Why do so many people become dry so young?

pgj2015 · 12-06-2020 11:48PM

screamer wrote: »

Said the pot to the kettle. Yep I think a life pissed away is very sad, pathetic in fact. I don’t much care what pisscats do with their lives, if all they have to make love to is a pint glass so be it. Most of us don’t want to end up that way, and thankfully most of us don’t.

you really shouldn't let my post wind you up so much, not sure why it offends you so much. its just a light hearted discussion. not everyone who is in their 40's or 50's who still like to party are drunks or wasters by the way, they might just like to go wild an odd time.

pgj2015 · 12-06-2020 11:50PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Talk to most barmen and they pity most of the barley kings sitting in their pub all night getting pissed, but the owner loves them.

Trying to get rid of them at closing time is a pain in the hole or having to ban them for being arseholes and getting aggressive.

Had a great uncle that fitted the bill, lost his family over it, and his mates in the pub disappeared when the money did, but was always having a great time according to himself.

im thinking of a different crowd really to be honest, the occasional raver who goes to a few gigs a year, maybe a week in Ibiza, not the guys who drink every night of the week.

12-06-2020 11:52PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

A Dublin rap gig crowd is far far worse than a Dublin techno crowd. most ravers are ok in my experience. dont think iv ever seen a fight at a techno gig in Dublin.

Really I seen plenty as well as two stabbings when working Dublin and Cork clubs back in the late 90s and 2000's.

12-06-2020 11:53PM

L1011 wrote: »

Welcome to the Dublin crowd.

Realistically never had the same scumbag % audience even outside Dublin.

Cork wasn't far behind in my experience.

L1011 · 12-06-2020 11:56PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Cork wasn't far behind in my experience.

Never had any trouble in Cork, but I saw plenty of knives being dumped when it was obvious there was proper frisking in Dublin.

Regardless, the same problem simply doesn't exist outside of Ireland at similar events. And even though you'd get a big Irish contingent at some of them, those who bring knives to gigs don't generally travel to see the same abroad.

pgj2015 · 12-06-2020 11:56PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Really I seen plenty as well as two stabbings when working Dublin and Cork clubs back in the late 90s and 2000's.

sure you could get that anywhere in fairness. I doubt dance music is to blame. It could happen at a Daniel O Donnell gig just as easy, well maybe not.

13-06-2020 12:07AM

L1011 wrote: »

Never had any trouble in Cork, but I saw plenty of knives being dumped when it was obvious there was proper frisking in Dublin.

Regardless, the same problem simply doesn't exist outside of Ireland at similar events. And even though you'd get a big Irish contingent at some of them, those who bring knives to gigs don't generally travel to see the same abroad.

Depends where you went in Cork I suppose, also having a Dublin accent didn't help at times ðŸ˜€

Used to get a lot of it in England according to mates from over there, but then again some of the door staff carried over there at the time especially in the rougher clubs and the underground ones.

Thankfully only worked stores and the occasional night on a pub in Glasgow for a while and never clubs.

13-06-2020 12:08AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

sure you could get that anywhere in fairness. I doubt dance music is to blame. It could happen at a Daniel O Donnell gig just as easy, well maybe not.

No music isn't to blame, arseholes are and they are universal.

the_syco · 13-06-2020 12:49AM

Seanachai wrote: »

I wonder sometimes if the push to legalise drugs is people in their 30's-50's wanting pharma-grade substances because they can't handle the harsh comedowns anymore.

They want pharma-grade highs without having career-ending convictions.

screamer wrote: »

I don’t much care what pisscats do with their lives, if all they have to make love to is a pint glass so be it. Most of us don’t want to end up that way, and thankfully most of us don’t.

Having worked in a pub as a lounge boy for a while about 10-15 years ago, I found the regulars who were in in between 17:00 and 20:00 don't really have anywhere else to go. They'd come in, read their newspaper in peace whilst having a pint, and then go home. A couple would come in for literally two or three pints over the space of two hours after work, and then go home.

Then you'd have the group of elderly gents who'd come in for the Guinness at around 21:00 and stay until close. Again, they do it for the social aspect. They leave, and go home.

The above would sometimes not be in on Sundays, but would for the rest of the week.

The pisscats as you call them would be at another bar, and would keep each other company. From talking to the lounge staff there, said pisscats do not have anything else going for them but drinking.

