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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #6692
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    blade1 wrote: »
    Yeah most of us would have covid by now only for the good ol' sanitiser.

    Even though that was meant to be a flippant comment you are actually correct. Frequent washing and sanitising of hands has played a hugely significant part in keeping the virus outbreak from being far more widespread than what it would otherwise have been.


  • #6693
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Do you wash your hands after picking up a packet of chicken in the shop? You're only transferring germs from the packet of chicken onto everything else you touch.

    Its all about reducing the risk within practical boundaries. There will always be a residual risk.


  • #6694
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Even though that was meant to be a flippant comment you are actually correct. Frequent washing and sanitising of hands has played a hugely significant part in keeping the virus outbreak from being far more widespread than what it would otherwise have been.

    How many have successfully cleaned covid off their hands using sanitiser?


  • #6695
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    blade1 wrote: »
    How many have successfully cleaned covid off their hands using sanitiser?

    How many would have contracted it in the absence of sanitisers? Are you seriously trying to make a case that washing and sanitising of hands had no effect on reducing the spread of the virus?


  • #6696
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Are you seriously trying to make a case that washing and sanitising of hands had no effect on reducing the spread of the virus?

    I didn't say that.
    Poster I replied to said it had a huge part.
    It may have had a small or huge part how do they know?


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  • #6697
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    blade1 wrote: »
    How many have successfully cleaned covid off their hands using sanitiser?

    I know at least five people who could have.


  • #6698
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    I know at least five people who could have.

    Could?
    Wow.


  • #6699
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    I calculate the number of active cases in Ireland (based on testing) is;

    178

    Source: CMO definition of active cases (14 days from test you are no longer active)
    Source: Worldometer dates of cases announced (slight delay from date of test but sufficient for this exercise).


  • #6700
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,550 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    You can also be knocked down by a car, you don't lock yourself in the house because of it though, how many cases were transmitted that way? If it was that infectious in that form one shop employee would have infected whole towns, one meat factory worker whole counties.

    You can get knocked down by a car. But you don’t walk down the middle of a road because you know that your chances of getting hit by a car will significantly increase.


  • #6701
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    blade1 wrote: »
    Could?
    Wow.



    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-hand-sanitizers-inactivate-novel-coronavirus-study-finds


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  • #6702
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You don't press the pump again after you have dispensed the sanitiser, so whats the issue?

    So you see no issues or risks in someone picking their nose or perhaps sneezing into their hands, and then using the same hand to press a pump for a sanitizer?

    First question I would have is whether the sanitizer had enough alcohol in it to be anyway effective?

    And the context of what I said was I bring my own sanitizer out with me which actually is useful for other germs as one is shopping/out and about without the opportunity to wash hands.


  • #6703
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Is there a new disability causing broken elbows in people?

    I witnessed someone clearing her throat by coughing, without covering her mouth. She didn't look sick thank goodness and I know chances of it being virus is low but that's besides the point. It's claimed people are infectious before showing symptoms and there was a person coughing and probably expelling body fluids/saliva into the open. If we all went around like that being selfish and careless c*nts, the virus would spread like wildfire.


  • #6704
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    blade1 wrote: »
    Could?
    Wow.

    then again they could not have - it was tongue in cheek. I think the point I was making is that it is impossible to answer. It is also impossible to answer how many people may have been infected via corona virus left on surfaces.


  • #6705
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is there a new disability causing broken elbows in people?

    I witnessed someone clearing her throat by coughing, without covering her mouth. She didn't look sick thank goodness and I know chances of it being virus is low but that's besides the point. It's claimed people are infectious before showing symptoms and there was a person coughing and probably expelling body fluids/saliva into the open. If we all went around like that being selfish and careless c*nts, the virus would spread like wildfire.

    Well we will have a new normal. Bad hygienic habits will hopefully be gone and a positive legacy of all this.


  • #6706
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    So you see no issues or risks in someone picking their nose or it could sneezing into their hands, and then using the same hand to press a pump for a sanitizer?
    https://b-static.net/vbulletin/images/editor/menupop.gif
    First question I would have is whether the sanitizer had enough alcohol in it to be anyway effective?

    And the context of what I said was I bring my own sanitizer out with me which actually is useful for other germs as one is shopping/out and about without the opportunity to wash hands.

    You cannot control what other people do, only yourself, so if you judge that to reduce risk to an appropriate level you need to carry your own sanitiser, off with you. Anything you touch however could have been touched by someone with poor hygiene, so we have to practical also. Use of sanitiser has been demonstrated to be effective. Also adhering to good hygiene yourself through regular hand washing will minimize risk. You can never eliminate risk however and life must go on.


