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  • #3062
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Yes: homemade
    ginoginelli wrote: »
    Another hit piece on masks from rte news and George lee there. Propagating erroneous and out of date information of date as per usual.

    They are doing a fantastic job in convincing people NOT to wear them.
    And incidentally this absurd conversation we are conducting here in Ireland
    is simply not mirrored anywhere else in the world where the efficacy of mask wearing has been pretty much accepted.


  • #3063
    railer201
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Yes: valved
    hellomyfriends wrote: »
    Irish people dont want to look stupid so wont wear masks. End of conversation.

    Some hill to possibly die on or someone belonging to you.


  • #3064
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    hellomyfriends wrote: »
    Irish people dont want to look stupid so wont wear masks. End of conversation.
    Essentially pretty much yes. Irish culture tends towards both a love/hate of authority, a be grand position and a crippling self consciousness and something like masks will really rub up against the latter. Unless whomever we see as out "betters" these days start to wear or push them more directly.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #3065
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Yes: surgical
    hellomyfriends wrote: »
    Exactly.

    All the talk of the benefits or not benefits is pointless.

    Irish people in general will not wear masks going about daily life.

    Hard to believe some people can't grasp that.

    It's nothing to do with benefits or not or not being able to use them properly as the experts say.

    We simply won't do it.

    Thankfully the virus seems to be reducing anyway without them.


    I think we would have a few months ago if the government and nepht had of advocated for masks, instead of denigrating them.


  • #3066
    Tipperary animal lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭Tipperary animal lover


    Yes: homemade
    Was in dealz in cork today, had the mask on these two ones came in behind me, I stopped and was picking something off a shelf and one of the woman yawned straight into my face and then preceded to cough after, i said ffs cover your mouth and the other one said your grand boy thats smokers cough, i said rev up and f*ck off away from me, sure enough up to the security guard they went mouthing away to him, he came over i told him what happened and he told the two ladies to go on about their business. It just shows ya people dont give two s*its, ill be keeping up with what im doing wearing a mask and shopping early and getting out of dodge for the time been.


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  • #3067
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭McGiver


    No: I don't care enough
    UK makes masks mandatory on public transport starting 15 June.

    Watch the clowns in Dublin copy pasting. Never would have believed that the worst and most incompetent HMG in history would be better than the Irish gov...


  • #3068
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    hellomyfriends wrote: »
    Irish people dont want to look stupid so wont wear masks. End of conversation.

    Wearing masks = look stupid
    Not wearing masks = being stupid


  • #3069
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    hellomyfriends wrote: »
    To be fair our government and health department have done ok.

    The mask wearing is a pointless issue at this stage with the virus so reduced in the community.

    It's unbelievably depressing that this is actually a thought amongst the general population, sorry but it is such a thick notion and it shows how generally stupid people are about this whole thing. So going by your logic here, it's better to wait for it to kick off and head towards spiking again in the community before using them? The whole point of masks is to suppress and keep it suppressed from spreading from random person to random person in the community, so the virus can more easily be traced and isolated when it only spreads amongst friends and family and colleagues that would've been in contact. It is better to take the proactive approach going forward, which is how we should've reacted at the beginning of the virus even being a thing. But no, instead we had people with similar attitudes saying "but there's only 5, 10, 20, 40 etc." cases to people who were calling for action to be taking quicker

    The lockdown was very extreme and its entire purpose was to slow the spreading and reduce its spreading amongst the community. We've successfully done that, at huge economical and emotional cost for many. So going forward it's best to take the preventative approach as much as possible so that those efforts we made are worthwhile and it states suppressed amongst the community, like has been done in so many other INTELLIGENT countries at this stage


  • #3070
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    hellomyfriends wrote: »
    You can talk about it all you want, Irish people will not wear masks.

    Yep, because we are a thick nation. At this point it genuinely does boil down to an intelligence issue. Goes all the way from the leaders at the top right down to the scumbags who'll cough and breathe into people's faces


  • #3071
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Yes: homemade
    Originally Posted by hellomyfriends viewpost.gif
    To be fair our government and health department have done ok.