DubInMeath wrote: »

Had a great uncle that fitted the bill, lost his family over it, and his mates in the pub disappeared when the money did, but was always having a great time according to himself.

With the blackouts and memory loss that follow alcoholism, he'll probably only remember the good times.

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I honestly think more young people are becoming dry because there is more to do now. It's a lot more socially acceptable to game online with friends now, and that being into sport and keeping the body fit is a good thing.

As opposed to when I was 18, when 90% of the people I knew drank, smoked, and drink was attached to every social and sporting activity you'd do.

Airyfairy12 · 13-06-2020 04:14AM

I wouldnt say they become dry but they grow out of it, just like how you grow out of watching cartoons, people tend to like different things at different stages in their life and their interests and what they consider to be fun changes as they get older. In my teenage years to mid 20's I could go for days drinking, a sober weekend would be a worst nightmare, the idea of that now would bore me to tears and a rave or drinking holiday to Ibiza? I would literally rather slit my wrists. People change.

ILoveYourVibes · 13-06-2020 05:02AM

People who party are dry....imo....little imagination. Its all so obvious.

To me THAT is a sign of age rather than youth ...to drink a lot party a lot ...a sign you are getting older.

Bobblehats · 13-06-2020 09:54AM

Booze is like nitro to me, rocket fuel. Soon as I get a few into me it’s like somebody lit the blue touch paper I just can’t stop dancing to the rock n roll and when we take it back to somebody’s house and there’s a bottle of wine or spirits on display, soon as the cans run out watch out I’ll tap into those reserves for more high octane hijinks.

Risingshadoo · 13-06-2020 10:00AM

Look, as you get older, you get used to having heat.

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 10:14AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

People who party are dry....imo....little imagination. Its all so obvious.

To me THAT is a sign of age rather than youth ...to drink a lot party a lot ...a sign you are getting older.

im talking about older people who stop partying all together, not some mad lunatic who drinks and goes out every night of the week.

eviltwin · 13-06-2020 11:22AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

im talking about older people who stop partying all together, not some mad lunatic who drinks and goes out every night of the week.

Priorities change as you get older. I love a night out but it’s harder to tie people down to it so the massive sessions tend only to happen once or twice a year now and when they do we go places we can actually sit and talk. I do enjoy them when they happen but I don’t miss them when they don’t.

completedit · 13-06-2020 01:10PM

Few things. It's not socially acceptable. We are the offspring of a generation who bridged the gap between the past whereby people were settled down by 21 and the modern generation of delayed adolescence. So even though the reality has changed(you don't have kids at 30 yet) you still conform to the accepted norms of the older generation. As more and more of your mates start to frown upon it, everyone else just starts agreeing that night outs are boring and before long, the days of sessioning are over. Happened with my generation who are late 20's. Suddenly, they just wanted to go to boring hipster bars.

It's all been done before. The excitement of a night on the sauce loses it's appeal once you've done it so many times.

People generally become duller and more conservative as they get older. People often tend to drift away from their friends once they have families.

Rodney Bathgate · 13-06-2020 01:14PM

Nothing wrong with a dry sh1te. Saves on toilet paper.

FHFM50 · 13-06-2020 01:18PM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

People have always settled down young, it was only around the mid 80s to now that people are waiting until their late 30s to settle and then realise all the downsides that come with that.

Could you elaborate on the downsides of settling in late 30's?

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 01:58PM

I remember looking at a house to live when I was starting college, there were 3 lads living in the house, they had just graduated, all around 22 or 23. was having a good chat with one of the lads, he said I mean im 22 I have to start thinking about settling down now, I was thinking, is this guy serious? fcukin ejit. He was a Dub, I find Dubs settle down very young compared to other Irish people.

danois · 13-06-2020 02:04PM

Most of my mates are still into raves and club nights. A group of us still head over to creamfields. Was raging when it was cancelled but hopefully 2021 will be the year of the festival. Love a good old skool night out. Rave to Grave is my motto

My kids are all old enough to come with me now only one actually will tho haha

Homelander · 13-06-2020 02:08PM

I'm in my 30's and I'm still well up for a good session, as are most of my friends though admittedly a trip to Ibiza wouldn't be something I'd chase, though I wouldn't say no either.

A late bar, or a night in playing board games/watching movies/video games until the early hours hits the spot perfectly.

