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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,349 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Brazil has nearly 1 million cases with 1.6 million tests done, approximately 62.5% positivity rate.

    As well as that, they've done just 7000 tests per 1 million population. In comparison, we've done 78000 per million.

    Wow!
    So if they tested as much as we have how many cases would they have?
    No wonder their death rate is so high .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    UK citizens face quarantine requirements across Europe over failure to bring COVID under control with Spain the latest country to indicate it will require UK holiday makers to quarantine on arrival.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/spain-may-quarantine-british-visitors-in-response-to-uk-policy-coronavirus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    UK citizens face quarantine requirements across Europe over failure to bring COVID under control with Spain the latest country to indicate it will require UK holiday makers to quarantine on arrival.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/spain-may-quarantine-british-visitors-in-response-to-uk-policy-coronavirus

    As long as there's all day breakfast and lager at the quarantine hotel they'll be happy out I'm sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,349 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Looks like Daily Mirror type reporting and website hyping up something known for a while that has no real bearing

    No I read it, I think , in the New York Times in the last week .
    Still doesn't make it true though .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    UK citizens face quarantine requirements across Europe over failure to bring COVID under control with Spain the latest country to indicate it will require UK holiday makers to quarantine on arrival.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/spain-may-quarantine-british-visitors-in-response-to-uk-policy-coronavirus

    Guess its just a precursor to what happens from next year anyway when they've left the EU :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    No I read it, I think , in the New York Times in the last week .
    Still doesn't make it true though .

    It's still old news that is being picked up by every rag - one reports they all report it (most are part of the same group anyway so just shared reporting but does well on Google in the search results)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    You were wondering what other posters would think of a piece of research that has not passed peer review but you prefaced it with not wanting to be the bearer of bad news etc. Call me a cynic but I would question your motive for posting the link. That's just me though.
    I'd question your motives because almost every single time I come on here you're shooting someone down for sharing information on a message forum, but there you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    growleaves wrote: »
    Texas, with a population of 29 million, has so far peaked with 63 daily deaths on May 21st (Worldometer). State officials say they can increase hospital capacity beyond its current capacity if they need to, they don't seem worried. Should we assume they're lying?

    Yeah Ive just looked further into Texas and their hospital capacity after reading the posts from earlier. This is what the experts had to say about it today
    AUSTIN, Texas (KLTV/KTRE) - Texas Gov. Greg Abbott addressed the state Tuesday to assure Texans “abundant hospital capacity exists” to treat COVID-19 patients.

    Dr. John Zerwas, the executive vice chancellor for health affairs of the University of Texas (UT) System said the state still has about 15,000 available hospital beds for CVID patients experiencing the more severe symptoms of the illness.

    “We have an incredibly robust healthcare system in the state of Texas,” Zerwas said. “Our healthcare professionals are able to serve COVID patients and address other health issues.”

    Zerwas outlined the five levels of care that are available in Texas for COVID-19 patients, ranging from Level 5 to level 1. He said the Lone Star State is still at Level 5, or the safest level. That means Texas hospitals are well below their capacity of hospital beds that are available for COVID-19 patients. Level 4 would mean that hospitals would have to increase capacity by upgrading other rooms to accommodate COVID-19 patients.

    If the levels increase in severity, communities would need to use long-term acute care hospitals, nursing homes, medical office buildings, etc. At Level 1, which is the most severe case, cities and counties would have to bring in field hospitals like the one the Texas National Guard set up in the Dallas area and later took down and set them up in arenas and convention centers.

    Thousands of additional available beds could quickly be made available if Texas is forced to go to Level 4 or Level 3, Zerwas said.

    The governor said that COVID-19 still exists in Texas, the United States, and the world. He added it will remain a health hazard until healthcare professionals come up with some type of vaccine or another way to effectively treat the illness.

    “For that reason, we remain laser-focused on having abundant hospital capacity in the state of Texas,” Abbott said.

    Remember, the point of the lockdowns was to buy time for healthcare systems to not be overwhelmed and put preparations in place. It wasnt to wait out the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Yeah Ive just looked further into Texas and their hospital capacity after reading the posts from earlier. This is what the experts had to say about it today

    Remember, the point of the lockdowns was to buy time for healthcare systems to not be overwhelmed and put preparations in place. It wasnt to wait out the virus.

