Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 22-06-2020 05:12PM

Portugal has announced the reimposistion of some counter measures in Lisbon, including restaurants and cafes to close early and restrictions on gatherings to under 10 people.

Portugal is often over looked in the fact it continues to report low to mid hundred cases per day.

22-06-2020 05:12PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

They try to make it sound globally when a big chunk 50k plus is in one country, Brazil etc

It is a fact that it is accelerating globally. An inconvenient fact for those who want to tell us this ends naturally on its own after 75 days or whatever that Israeli scientist said

seefin · 22-06-2020 05:14PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Passed someone in the shop over the weekend who was coughing into the open. Like what the fcuk is wrong with some people?

Haul them up on it- have to shame people and make it unacceptable. If saw someone driving on wrong side of road, you wouldn't be long beeping at them

ACitizenErased · 22-06-2020 05:15PM

Analysis of cases as of midnight Saturday 20th June - 25,379 (+6)

Healthcare Workers +3
Clusters +33
Cases associated with clusters +77

Age Range Affected
0-4 No Change
5-14 No Change
15-24 No Change
25-34 +1
35-44 +2
45-54 +1
55-64 No Change
65-74 No Change
75-84 No Change
85+ +2

Cases by County
Dublin +4
Laois +1
Wicklow +1

eagle eye · 22-06-2020 05:15PM

ACitizenErased wrote:

Follow up to this: Lancet journal entry from China shows an incredibly low amount of hospitalised asthmatics.

Could that be because they were more careful?

ninebeanrows · 22-06-2020 05:16PM

Holohan needs to be sidelined or our lives will never return to any semblance of normality

Arghus · 22-06-2020 05:16PM

I can't understand how anyone feels like jumping on a plane at this moment.

Jim_Hodge · 22-06-2020 05:17PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

= 6. Yesterday.

Precisely, a bit of context wouldn't go astray.

podgeandrodge · 22-06-2020 05:19PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Not achievable, I was in my local supermarket and there were 4 cyclists in there, speaking French to each other and walking around, I presume they had a camper van somewhere, elimination not possible with open borders

Things are getting bad if they were "walking around" in the supermarket. As for speaking French, some people have no respect for our safety

Eod100 · 22-06-2020 05:21PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Holohan needs to be sidelined or our lives will never return to any semblance of normality

What do you think the easing of restrictions is exactly? The second last one due to happen this day week?

eagle eye · 22-06-2020 05:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote:

Asthmatics take immunosuppresant preventer inhalers. I take a high dosage inhaler daily which contains Fluticasone/salmeterol which reduces inflammation in the lungs - exactly what COVID causes.

I'm an asthmatic and we went into lockdown at the start of March. I know many others with Asthma who shut down pretty early too.
So I'm sure that affected numbers.

ACitizenErased · 22-06-2020 05:25PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm an asthmatic and we went into lockdown at the start of March. I know many others with Asthma who shut down pretty early too.
So I'm sure that affected numbers.

Corticosteroids (exactly what preventer inhalers contain) are now being used to treat COVID. Dexamethasone has been shown to cut deaths by a third.

Clonmel1000 · 22-06-2020 05:26PM

Arghus wrote: »

I can't understand how anyone feels like jumping on a plane at this moment.

Seriously?

Allinall · 22-06-2020 05:28PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Holohan needs to be sidelined or our lives will never return to any semblance of normality

Who would you replace him with
?

Jim_Hodge · 22-06-2020 05:28PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm an asthmatic and we went into lockdown at the start of March. I know many others with Asthma who shut down pretty early too.
So I'm sure that affected numbers.

Of course that's the reason. Any thing else is pure waffle or unsubstantiated hyperbole.

Dante7 · 22-06-2020 05:29PM

Allinall wrote: »

Who would you replace him with
?

Gemma

Eod100 · 22-06-2020 05:30PM

Allinall wrote: »

Who would you replace him with
?

Michael O'Leary :pac:

Jim_Hodge · 22-06-2020 05:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Corticosteroids (exactly what preventer inhalers contain) are now being used to treat COVID. Dexamethasone has been shown to cut deaths by a third.

That's correct: As a treatment but not a reason for the lower number of cases amongst asthmatics. Self quarantining was the key.

ACitizenErased · 22-06-2020 05:31PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's correct: As a treatment but not a reason for the lower number of cases amongst asthmatics. Self quarantining was the key.

The question was about hospitalisations/death, not cases.

lukas8888 · 22-06-2020 05:33PM

Arghus wrote: »

I can't understand how anyone feels like jumping on a plane at this moment.

