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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #4352
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You quoted the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article. Truly you are the great scholar of our time. So once you're finished congratulating yourself are you going to clue the unwashed hordes of the good doctors message?

    Yeah ok.
    The doc is saying the infection rate in the USA is approx 5% (some places higher eg New York, some places lower)
    He is saying virus won’t go away until we reach 60-70% with immunity which will happen either by a vaccine or infection.
    A vaccine is at least 18 months away according to him and that is when vaccines start being mass administered.
    The world has gone into some sort of lockdown for let’s say 4 months, do you think we won’t see a second wave in the next 18 months?


  • #4353
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,990 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    MD1990 wrote:
    Hard to believe we are only getting 8-20 cases per day in the last few weeks when reading this thread.
    The fear & negativity is incredible I suggest some on here go outside for a walk.
    I'm just back from a walk and the first post I rolled my eyes at was this one.


  • #4354
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Right I was on mobile so I hoped the big massive gap between the quote and my post and me saying you said this to me would suffice but I guess some people have to be spoon-fed.

    Are you this confrontational in real life? Lighten up!


  • #4355
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    fr336 wrote: »
    Are you this confrontational in real life? Lighten up!

    Do you try and misquote people in real life?


  • #4356
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Do you try and misquote people in real life?

    The immaturity is comical. Have a good night!


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  • #4357
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Yeah ok.
    The doc is saying the infection rate in the USA is approx 5% (some places higher eg New York, some places lower)
    He is saying virus won’t go away until we reach 60-70% with immunity which will happen either by a vaccine or infection.
    A vaccine is at least 18 months away according to him and that is when vaccines start being mass administered.
    The world has gone into some sort of lockdown for let’s say 4 months, do you think we won’t see a second wave in the next 18 months?

    The vaccine has been 18 months away since February, surely it should be 14 months away by now ?


  • #4358
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Do you try and misquote people in real life?

    Any mature response to my previous post?


  • #4359
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    The vaccine has been 18 months away since February, surely it should be 14 months away by now ?

    18 months at leat according to olsterholm.


  • #4360
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Yeah ok.
    The doc is saying the infection rate in the USA is approx 5% (some places higher eg New York, some places lower)
    He is saying virus won’t go away until we reach 60-70% with immunity which will happen either by a vaccine or infection.
    A vaccine is at least 18 months away according to him and that is when vaccines start being mass administered.
    The world has gone into some sort of lockdown for let’s say 4 months, do you think we won’t see a second wave in the next 18 months?

    Well we won't ever be caught off guard like we were in February. It'll be lockdown in specific areas rather than a blanket Nationwide lockdown. It'll basically become the strategy of choice until a vaccine which hopefully will be sooner than 18 months going by the news out of Oxford.


  • #4361
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    fr336 wrote: »
    The immaturity is comical. Have a good night!

    I know you should really work on it. Have a great weekend


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  • #4362
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Tbh plumb I really couldn’t be bothered. You have your view I have mine.
    But you still haven’t answered my question on wether a second wave will materialise and this time I’ll add before a vaccine is available.
    It's good manners if you are going to make an allegation that you back it up, you have not done so. So I can only view your tactic as a pathetic attempt to dismiss someone who disagrees with your position.
    Considering your behaviour what makes you think any questions you pose to me is warranted with answers?


  • #4363
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭maebee


    The last few pages here have been painful to read with the pointless squabbling, especially in light of the seriousness of the thread topic.


  • #4364
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Steve F wrote: »
    46 cases??
    Bit of a jump that??
    ☹️

    24 today cases today. Other 22 was Thursday and Friday cases.


  • #4365
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Well we won't ever be caught off guard like we were in February. It'll be lockdown in specific areas rather than a blanket Nationwide lockdown. It'll basically become the strategy of choice until a vaccine which hopefully will be sooner than 18 months going by the news out of Oxford.

    Grand so we are passed all the stupid comments we can get onto the grown up discussions. Good.
    What happens if we had infected people at the mass protests? How do we contact trace them?
    What happens if a full plane from London comes over with 2 infected people, but those two people are asymptotic. The plane load of people end up with 10 people who were close to the two asymptotic people, developing symptoms- however not until 2 weeks later. How many people have those 10 come into contact with?
    Good luck with contact tracing.
    Anyone that takes a critical eye on this can see its full of holes.
    A second wave is probably inevitable


  • #4366
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    maebee wrote: »
    The last few pages here have been painful to read with the pointless squabbling, especially in light of the seriousness of the thread topic.

    Agreed. No more crap comments from me.


  • #4367
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    tom1ie wrote: »
    18 months at leat according to olsterholm.

    I'd imagine he;ll be saying "18 months at least" by November, I'll take it with a grain of salt.


