Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

antodeco wrote: »

General question as cant seem to find anything online, As more and more people start interacting and returning to work, I feel this could come up.

If someone you have had contact with (eg: work environment) tests positive, obviously you should self isolate for 14 days. But what if you get a then get tested and receive a negative result, do you still self isolate for the 14 days or because you are negative you are free to return as normal? Reading on the HSE site and I didnt see that specific example

You get tested as a contact on Day 0 and Day 7. If both are negative you are grand as far as I know.

bb1234567 wrote: »

Twice as many people under 60 have now died in Brazil which has a population of 210 m than all of the EU with a population 446 m.

184,000 people have died in the EU, and only about 4% of these deaths were under 60 (roughly 7,300 people). 31% of Brazi's deaths are under 60, which is over 14,000 people.
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/05/22/in-brazil-covid-19-hitting-young-people-harder.html

Given how few under 60's we saw hospitalised in Ireland and Europe in general it seems as though this high death rate among younger age groups cannot be attributed solely due to the poorer healthcare in the developing world. Most younger Europeans simply did not become very sick after contracting this virus and managed without hospitalisation fine, in Brazil , Mexico , India this does not appear to be the case. Certainly seems as though this diseases appears to just be a lot more dangerous among people who are not of European origin/ethnicity.

I suspect it is due to the level of poverty experienced in huge parts of Brazil, it can’t be compared with poverty in Europe as it is much more severe and widespread . The living conditions for many people in Brazil are in shanty towns as opposed to houses like we have in Europe. A lot of people didn’t get it in Europe as we can stay at home with symptoms, have separate rooms, access to water to clean hands etc.

In the counties you’ve mentioned many people don’t have separate rooms or basic sanitisation. Many people don’t have access to clean water or even food. Another big difference is a lot of people in poorer countries need to work to eat. If they don’t work they starve, they don’t have the option to stay at home and stay safe like Europe does.

We are very lucky to live somewhere there are supports in place. I can’t imagine how awful people in Brazil are suffering.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Has there been any cases yet of anyone catching this from going shopping? This virus has been around since February and I've went shopping about two or three times a week and I still haven't picked this up.

Only story's from rag newspaper reports,
Yes there is evidence that it can live on paper plastic metal ect
A small outbreak in Germany in a parcel distribution centre a while back evidence concluded that there was no trace of the virus on the packages even though a high number of employees were infected.
The infection spread because of close contact between employees and lack of compliance with safe gaurds that were put in place.
Infection from an innominate object is not considered a major path of infection stated by the WHO

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Not looking for a row but you claimed before you were vulnerable, why would you go shopping 2/3 times a week during a pandemic?(Although I suspect you will deny saying that)
To answer your question there is no evidence that anyone has caught the virus shopping, plus the fact hoards of Supermarket workers didn't drop dead from the virus should also give people comfort.

People have different reasons as to why they go shopping. I would do that myself as it’s not possible for me to manage one big shop a week. Other people shop for relatives or people that are vulnerable.

I wouldn’t be concerned about getting it in shops at all and can imagine this will be the case during this phase. Cases won’t shoot up. I say it’s prolonged contact, eg sitting in offices, pubs etc

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

That's not what I meant in my question. Has anyone actually picked this up from going into a shop? Shop assistants don't seem to be as badly affected here either but I'm basing that view on seeing the same shop assistants every week and none seem to have went out sick.

If there was you would have heard about it by now

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

That's not what I meant in my question. Has anyone actually picked this up from going into a shop? Shop assistants don't seem to be as badly affected here either but I'm basing that view on seeing the same shop assistants every week and none seem to have went out sick.

There was talk of a few Irish supermarket workers contracting the virus but apparently the numbers were extremely low, perhaps into single figures or low double numbers.