Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

Micky 32 · 14-06-2020 12:08PM

Great to see some more positive news.^

Renjit · 14-06-2020 12:10PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Pakistan reports 6,825 new cases and 81 fatalities - a new record from yesterday (6,431).

To be fair, South Asia started a bit late just like South America. And most of these numbers may be under-reported too.

Away With The Fairies · 14-06-2020 12:16PM

thelad95 wrote: »

I don't care what anyone says and I consider myself a very rational person but I wholeheartedly believe the virus was here weeks if not months before the HSE started confirming cases.

The HSE know this is a probability but in terms of PR, it's better in a case like this that the public doesn't know everything until it's officially confirmed.

I wonder has most of us been exposed without knowing?

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 12:27PM

A few high-up nurses I know in Cork are convinced we had COVID cases in October.

Cork Boy 53 · 14-06-2020 12:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

A few high-up nurses I know in Cork are convinced we had COVID cases in October.

Based on what? What would have been the source of the virus as early as then?

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 12:32PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Based on what? What would have been the source of the virus as early as then?

I’m just telling you what they said. I’m not a nurse so I don’t know.

Hector Savage · 14-06-2020 12:34PM

is_that_so wrote: »

In about 3 weeks time you most likely will be able to plan it!

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

pc7 · 14-06-2020 12:35PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

Where is that Hector?

Beanybabog · 14-06-2020 12:37PM

ShyMets wrote: »

The virus was almost certainly here weeks before our first reported case. But I don't buy into the idea that it was here months before.

If it was, why didn't we see it ripping through our care homes earlier

Is that not based on the assumptions about the virus - like how fast it circulates, how many people infect other people, how many cases are mild /severe/ asymptomatic? If any of those are wrong it changes a lot

timsey tiger · 14-06-2020 12:41PM

thelad95 wrote: »

Anyone a bit disheartened by the delay in reporting? I know it's not significant and certainly nothing to be alarmed by but this and the time when the Mater found nearly 300 cases down the back of the couch make me always doubly sceptical of what we hear as I just await a soon to be reported caveat.

Well yes, I just hope that the people waiting on those results didn't pass it on to anybody else.

Micky 32 · 14-06-2020 12:42PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

I would be very surprised the EU would claim something like that, especially when October is some way off yet.

ExMachina1000 · 14-06-2020 12:44PM

Where are the virus hotspots now?

Micky 32 · 14-06-2020 12:44PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

Well yes, I just hope that the people waiting on those results didn't pass it on to anybody else.

Hopefully they abided the isolation rules while waiting for the results.

CBear1993 · 14-06-2020 12:45PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

I heard if your granny had balls she’d be your granda as well :rolleyes:

Cork Boy 53 · 14-06-2020 12:45PM

pc7 wrote: »

Where is that Hector?

In Spain. This poster has stated several times that he lives there.

ixoy · 14-06-2020 12:46PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

No they're not.

timsey tiger · 14-06-2020 12:49PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Sad indeed, I live in Spain my parents live in Ireland both in their 70s, have fully accepted there's a very high chance I'll never see them again ..

Are you on the run from the law or something...

Cork Boy 53 · 14-06-2020 12:50PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

If there is a second wave of the virus in the autumn that may well be the case but I`m not aware that there has been an official EU statement to that effect. When did this happen?

wadacrack · 14-06-2020 12:51PM

https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1272080898306048000

Cork Boy 53 · 14-06-2020 12:56PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Where are the virus hotspots now?

USA and Brazil would be 2 of them anyway.

Icantthinkof1 · 14-06-2020 01:00PM

Re: covid cases circulating earlier
Would it be possible that coronavirus was circulating as early as Autumn’19, someone in Wuhan had this strain and it then mutated in Jan’20 into the more severe strain that we see now causing the spike in hospitalisations and deaths?

timsey tiger · 14-06-2020 01:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’m just telling you what they said. I’m not a nurse so I don’t know.

and nurses aren't doctors and aren't qualified to diagnose, even if they are now in mgmt. roles.

pc7 · 14-06-2020 01:02PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

In Spain. This poster has stated several times that he lives there.

I dip in and out, anyway haven’t heard the EU make that statement for Spain or anywhere

Cork Boy 53 · 14-06-2020 01:07PM

pc7 wrote: »

I dip in and out, anyway haven’t heard the EU make that statement for Spain or anywhere

Neither have I which is why I questioned the poster about it.

14-06-2020 01:12PM

If you've convinced yourself there's a high chance you won't see your parents again, you need to buy a book and ignore the internet. Lunacy.

Onesea · 14-06-2020 01:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you've convinced yourself there's a high chance you won't see your parents again, you need to buy a book and ignore the internet. Lunacy.

With everything the way it is you can't blame him for having that mindset. I am in the same boat,and the problem is if and when I can travel will I end being stuck in Ireland because of another lockdown..

ACitizenErased · 14-06-2020 01:30PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

and nurses aren't doctors and aren't qualified to diagnose, even if they are now in mgmt. roles.

Right.......

Non solum non ambulabit · 14-06-2020 02:13PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

EU are saying very high likelihood of full on lockdown here by October, I don't wana be travelling near to that if that is the case.

EU have no idea or this nor is it the EUs responsibility. National governments will decide.

briany · 14-06-2020 02:17PM

How bad of a second wave would have to happen for there to be another lockdown? So many people have complained of being on their arse, be it physically, financially or spiritually, from the lockdown we have had and are emerging from that they're surely not going to tolerate even the talk of another one if cases and deaths spike up again. I could imagine both sides of the debate having some very bitter and emotional confrontations if it were to come to making that decision.

DevilsHaircut · 14-06-2020 02:18PM

Re the early Cork community transmission case, according to nextstrain.org he had the 614D 'strain'.

The later 614G strain, which now dominates, has recently been demonstrated to be 10 times more infectious in vitro than 614D.

It may explain why earlier seeding in Cork didn't lead to a disproportionately high level of cases.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/science/coronavirus-mutation-genetics-spike.html

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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