I don't find the hangovers worse at all either, in fact quite the opposite really, but I suspect for some a part of it as you get older is having to deal with kids or other commitments on your time off that really amplify the feeling.

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 02:09PM

danois wrote: »

Most of my mates are still into raves and club nights. A group of us still head over to creamfields. Was raging when it was cancelled but hopefully 2021 will be the year of the festival. Love a good old skool night out. Rave to Grave is my motto My kids are all old enough to come with me now only one actually will tho haha

Nice one. I met these people while working on a night last year. a group of men and women from id say 23-48, all ravers. really sound group, one of them told me if I was ever stuck for anyone to go to Ibiza with to contact them. That is why I am surprised about the stories about rough people with knives at techno gigs, I have always found ravers to be sound in general, even a rough house party full of ravers, iv never seen any fighting.

danois · 13-06-2020 02:11PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

Nice one. I met these people while working on a night last year. a group of men and women from id say 23-48, all ravers. really sound group, one of them told me if I was ever stuck for anyone to go to Ibiza with to contact them. That is why I am surprised about the stories about rough people with knives at techno gigs, I have always found ravers to be sound in general, even a rough house party full of ravers, iv never seen any fighting.

Never seen a fight at any event or club I’ve been too oh actually I did I’m lying I seen one fight at creamfields but it was the year stormzy played and it was at his arena so not rave related.

There’s a group on Facebook called creamfields social and then have an Irish creamfields page too. Always plenty of events and meet-ups. Plenty of people come to events solo and then end up joining the rave family/community. Best mates you will ever make.

13-06-2020 02:12PM

Once the knees go you’re done.

Strumms · 13-06-2020 02:16PM

The Mighty Quinn wrote: »

If I'm being entirely honest, there are brief moments when I do feel a pang for the days of casual sex and the chase..

I don’t know why, but when I read this the Benny Hill theme tune popped into my head.

lalababa · 13-06-2020 02:34PM

There is alot of activities esp. aimed (culturally/peer pressured)at younger people that they feel the need to participate. Watch the old people and see what they do. They have experience and wisdom. You won't see any old people at nightclubs every Saturday night. Why is this? Is it because they are 'past it' or just don't like shouting at and being shouted at by drunken idiots?
Alot of my aquaintances feel they need to go to certain raves/gigs in the year just to say yeah I'm cool. It's really like teenagers trying to impress or fit in. That said there is the odd one that actually enjoys raves/3 day festivals.
Back to the old people..alot of them enjoy gardening or going for rambles.
There would be alot of under 35s who'd do the same thing if they weren't accused of being uncool or dead. Tis a funny auld world we live in.

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 02:39PM

lalababa wrote: »

There is alot of activities esp. aimed (culturally/peer pressured)at younger people that they feel the need to participate. Watch the old people and see what they do. They have experience and wisdom. You won't see any old people at nightclubs every Saturday night. Why is this? Is it because they are 'past it' or just don't like shouting at and being shouted at by drunken idiots?
Alot of my aquaintances feel they need to go to certain raves/gigs in the year just to say yeah I'm cool. It's really like teenagers trying to impress or fit in. That said there is the odd one that actually enjoys raves/3 day festivals.
Back to the old people..alot of them enjoy gardening or going for rambles.
There would be alot of under 35s who'd do the same thing if they weren't accused of being uncool or dead. Tis a funny auld world we live in.

I suppose it takes all sorts but like you are better off partying in your 30's than regretting not partying enough when you are 80. I dont go to gigs as much as I once did but like what is not to love? night out, good music, hanging out with friends, chatting strangers, pulling women etc

I like gardening as well but I liked that since I was around 10, not because im older now and I wouldnt care who knew.

KiKi III · 13-06-2020 02:42PM

Nothing sadder than a solitary 40 year old who hasn’t grown up at a college party.

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 02:44PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Nothing sadder than a solitary 40 year old who hasn’t grown up at a college party.

Nothing sadder than being closed minded like yourself.

Sam Hain · 13-06-2020 02:47PM

danois wrote: »

Most of my mates are still into raves and club nights. A group of us still head over to creamfields. Was raging when it was cancelled but hopefully 2021 will be the year of the festival. Love a good old skool night out. Rave to Grave is my motto My kids are all old enough to come with me now only one actually will tho haha

That would be down to embarrassment.

Why do so many people become dry so young?

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