Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

eagle eye · 14-06-2020 02:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote:

A few high-up nurses I know in Cork are convinced we had COVID cases in October.

With how fast it spread when we knew about it that makes no sense from a mathematical perspective.

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 02:31PM

eagle eye wrote: »

With how fast it spread when we knew about it that makes no sense from a mathematical perspective.

It is entirely plausible that the virus has mutated significantly over the past 6-8 months. Viruses mutate incredibly quickly. Increased infectivity is blamed for the sheer scale of the outbreak in the Americas.

Dr. Bre · 14-06-2020 02:40PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Where are the virus hotspots now?

Bray

igCorcaigh · 14-06-2020 02:43PM

Irish Times:

The number of outbreaks of coronavirus in private houses has more than trebled in the space of a week, new figures show.

igCorcaigh · 14-06-2020 02:45PM

Nine imported cases in the past week.

Looks like we'll be battling low levels of this in the community for some time.

Micky 32 · 14-06-2020 02:50PM

No further deaths in NI, only 7 new cases.

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 03:08PM

Doctors at Cork University Hospital have identified a case of Covid-19 in February that appears to predate the first known Irish case.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-man-had-covid-19-in-cork-in-late-february-before-first-confirmed-irish-case-1.4278840

podgeandrodge · 14-06-2020 03:39PM

briany wrote: »

How bad of a second wave would have to happen for there to be another lockdown? So many people have complained of being on their arse, be it physically, financially or spiritually, from the lockdown we have had and are emerging from that they're surely not going to tolerate even the talk of another one if cases and deaths spike up again. I could imagine both sides of the debate having some very bitter and emotional confrontations if it were to come to making that decision.

There won't be a second 'lockdown'. Potentially variants on restrictions in some areas being repeated if there is an urgent necessity, but Governments across the world know that populations in general won't take another run at full lockdown. It was hard to contain them for the first one for too long. Majority will demand re-opening of society, and vulnerable/elderly will have to make certain life choices if society lives with the virus in advance of a vaccine (hopefully later this year/early next year). World economy needs to start turning again and, rightly or wrongly, the majority of people that either don't get, or survive, Covid will demand that life goes on. Just my view on what will happen, right or wrong.

drunkmonkey · 14-06-2020 03:47PM

It'll be a county lockdown not a country one they said it last week.
Where are all these new household outbreaks?

tom1ie · 14-06-2020 04:01PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

There won't be a second 'lockdown'. Potentially variants on restrictions in some areas being repeated if there is an urgent necessity, but Governments across the world know that populations in general won't take another run at full lockdown. It was hard to contain them for the first one for too long. Majority will demand re-opening of society, and vulnerable/elderly will have to make certain life choices if society lives with the virus in advance of a vaccine (hopefully later this year/early next year). World economy needs to start turning again and, rightly or wrongly, the majority of people that either don't get, or survive, Covid will demand that life goes on. Just my view on what will happen, right or wrong.

It won’t just affect vulnerable/elderly though.
That’s the point!
Once hospitals are overwhelmed by vulnerable/elderly there’ll be no room for anyone else.

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:06PM

Cousin of mine returned home one/two weeks ago and had to sign the declaration for self-isolation. Has been contacted twice by the Gardai since, once with a visit and second with a phone call today. They seem proactive.

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:09PM

1 new death RIP - 1,706 deaths

8 new cases - 25,303 cases

Away With The Fairies · 14-06-2020 04:13PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cousin of mine returned home one/two weeks ago and had to sign the declaration for self-isolation. Has been contacted twice by the Gardai since, once with a visit and second with a phone call today. They seem proactive.

Can they still go out shopping and all that?

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:14PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Can they still go out shopping and all that?

They don't specifically because they're living with their parents. They can if they need to though, as it's essential. Wearing a mask obviously.

stephenjmcd · 14-06-2020 04:16PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cousin of mine returned home one/two weeks ago and had to sign the declaration for self-isolation. Has been contacted twice by the Gardai since, once with a visit and second with a phone call today. They seem proactive.

Its hit and miss really, heard of others that got 2 phone calls and literally just asked were they at home, yes, end of conversation.

In terms of house visits seems to depend on the local station and how busy they are.

It'll be dropped soon enough anyway, come 1st July when flights get going properly its really non enforceable, too many people for gardai to be calling to. As per memo to cabinet anyway start of phase 3 expected to see restrictions lifted

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:16PM

31 of yesterday's cases were in Dublin. I will have full analysis of them up soon.

podgeandrodge · 14-06-2020 04:18PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

There won't be a second 'lockdown'. Potentially variants on restrictions in some areas being repeated if there is an urgent necessity, but Governments across the world know that populations in general won't take another run at full lockdown. It was hard to contain them for the first one for too long. Majority will demand re-opening of society, and vulnerable/elderly will have to make certain life choices if society lives with the virus in advance of a vaccine (hopefully later this year/early next year). World economy needs to start turning again and, rightly or wrongly, the majority of people that either don't get, or survive, Covid will demand that life goes on. Just my view on what will happen, right or wrong.

tom1ie wrote: »

It won’t just affect vulnerable/elderly though.
That’s the point!
Once hospitals are overwhelmed by vulnerable/elderly there’ll be no room for anyone else.

That's why they will want contact tracing working well I guess. But in the last run there was plenty of room for everyone else, weren't hospitals near empty in some cases? Social distancing got us most of the way, and elements of that will likely have to continue (even if only as common sense by people themselves) to keep things containable until a vaccine/treatment.