    Point is they should be in the eradication phase now not preparing for a surge

    Ridiculous that after 2+ months they are looking at overwhelming the hospitals when every other (first world) country is reopening with no issues bar the odd flare up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Like a thousand comments and no context


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Like a thousand comments and no context

    There are some masks which means the photo was definitely recent, but not enough masks for it to be in any way responsible behaviour. No other context needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    There are some masks which means the photo was definitely recent, but not enough masks for it to be in any way responsible behaviour. No other context needed.

    What picture?


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fritzelly wrote: »
    What picture?

    eUzbWBI.jpg


    Did it not show for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Did it not show for you?

    Shows image deleted in your post and on the reddit thread - probably showing cached image for you

    Anyway like all images you have no concept of depth, certainly not thousands of people crammed together in that pic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Gintonious wrote: »

    That is less new daily cases per capita than we were reporting in April. Brazil is 42 times our population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Looks like Daily Mirror type reporting and website hyping up something known for a while that has no real bearing

    I tend not to visit a website that has more pop ups and ads than story and is more likely to give whatever device you are using a virus!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    That is less new daily cases per capita than we were reporting in April. Brazil is 42 times our population.

    They are grand so. Not like it's rising on a daily basis or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Only trump could make a microscopic virus a partisan issue. This rally will not end well. Oklahoma just had the highest daily increase in the country and trump is making attendees waive their right to sue him if they get sick or people die. I mean its pretty surreal how much of a complete monster this guy is.


  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Brynlee Weak Winter


    That is less new daily cases per capita than we were reporting in April. Brazil is 42 times our population.

    You cannot compare countries, per capita or otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    froog wrote: »
    Only trump could make a microscopic virus a partisan issue. This rally will not end well. Oklahoma just had the highest daily increase in the country and trump is making attendees waive their right to sue him if they get sick or people die. I mean its pretty surreal how much of a complete monster this guy is.

    Its not just trump doing it, the whole thing is politicized to **** and its a disgrace. Trump rally bad, protests good ( they both are bad but some on each side will never admit it). Wearing a mask means you're a filthy liberal and not wearing one means you're a stupid redneck. On social media and TV news mostly, of course.

    In real life, people just get on with things. I wear a mask, no one has said anything. I see people not wearing masks, I dont say anything (still judge though, and they are probably judging me back lol) Probably 60/40 ratio in my area of wearing masks as opposed to not.

    But if you are ok with the protests, you cant really complain about trump rallies, and vice versa. Personally I don't think either should happen but I get why people are protesting, and its their constitutional right. Political rallies, not so much but I can also see why they are doing it. Both of them are most likely spreading the virus, but so are a lot of things at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    UK citizens face quarantine requirements across Europe over failure to bring COVID under control with Spain the latest country to indicate it will require UK holiday makers to quarantine on arrival.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/spain-may-quarantine-british-visitors-in-response-to-uk-policy-coronavirus

    According to the article ' may face'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    According to the article ' may face'.

    Quarantine for holidaymakers? What if they are on holiday for just 2-3 days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Renjit wrote: »
    Quarantine for holidaymakers? What if they are on holiday for just 2-3 days?

    I read the article that the poster linked, may and could appeared frequently including reciprocal.
    If however someone going on a trip for 2/3 days where quarantine is definite to me it would seem unlikely they would travel. Although the quarantine we have in place here is paper based only, meaningless in other words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Good to see but an awful lot of those will fail or never even complete their phases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It's still old news that is being picked up by every rag - one reports they all report it (most are part of the same group anyway so just shared reporting but does well on Google in the search results)

    It's not old news. The new news is in addition to the theory based on the spread of the two mutations as detected by genome analysis.

    The new news is from lab experiments where it was shown that the mutation (614D) is nearly 10 times as efficient at infecting cells.

    The two sets of 'news' are from two separate scientific disciplines, and the New York Times is not a rag.

    Full study: https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2020/20200611-choe-farzan-sars-cov-2-spike-protein.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/science/coronavirus-mutation-genetics-spike.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    eUzbWBI.jpg


    Did it not show for you?

    This seems like such a specific example to fixate on? There have been much larger more densely packed stationary protests in much larger cities where infection is more rampant, surely they are more irrensponsible and will have much greater widespread impact


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Ireland's deaths don't seem as high compared to the rest of the world anymore , now only 26th in the world. Soon to be passed out by South Africa and Bangladesh and many other countries with quickly growing outbreaks. Hard to believe we still have higher deaths than big countries like that at the same time though!


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