Can't help but thinking if this wuflu should suddenly dissapate, the big pharma/vaccine co's won't be happy (stock prices).
Maybe they'll want their potential market penetration to increase, even if it's just regional e.g. S.America or Africa.

1st dalkey dalkey · 22-06-2020 4:14pm

Second waves are usually the result of complacency built up by the apparent success against the first wave.

China and South Korea appear to be having second waves just now.

Germany has also seen a spike in numbers, despite having dealt very well with the first wave.

We seem to have suppressed the first wave now, so looking at the above countries and their experience, we should expect a second wave a month or so after easing of restrictions. With ours easing on 29/6, look to 29/7 for signs of second wave.

Snow Garden · 22-06-2020 4:21pm

100 toilet rolls

An Ri rua · 23-06-2020 1:38pm

growleaves wrote: »

The assumption around the second wave is based on covid being seasonal. The weather gets cold in Ireland around the first week of October usually.

1st decent post after all the trolling. This isn't After Hours.

LuckyLloyd · 23-06-2020 2:04pm

International travel will be up and running again in a significant way throughout Europe within a couple of week, including large volumes of travel to and from Ireland. If it took three months to get to a lockdown type scenario the first time; given the fact the virus is now prevalent in communities across Europe while accepting the offset of better testing and contact tracing regimes - it seems reasonable to think about another three month period until the second wave gets going to a level that threatens healthcare infrastructure. So end of September / start of October in line with the start of flu season seems about right.

Enjoy this period as much as you can.

LiquidZeb · 23-06-2020 2:44pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

International travel will be up and running again in a significant way throughout Europe within a couple of week, including large volumes of travel to and from Ireland. If it took three months to get to a lockdown type scenario the first time; given the fact the virus is now prevalent in communities across Europe while accepting the offset of better testing and contact tracing regimes - it seems reasonable to think about another three month period until the second wave gets going to a level that threatens healthcare infrastructure. So end of September / start of October in line with the start of flu season seems about right.

Enjoy this period as much as you can.

I suppose we'd best smother the kids to spare them the misery while we're at it too will we?

Tokyo · 23-06-2020 3:20pm

jaffa20 wrote: »

10 days :rolleyes:

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Right now

biko wrote: »

3 and a half hours

is_that_so wrote: »

On the 12th of July it will begin to march!

Mod: Are we done with the stupid replies yet?

If people want to discuss the topic, fair game. If not, then...

LuckyLloyd · 23-06-2020 3:50pm

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I suppose we'd best smother the kids to spare them the misery while we're at it too will we?

Whether one finds the prospect of a second wave and associated restrictions to protect health infrastructure “miserable” or not is beside the point. Much of the western world is committed to getting international travel and movement through borders up and running ASAP. With infection remaining present at a community level (even at low levels) in these countries committed to opening their borders and cases continuing to rise globally it leaves a second wave inevitable.

I might wish it was some other way, but the time for wishing was in January.

milli milli · 23-06-2020 5:57pm

mike_ie wrote: »

Mod: Are we done with the stupid replies yet?

If people want to discuss the topic, fair game. If not, then...

Also can you include this in the stupid replies:

We need a first wave first..

Very disrespectful to anyone who’s lost a loved one because of this virus

screamer · 23-06-2020 6:06pm

Winters coming..... but if everyone’s heading off on their holidays to mingle with holidaymakers from other high infection rate countries, it’ll be here by September. In pockets of infection rather than widespread. People won’t stay a meter away in shops the hell they’ll self quarantine for 14 days after travelling.

bettyoleary · 23-06-2020 6:10pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

International travel will be up and running again in a significant way throughout Europe within a couple of week, including large volumes of travel to and from Ireland. If it took three months to get to a lockdown type scenario the first time; given the fact the virus is now prevalent in communities across Europe while accepting the offset of better testing and contact tracing regimes - it seems reasonable to think about another three month period until the second wave gets going to a level that threatens healthcare infrastructure. So end of September / start of October in line with the start of flu season seems about right.

Enjoy this period as much as you can.

Are you all ready to deal with patients bcos Hopefully no one is looking after you

23-06-2020 6:21pm

https://www.thejournal.ie/aviation-taskforce-recommends-easing-restrictions-1-july-5130684-Jun2020/

Lifting quarantine is only asking for trouble. For all the sacrifices we've made as a nation over the past three months, it could be undone within weeks.

bettyoleary · 23-06-2020 6:22pm

screamer wrote: »

Winters coming..... but if everyone’s heading off on their holidays to mingle with holidaymakers from other high infection rate countries, it’ll be here by September. In pockets of infection rather than widespread. People won’t stay a meter away in shops the hell they’ll self quarantine for 14 days after travelling.

If I was a nurse or a Dr I would completely refuse to look after anyone that knowingly put anyone at risk. This would include our govt and every one around the world. The virus hasent gone. It just take as much money as they can before lock down again.

Ill make alot of money being a revisionist historian. Dont ever mention the famine again, Instead mention your greedy landlords who would evict if they wernt stopped and the outrageous rent prices Govt had to stop evictions. Mention your total abuse of foreign workers Mention the abuse teachers are getting bcos they wont put themselves at risk to baby sit kids. Mention Michael Oleary who would fly the virus all over the world if he hadnt been grounded, Mention meat workers and the abusive conditions they are forced to live in. Nurses who are facing another wave and risk of dying for **** wages.

bettyoleary · 23-06-2020 6:23pm

bettyoleary wrote: »

If I was a nurse or a Dr I would completely refuse to look after anyone that knowingly put anyone at risk. This would include our govt and every one around the world. The virus hasent gone. It just take as much money as they can before lock down again.