An Ciarraioch · 14-06-2020 04:20PM

1 death and 8 cases today.

KrustyUCC · 14-06-2020 04:21PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

1 new death RIP - 1,706 deaths

8 new cases - 25,303 cases

Thankfully much better than yesterday even allowing for the mess up in yesterday's figures

A positive week cases wise

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:23PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Thankfully much better than yesterday even allowing for the mess up in yesterday's figures

A positive week cases wise

Positive in most instances. I'm still estimating that well over 50% of cases are coming from Dublin. In yesterday's case, 91% of the cases were from Dublin, and 58% the day before. That seems to be our issue right now.

Beasty · 14-06-2020 04:29PM

hmmm wrote: »

I love these updates. Never know whether to laugh or cry. Just looked at my first post on the virus (back in January) and I said I hoped the main casualty would be the open office in workplaces - eh yeah, it certainly did that.

I think the whole office culture will change (is changing) permanently. People will realise they can work remotely and efficiently. Some people may be in the office a couple of days a week and for others it may be a couple of days a month. No need to sit in traffic jams. Take a lot of pressure off City centre rents and allow workers more time with their families. In fact I can see productivity rising in a lot of "service industry" jobs

I was already moving towards retirement working 4 days a week and stepping back entirely in 2 more years time. I now reckon I'll be in the office for perhaps 30 more days and elsewhere in meetings for another 5-10

I used to think we would see fundamental changes over the next decade or so, but we are experiencing them now.

PopTarts · 14-06-2020 04:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Positive in most instances. I'm still estimating that well over 50% of cases are coming from Dublin. In yesterday's case, 91% of the cases were from Dublin, and 58% the day before. That seems to be our issue right now.

Majority health care workers.

JP Liz V1 · 14-06-2020 04:36PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Where are the virus hotspots now?

Everywhere but New Zealand

phater phagan · 14-06-2020 04:36PM

Sorry. My previous post was in error. I meant to reply to a N.I. post.

stephenjmcd · 14-06-2020 04:37PM

Beasty wrote: »

I think the whole office culture will change (is changing) permanently. People will realise they can work remotely and efficiently. Some people may be in the office a couple of days a week and for others it may be a couple of days a month. No need to sit in traffic jams. Take a lot of pressure off City centre rents and allow workers more time with their families. In fact I can see productivity rising in a lot of "service industry" jobs

I was already moving towards retirement working 4 days a week and stepping back entirely in 2 more years time. I now reckon I'll be in the office for perhaps 30 more days and elsewhere in meetings for another 5-10

I used to think we would see fundamental changes over the next decade or so, but we are experiencing them now.

To be fair now in my own office we've had the remote working option for the last 2 years, in a building of just under 600 its never caught on.

In my own department everyone wants to return to the office and have the option to use remote working a little bit more, a day or two here and there but in general from my own experience it doesn't seem to be changing in my place. The option has been there, will continue to be there, the most frequently said issue seems to be the lack of ability to switch off from work mode at home.

KrustyUCC · 14-06-2020 04:41PM

PopTarts wrote: »

Majority health care workers.

Really?

I had hoped we would see those cases start falling with better PPE etc

tom1ie · 14-06-2020 04:49PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

That's why they will want contact tracing working well I guess. But in the last run there was plenty of room for everyone else, weren't hospitals near empty in some cases? Social distancing got us most of the way, and elements of that will likely have to continue (even if only as common sense by people themselves) to keep things containable until a vaccine/treatment.

Contact tracing will be no good when social distancing is gone.
I gave an example on here before of an asymptotic person on a packed plane spreading it to others. When 5 or so people develop symptoms that will be at least 5 days down the road but could be more than 14 days. That’s a large amount of potential contacts in that time, very hard to trace all the contacts.

There was plenty of room in hospitals due to social distancing and the lockdown which reduced the transmission of c19.
People just will not tolerate a lockdown again and social distancing is (from what I can see and have experienced) few and far between.

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:51PM

PopTarts wrote: »

Majority health care workers.

7 healthcare cases out of 45 yesterday, so not really.

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 04:56PM

Analysis of cases as of midnight Friday 12th June - 25,295 cases (+46)

Healthcare Workers +7
Clusters +29
Cases associated with clusters +46

Age Range Affected
0-4 +2
5-14 +3
15-24 +4
25-34 +9
35-44 +9
45-54 +8
55-64 +4
65-74 +1
75-84 +4
85+ +2

Cases by County
Carlow +3
Dublin +31
Galway +1
Kilkenny +2
Mayo +1
Monaghan +1
Roscommon +1

Note:
I incorrectly stated it was +41 in Dublin, it's actually +31. Clusters still growing which indicates private households still dominate the daily cases.

What Username Guidelines · 14-06-2020 04:58PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Analysis of cases as of midnight Friday 12th June - 25,295 cases (+46)

Healthcare Workers +7
Clusters +29
Cases associated with clusters +46

Age Range Affected
0-4 +2
5-14 +3
15-24 +4
25-34 +9
35-44 +9
45-54 +8
55-64 +4
65-74 +1
75-84 +4
85+ +2

Cases by County
Carlow +3
Dublin +31
Galway +1
Kilkenny +2
Mayo +1
Monaghan +1
Roscommon +1

Note:
I incorrectly stated it was +41 in Dublin, it's actually +31. Clusters still growing which indicates private households still dominate the daily cases.

Shame for Mayo, they went 14/15 days without a case.

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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