  • #6707
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is there a new disability causing broken elbows in people?

    I witnessed someone clearing her throat by coughing, without covering her mouth. She didn't look sick thank goodness and I know chances of it being virus is low but that's besides the point. It's claimed people are infectious before showing symptoms and there was a person coughing and probably expelling body fluids/saliva into the open. If we all went around like that being selfish and careless c*nts, the virus would spread like wildfire.

    Not new at all. It`s called "I don`t give a fcuk about anyone else but myself itis".:rolleyes:


  • #6708
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    They had 17 new cases yesterday, not a second wave.

    Just isolated pockets.

    Per RTE News today
    Health authorities in South Korea have said for the first time that it is in the midst of a "second wave" of novel coronavirus infections stemming from a holiday in May, as new cases hovered in the low double digits.

    The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) had previously said South Korea's first wave had never really ended.

    However today, KCDC director Jeong Eun-kyeong said it had become clear that a holiday weekend in early May marked the beginning of a new wave of infections that have been focused largely in the greater Seoul area, which had previously seen few cases.


  • #6709
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    So you see no issues or risks in someone picking their nose or perhaps sneezing into their hands, and then using the same hand to press a pump for a sanitizer?

    First question I would have is whether the sanitizer had enough alcohol in it to be anyway effective?

    And the context of what I said was I bring my own sanitizer out with me which actually is useful for other germs as one is shopping/out and about without the opportunity to wash hands.

    And do you sanitise after touching each item in the supermarket? Because anybody in the shop could have sneezed into their hands without you seeing them.


  • #6710
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,048 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    then again they could not have - it was tongue in cheek. I think the point I was making is that it is impossible to answer. It is also impossible to answer how many people may have been infected via corona virus left on surfaces.
    Yeah that's my point.
    I use hand sanitizer constantly as it may play some part but I wouldn't be knowingly touching anything after seeing someone picking their nose and touching it.


  • #6711
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is there a new disability causing broken elbows in people?

    I witnessed someone clearing her throat by coughing, without covering her mouth. She didn't look sick thank goodness and I know chances of it being virus is low but that's besides the point. It's claimed people are infectious before showing symptoms and there was a person coughing and probably expelling body fluids/saliva into the open. If we all went around like that being selfish and careless c*nts, the virus would spread like wildfire.

    Its habit - I would say no one will be 100% compliant 100% of the time. Everyone will have a slip at some time. Does not make them a c**t


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  • #6712
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You cannot control what other people do, only yourself, so if you judge that to reduce risk to an appropriate level you need to carry your own sanitiser, off with you. Anything you touch however could have been touched by someone with poor hygiene, so we have to practical also. Use of sanitiser has been demonstrated to be effective. Also adhering to good hygiene yourself through regular hand washing will minimize risk. You can never eliminate risk however and life must go on.

    Absolutely. Having contracted Noro Virus previously (which is not particularly pleasant) I have for several years taken things into my own hands in terms of managing personal risk by bringing my own sanitizer with me.


  • #6713
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    No new deaths in Scotland or NI again today.


  • #6714
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Per RTE News today

    more a ripple than a wave

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/


  • #6715
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    No new deaths in Scotland or NI again today.

    How many new cases there?


  • #6716
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    0 new deaths and 1 new case in the North today.


  • #6717
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    0 deaths in the Netherlands today for the first time since March 12th.


  • #6718
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nothing is 100% fool proof, so if you want to actually go places you make compromises based on risk

    I’m quite well aware of that hence my post, i don’t need to be lectured about it.


  • #6719
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Well we will have a new normal. Bad hygienic habits will hopefully be gone and a positive legacy of all this.

    Fat people on planes might finally be made to pay for their extra weight!


  • #6720
    Icantthinkof1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    I calculate the number of active cases in Ireland (based on testing) is;

    178

    Source: CMO definition of active cases (14 days from test you are no longer active)
    Source: Worldometer dates of cases announced (slight delay from date of test but sufficient for this exercise).

    That doesn’t fill me with confidence ever since a person posted here that they knew of a case in intensive care that tested positive for Covid for up to 2 months and was considered to be probably contagious over that period of time


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  • #6721
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Icantthinkof1 wrote: »
    That doesn’t fill me with confidence ever since a person posted here that they knew of a case in intensive care that tested positive for Covid for up to 2 months and was considered to be probably contagious over that period of time

    You’re not supposed to believe everything posted on the internet to be fair


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