    The mask wearing is a pointless issue at this stage with the virus so reduced in the community.


    If you follow this logic then social distancing, keeping the pubs and restaurants closed, cough etiquette, hand washing etc., are also pointless.


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  • #3072
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    From the horses mouth tonight:
    RTE
    1.Firstly, there was the major global shortage of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) for frontline health workers, on whom we all depend. Like health authorities everywhere, the HSE was in a panic, scrambling to secure supplies. The National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) certainly did not want the public to buy up the limited face mask supplies that were available, hence they offered no encouragement.

    Typing the phrase offered no encouragement is RTE trying to save face alongside NPHET and HSE. Masks were bashed on RTE television and radio for at least the first 8-9 weeks and even up until yesterday.

    I'm not even going to sink my teeth into their 2nd and 3rd big issues.

    The HSE had to queue behind France and Spain for masks from our only national supplier Irema becuase they reacted so late in the day. Right now there is only 1 machine printing surgical masks in the whole country for domestic consumption. No wonder the Garda have not recieved their stash yet.

    Country is a FCKIN joke


  • #3073
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Yes: homemade
    Posted this a month ago. I wasn't imagining it.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113408507


    130 million masks. 3 months supply at the rate they were using them then.
    About a week ago an importer was interviewed on Prime Time in a warehouse full of masks and he told the reporter that this crap about a shortage of supplies was a load of rubbish.

    https://www.rte.ie/player/series/prime-time/SI0000000825?epguid=IH000382989
    about 8 minutes in.

    At the press briefing on 16th May Tony Holohan said that at the moment the HSE has all they need.


    Yet this myth continues to be peddelled. Does George Lee not watch Prime Time?


  • #3074
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    Seanergy wrote: »
    From the horses mouth tonight:
    RTE



    Typing the phrase offered no encouragement is RTE trying to save face alongside NPHET and HSE. Masks were bashed on RTE television and radio for at least the first 8-9 weeks and even up until yesterday.

    I'm not even going to sink my teeth into their 2nd and 3rd big issues.

    The HSE had to queue behind France and Spain for masks from our only national supplier Irema becuase they reacted so late in the day. Right now there is only 1 machine printing surgical masks in the whole country for domestic consumption. No wonder the Garda have not recieved their stash yet.

    Country is a FCKIN joke

    Wasn't there one lad trying to get a mask manufacturing machine from Germany to start producing and selling them for cost price for the population? He tried to even get working with the HSE but apparently they didn't respond to him. He's from Galway I think

    And this
    The second big issue was that face masks were way down the list of priority actions NPHET wanted the public to embrace to stop the spread of the virus. Hand hygiene, cough etiquette, and physical distancing were always the key actions.

    Hmmm, it's almost as if cough etiquette, a measure which intends to reduce droplets escaping the nose and mouth, serves a different purpose than having people wear something which provides a barrier over their nose and mouth. Hmmm!!!

    Look at the comments section of this. I'm honestly just starting to hate this country and the Irish


  • #3075
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    Arrival wrote: »
    Look at the comments section of this. I'm honestly just starting to hate this country and the Irish
    I wouldn't A. Yes we have a tendency to aim for the middle, oft to the point of blasé mediocrity, but that also means it's generally a nice place to live on a daily basis.
    Me. Earlier. wrote: »
    individuals may be bright, or stupid,or average, the mob is almost always thick and slow to move, except in panic, or when they're told to move.

    The mob thrives on Arsebook. Plus it tends to skew towards Karens of both sexes in suburbia, a particularly doltish lot, but a demographic that will tend to comply while whinging inanities. If authority tells them to do something. That's the weak point and Lord knows we have weak authority. Mainly because it's rarely needed because of our tendency to aim for the middle.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #3076
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Yes: surgical
    Listening to the briefing here and the CMO is talking shíte again re: masks



    Make them mandatory on public transport you idiots!


