Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

hotmail.com wrote: »

When Irish leader does it.. it's humour. When British or American does it.. he's a Nazi.

Leo has more license to do it because his spoofology levels have been considerably lower (not at zero mind) in this whole crisis and in general than those ****wits.

tom1ie wrote: »

What?
There’s no fear. It’s just I’m not naive enough to think we are somehow going to magically keep this virus out of Ireland when tourists and business travellers start coming back in from infected countries and we have fully opened up our “lockdown”
I’m not saying we should keep the lockdown going, far from it. It’s killing the economy but it is inevitable (yes use that gif of agent smith if you want) that the virus numbers will go back up when travellers from different country’s come here. This will then lead to spread within the community.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this, well ....... fine. They just don’t understand it.
So roll your eyes all you want.
Will I put you in the naive bracket?

Tbh this is my feeling as well. It started off as me being overly anxious about the virus itself and how it may effect my family or me. Now I realise I’m very low risk, mid 30s and healthy, family should be ok too. But that fear has been replaced with a fear others being so overly complacent that it throws away everything we’ve done and completely ****s the economy.

I hope there isn’t another wave, but I’m struggling to see how it can’t happen looking at other countries (US/Iran, etc) and I understand people say there can’t be another lockdown, as people won’t stand for it, but what other choice is there in the case of a second wave?

I’m optimistic that hopefully we can dampen down waves with tracing and isolating, but I do still overthink the case that if we lose grip on the tracing/isolating part, what might happen then.

Isnt it sad as a nation that we want intricate details of how the pubs will operate but throw caution to the wind about wearing facemasks

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Afraid it is.

The WHO said today the situation was out of control in Latin America and not just in Brazil

Peru, Chile, Colombia and Argentina are also experiencing a big surge.

Why this is important for Europe is the seasonal aspect. We won't know for sure until late in the Autumn obviously but South Africa and South America getting hit really badly on a scale nowhere else has seen, not even the United States.

Piss poor leadership also playing it's part clearly.

Yep. What’s Argentina’s stance on this though are theyvtrying to lockdown and flatten the curve?
Without Ireland shutting down airports and ports there is no way of stopping us importing this virus.
Not saying it’s the right thing to do but common sense says if you allow people from infected countries in you will become an infected country.

fritzelly wrote: »

Are they even bothering trying to stop it anymore anywhere there?

The president (or Trump tribute act) seems content enough with the mass graves being dug in the Amazon.

Not sure much of the population will see it that way.

Brazil Explanation: states like Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro had problems with registering new cases in the past 2 days. The system went back online today and they then reported a huge amount of accumulated cases.

tom1ie wrote: »

Town where? Dublin City centre?

I'm in Cork City and see a lot of compliance. You know not everybody in Ireland is a thicko, right?

fritzelly wrote: »

To Portugal then on to Ireland

Wonder why they don't like Portugal in favour of Ireland so. We must have the pull factor for them, but not sure what it is. Maybe as English Language students, they can work x number of hours or something. Dunno.

But for sure there are LOTS of Brazilians here. Fair dues to them, playing the game on us, when Portugal is just down the road with the same lingo and all that.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm in Cork City and see a lot of compliance. You know not everybody in Ireland is a thicko, right?

Absolutely I can only comment on what I’ve seen and what I have been told.
But again it only takes a small minority to spread this unfortunately

tom1ie wrote: »

NO NO NO people are obeying 2m SD rules! Sure certain posters are claiming this!!

Maybe not where you are living tom. I walk 6/7 km every day, meeting a fair amount of people. Almost all, including myself, are still doing the "I stepped out and you stepped in again" thing. I exclude from this the cyclists. Other than them, I see a huge compliance of SD.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I am in Dublin . People all around me are keeping distance . Neighbours chatting with 2 m between them , queues in supermarkets with 2m distance . People stepping aside in parks and on paths .

Really? And in supermarkets the same? question for buses the same?
I’d respectfully disagree. But that just my experience.

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Isnt it sad as a nation that we want intricate details of how the pubs will operate but throw caution to the wind about wearing facemasks

All the blame here rests with the government.

The mixed and confused messaging. The media briefings from the outset saying that masks weren't necessary and the research is mixed on it.

No wonder the public here have no desire to wear the masks.

tom1ie wrote: »

Really? And in supermarkets the same? question for buses the same?
I’d respectfully disagree. But that just my experience.

People are definitely still keeping their distance in supermarkets. I've been in a few this week and people have been keeping clear of each other and not approaching the checkout until they are told to.