I for one intend to fly to Malaga and on to Marbella for the month of August,
Flying is in my opinion as safe as walking around a busy shopping centre,you will be compelled to wear face masks,and undergo extra safety precautions.

stephenjmcd · 22-06-2020 05:35PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Ok, let's look at what they actually reported. Our numbers are low but global the number of new cases has never been higher. The report on numbers accelerating was very clear and specific about where that growth is. What exactly did you want them to say?

Theres a difference between breaking it down by country and just coming out with its accelerating.

Most of the 6.1 news this evening has been talking up 2nd waves. Someone from the WHO just after being asked will we have one and when ? Like really come on.

Arghus · 22-06-2020 05:36PM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Seriously?

Yeah. I can understand why people feel like they need a holiday, But going through airports with all the extra hassle, sitting on a plane with all the extra hassle, dealing with all the extra potential hassle of getting in and out of countries, without really knowing the true situation of what is or isn't open in each place or how people are feeling about the whole situation? Doesn't seem to me like it'd be the best craic ever.

ACitizenErased · 22-06-2020 05:36PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Theres a difference between breaking it down by country and just coming out with its accelerating.

Most of the 6.1 news this evening has been talking up 2nd waves. Someone from the WHO just after being asked will we have one and when ? Like really come on.

You're talking to the wall, Jim's gone mad on here last few days.

Jim_Hodge · 22-06-2020 05:37PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The question was about hospitalisations/death, not cases.

Jeez! The hospitalisations are down because the cases are proportionally down because, as vulnerable individuals, they took precautions.

When in your medical studies did you learn otherwise.

Eod100 · 22-06-2020 05:38PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

I for one intend to fly to Malaga and on to Marbella for the month of August,
Flying is in my opinion as safe as walking around a busy shopping centre,you will be compelled to wear face masks,and undergo extra safety precautions.

I guess it goes back to that DATE acronym Varadkar was using.

If it's a full plane so you can't social distance and you're on it for at least 2 hours say I think it would be different from spending say 30 mins in a shopping centre and only passing people by for a few seconds.

That said if you're wearing a face covering and everyone else is and the air is being refreshed hopefully it would minimise risk.

I guess focus now sees to be on personal responsibility so accepting what level of risks people are comfortable with too.

22-06-2020 05:38PM

Arghus wrote: »

Yeah. I can understand why people feel like they need a holiday, But going through airports with all the extra hassle, sitting on a plane with all the extra hassle, dealing with all the extra potential hassle of getting in and out of countries, without really knowing the true situation of what is or isn't open in each place or how people are feeling about the whole situation? Doesn't seem to me like it'd be the best craic ever.

I think it would actually be better craic than being gouged in Ireland. The prices out west are just insane for really poor quality accommodation

ACitizenErased · 22-06-2020 05:39PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Jeez! The hospitalisations are down because the cases are proportionally down because, as vulnerable individuals they took precautions.

When in your medical studies did you learn otherwise.

Are you suggesting that obese, diabetic, older people, people with cardiovascular disease etc who are being hospitalised and dying in massive numbers did not take precautions and asthmatics did? Your logic makes zero sense.

stephenjmcd · 22-06-2020 05:40PM

Arghus wrote: »

I can't understand how anyone feels like jumping on a plane at this moment.

No issue here. Why not ?
If I want to book a holiday I will

Arghus · 22-06-2020 05:41PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

I for one intend to fly to Malaga and on to Marbella for the month of August,
Flying is in my opinion as safe as walking around a busy shopping centre,you will be compelled to wear face masks,and undergo extra safety precautions.

I don't think I would agree with that. By going to an airport you're mingling with a lot of people from here there and everywhere. Currently at the moment in Ireland if you're standing beside someone in a shopping centre the chances of them having Covid are minuscule, they aren't comparable to an airport setting as a potential site of infection . And you might share an aisle of a shop with someone, but you won't have to potentially sit in close proximity to them in a recycled air filled pressurised tube for a few hours. Maybe, that's all cool for you for you can't claim the levels of risk are similar.

22-06-2020 05:45PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm an asthmatic and we went into lockdown at the start of March. I know many others with Asthma who shut down pretty early too.
So I'm sure that affected numbers.

It’s been reported from fairly early in this that asthmatics have not been impacted near as much as was expected, and even that a otherwise healthy asthmatic may have less issues than others, perhaps due to a combination of salbutamol and corticosteroids, along with the face my that as asthmatic, by necessity needs to be more conscious of correct breathing techniques. Of course it was prudent For asthmatics to take extra care, and probably to continue to do until more conclusive data is available

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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