  • #3077
    bmc58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Yes: valved
    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I've made my own. Don't plan on wearing masks unless I get sick.

    Too late then. Wear a mask for the next few weeks for the good of everyone.Don't be so selfish.


  • #3078
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    No: other
    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Make them mandatory on public transport you idiots!

    You can't make them mandatory as people will have genuine reasons for not wearing them. Jesus it's like the blasphemy law, uninforcable.
    People aren't using them correctly, I work in retail and people are clueless I see it every day. Cleaning your hands has gone out the window as well, they lifted the restrictions too soon. We were so close.


  • #3079
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    No: other
    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    You can't make them mandatory as people will have genuine reasons for not wearing them. Jesus it's like the blasphemy law, uninforcable.
    People aren't using them correctly, I work in retail and people are clueless I see it every day. Cleaning your hands has gone out the window as well, they lifted the restrictions too soon. We were so close.

    We’d 8 cases today. 4.9 million population.


  • #3080
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    9, 9, 18, 8 so far for the week. We’re flying without masks. No chance they’ll be made mandatory. We’re almost in the clear.


  • #3081
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    9, 9, 18, 8 so far for the week. We’re flying without masks. No chance they’ll be made mandatory. We’re almost in the clear.
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I'd be willing to bet €50 to the winners charity that the govt won't be sending masks to every household. As they use facts, not feelings.
    Boggles wrote: »
    The same bet amount for charity, but face coverings / masks will be mandatory on public transport.

    Didn't you say you use public transport several times a day? :)

    Well?


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  • #3082
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Face coverings mandatory on Stena Line ferries from Monday

    Stena ain't fúcking around with their big boats.
    Exceptions will be made for children under three and anyone with an illness or disability that prevents them from wearing one


  • #3083
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    make them mandatory otherwise do not stigmatize people who don't wear them.

    The time to have worn them was late January to the end of March


  • #3084
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    At this stage I won't be wearing a mask.


  • #3085
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    No: other
    Boggles wrote: »
    Face coverings mandatory on Stena Line ferries from Monday

    Stena ain't fúcking around with their big boats.

    One route!!! Your post is misleading.


  • #3086
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    One route!!! Your post is misleading.

    My post? :confused:

    You mean the article? I didn't write it.

    But no, it's not one route.

    https://www.stenaline.ie/faqs/coronavirus-advice/do-i-need-to-wear-a-facemask


  • #3087
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    bmc58 wrote: »
    Too late then. Wear a mask for the next few weeks for the good of everyone.Don't be so selfish.

    I wrote this back in March. I changed my thinking on masks since then.


  • #3088
    granturismo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭granturismo


    No: other
    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Listening to the briefing here and the CMO is talking shíte again re: masks

    Make them mandatory on public transport you idiots!

    Mandatory on Dutch public transport for at least the past week.


  • #3089
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    Story in America where two hair stylists with Covid19, their doctor said they had allergies, saw 140 clients but wore masks at work anyway. None of their 140 clients got infected. All clients they saw were asked to isolate, 46 were tested and were negative, the others had twice daily phone calls from health officials asking if they showed symptoms. None of them showed symptoms.


  • #3090
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    Our numbers are low, don't we have a chance to crush this now? Maybe with the use of face masks?


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  • #3091
    Neamhshuntasach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Yes: surgical
    Seems they really really want people to wear masks where social distancing is difficult (public transport, shops, etc). But they just can't out their finger on what they need to do to have people wearing them in those environments.

    Surely there is some legal way of enforcing the use of masks on public transport and shops. No mask and no boarding/entry. People will soon start wearing them. You'd want to be some knob head to pretend you've one of the conditions that prevent the wearing of them when you don't have it.

    And who gives a ****e if they're not 100% protective or give a bit of a sense of false security. I'd rather have someone with Covid occasionally fiddle with their mask and breathe into it while I'm wearing one than them not wearing one at all.


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