  • #4368
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Grand so we are passed all the stupid comments we can get onto the grown up discussions. Good.
    What happens if we had infected people at the mass protests? How do we contact trace them?
    What happens if a full plane from London comes over with 2 infected people, but those two people are asymptotic. The plane load of people end up with 10 people who were close to the two asymptotic people, developing symptoms- however not until 2 weeks later. How many people have those 10 come into contact with?
    Good luck with contact tracing.
    Anyone that takes a critical eye on this can see its full of holes.
    A second wave is probably inevitable

    You're asking a question no one here is qualified to answer. Unless we build a feckin wall around Ireland we'll have to open up our ports and airports. For your own sake you should just focus on what measures you yourself can take. Wear a mask when on public transportation and wash your hands regularly. If everyone does what they should the plane issue will take care of itself.


  • #4369
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You're asking a question no one here is qualified to answer. Unless we build a feckin wall around Ireland we'll have to open up our ports and airports. For your own sake you should just focus on what measures you yourself can take. Wear a mask when on public transportation and wash your hands regularly. If everyone does what they should the plane issue will take care of itself.

    The point is to stop the virus reproducing we need to get to 60-70% infected, be that via a vaccine or infection.
    That’s just a fact.


  • #4370
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Well we won't ever be caught off guard like we were in February. It'll be lockdown in specific areas rather than a blanket Nationwide lockdown. It'll basically become the strategy of choice until a vaccine which hopefully will be sooner than 18 months going by the news out of Oxford.

    Holohan has already said a response to future outbreaks will not be a nationwide lockdown. We are in a better place than we were in March more knowledge about the virus and the majority of the public on board with what needs to done to stop the spread. Won't stop the scaremongering though.
    Life needs to go on even if a large cohort got comfortable at home on €350 per week.


  • #4371
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    I'd imagine he;ll be saying "18 months at least" by November, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

    Here's a link regarding the Oxford vaccine. Fantastic work.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/matt-frei/coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-in-uk-by-christmas/&ved=2ahUKEwiV9qmktf_pAhXDZxUIHZGGAh0QyM8BMAF6BAgJEAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Jp_AVxcjEY7iciVdWb-vg&ampcf=1


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  • #4372
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Holohan has already said a response to future outbreaks will not be a nationwide lockdown. We are in a better place than we were in March more knowledge about the virus and the majority of the public on board with what needs to done to stop the spread. Won't stop the scaremongering though.
    Life needs to go on even if a large cohort got comfortable at home on €350 per week.

    The virus already has at least a two week head start on contact tracing due to the incubation period, let alone a symptomatic carriers.


  • #4373
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccines/italy-germany-france-and-netherlands-sign-contract-with-astrazeneca-for-covid-vaccine-idUSL8N2DQ0A1
    The contract is for 400 million doses of the vaccine, which was developed with the University of Oxford and whose experimentation phase is already advanced and expected to end in autumn, Roberto Speranza said in a Facebook post.

    He added that a first batch of doses would be made available by the end of this year.


  • #4374
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It's good manners if you are going to make an allegation that you back it up, you have not done so. So I can only view your tactic as a pathetic attempt to dismiss someone who disagrees with your position.
    Considering your behaviour what makes you think any questions you pose to me is warranted with answers?

    Yeah fair enough. Best of luck.


  • #4375
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccines/italy-germany-france-and-netherlands-sign-contract-with-astrazeneca-for-covid-vaccine-idUSL8N2DQ0A1

    Hopefully.


  • #4376
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    tom1ie wrote: »
    The virus already has at least a two week head start on contact tracing due to the incubation period, let alone a symptomatic carriers.

    Two weeks is the max incubation period. Normally it's within a week.


  • #4377
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccines/italy-germany-france-and-netherlands-sign-contract-with-astrazeneca-for-covid-vaccine-idUSL8N2DQ0A1

    He added that a first batch of doses would be made available by the end of this year.




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  • #4378
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Two weeks is the max incubation period. Normally it's within a week.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-incubation-period-5-days-average-can-exceed-2-weeks-2020-3%3famp

    You are correct and wrong.
    It is normally within 5 days but the max is not two weeks, there have been cases that have exceeded 14 days. As high as 1%!


  • #4379
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    tom1ie wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-incubation-period-5-days-average-can-exceed-2-weeks-2020-3%3famp

    You are correct and wrong.
    It is normally within 5 days but the max is not two weeks, there have been cases that have exceeded 14 days. As high as 1%!

    Excuse me for misphraseing one minute detail. No one likes a know it all


  • #4380
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
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    Good news better stamp it dead Kermit. It's your kryptonite, positivity.


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  • #4381
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'm just back from a walk and the first post I rolled my eyes at was this one.

    I'm not seeing this fear and negativity the usual suspects are crowing on about. A lot more people giving out about the supposed fear and negativity than there is actually anyone displaying it.

    There isn't much panic here, despite how much some are convinced of it being widespread.


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