Ill make alot of money being a revisionist historian. Dont ever mention the famine again, Instead mention your greedy landlords who would evict if they wernt stopped and the outrageous rent prices Govt had to stop evictions. Mention your total abuse of foreign workers Mention the abuse teachers are getting bcos they wont put themselves at risk to baby sit kids. Mention Michael Oleary who would fly the virus all over the world if he hadnt been grounded, Mention meat workers and the abusive conditions they are forced to live in. Nurses who are facing another wave and risk of dying for **** wages.

I could go on bnut whats the point???

Ago1960 · 23-06-2020 6:27pm

Use a condom Sara. There is no drip with a jubilee clip. You will be quite safe.

Emmersonn · 25-06-2020 8:18am

bettyoleary wrote: »

If I was a nurse or a Dr I would completely refuse to look after anyone that knowingly put anyone at risk. This would include our govt and every one around the world. The virus hasent gone. It just take as much money as they can before lock down again.
.

It is just as well that you are not a nurse or a doctor as you would be quite useless in the medical profession. Many diseases are fatal and very contagious. Hopefully when you grow up you can choose a career which has no risk. Maybe become a dolesponger.

CMCXCV · 25-06-2020 9:19am

Well as of today there is around 320 active cases in Ireland. This means with by the time the pubs open back up there should be little to none active cases, giving that it takes 2 weeks to recover and the spread stays slow.

But if the airports open and people flock to Ireland or go on their holidays and don't follow the precautions it could be as soon as July that it will start again.

is_that_so · 25-06-2020 9:25am

CMCXCV wrote: »

Well as of today there is around 320 active cases in Ireland. This means with by the time the pubs open back up there should be little to none active cases, giving that it takes 2 weeks to recover and the spread stays slow.

But if the airports open and people flock to Ireland or go on their holidays and don't follow the precautions it could be as soon as July that it will start again.

There will continue to be cases but it is unlikely to "start" again in the same way. Systems are better placed to deal with it now.

GT89 · 26-06-2020 1:49am

xl500 wrote: »

Report to HSE

Or maybe just take a bit of personal responsibility and don't go in or leave.

JTMan · 26-06-2020 6:08pm

Enjoy the summer ...

Bill Gates says COVID-19 'will be back in big numbers' in October-November when US temperatures turn lower

https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-covid-will-be-back-big-numbers-october-november-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

Deeper Blue · 26-06-2020 6:17pm

JTMan wrote: »

Enjoy the summer ...

Bill Gates says COVID-19 'will be back in big numbers' in October-November when US temperatures turn lower

https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-covid-will-be-back-big-numbers-october-november-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

Ah yes Bill Gates the world renowned epidemiologist

4068ac1elhodqr · 26-06-2020 6:19pm

JTMan wrote: »

Enjoy the summer ...
Bill Gates says COVID-19 'will be back in big numbers' in October-November when US temperatures turn lower

Of course he does, has just a few $bn tied up via investments, nevermind his ego. Actually a very lucrative market indeed (perhaps bigger than Windows), when you look at various patents, partnerships and technology platforms.

Of course it may come back, at similar levels, then again folks are much better prepared, one of my local shops sells hand sanitisers in bulk 5l bags now, and for reasonable money, gloves are about the same price, and the local school has knocked out thousands of face shields since.

froog · 26-06-2020 6:20pm

NDWC wrote: »

Ah yes Bill Gates the world renowned epidemiologist

Bill Gates who has been working with some of the world's top virus experts for many years and has been warning the world about a global pandemic just like this one for many years.

Deeper Blue · 26-06-2020 6:22pm

froog wrote: »

Bill Gates who has been working with some of the world's top virus experts for many years and has been warning the world about a global pandemic just like this one for many years.

Be that as it may, he has no more of a clue about this virus than you or I.

4068ac1elhodqr · 26-06-2020 6:22pm

NDWC wrote: »

Ah yes Bill Gates the world renowned epidemiologist

His Windows Vista still leaves an unpleasent memory, even a top end XPS 17 on XPPro succumbed to heavy viral overload and sluggish performance.

Macs all the way.

4068ac1elhodqr · 26-06-2020 6:25pm

froog wrote: »

Bill Gates who has been working with some of the world's top virus experts for many years and has been warning the world about a global pandemic just like this one for many years.

Pure coincidence, lol

It's not as if he's been working with MIT for a decade now, on a vaccine that wil combine with a secretive digital embodiment scanable marker, thus ending the very concept of privacy.

On top of this, has another (seperate) additional patent that turns your body's kinetic energy into a crypro-currency mining plant and digital wallet. 'Blood money' springs to mind.

Emmersonn · 26-06-2020 6:29pm

Originally Posted by koutoubia View Post
I was in Decathlon in Ballymun yesterday.
It was a mess. No form of social distancing, no one way system in place , the security guard on the door was just telling people to keep coming in so the store was pretty full.
If one person in there had covid there will be a spike in numbers.
If thats how a few big shops operate we will be back to square one very quickly.

If you were that worried about the overcrowding ,why did you just not stay there. Surely you could have walked out.

endacl · 26-06-2020 6:33pm

I’m getting two haircuts next week in case the barbers have to close down again.

27-06-2020 12:24pm

NDWC wrote: »

Be that as it may, he has no more of a clue about this virus than you or I.

Jaysus look up what he's been doing with ebola for the last decade. Look up some of his talks about epidemics. He's been literally warning of exactly this.

Deeper Blue · 27-06-2020 12:40pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jaysus look up what he's been doing with ebola for the last decade. Look up some of his talks about epidemics. He's been literally warning of exactly this.

I'm well aware of what he's done and fair play to him, however this is a novel virus and hence I said he has no more of a clue about THIS virus than you or I.

Second wave

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