George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

weldoninhio · 11-06-2020 02:01PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so shouting abuse at a cop is ok but talking to one deserves a physical response?

He's not shouting at a cop. Hes between 2 cops shouting into the council chamber. There is no law against shouting.

BorneTobyWilde · 11-06-2020 02:05PM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Apologies if it was posted already..

"Thomas Keirnan Lane, one of the four former Minneapolis police officers charged in the alleged murder of George Floyd, is out of jail. Hennepin County records show that Lane bonded out Wednesday afternoon."

"Lane was hired by the department in February 2019. His attorney, Earl Gray, has said Lane had only been on active duty for four days as of the incident. Because of that, Gray argued, it was “unreasonable” to expect Lane to attempt to remove Chauvin’s leg from Floyd’s neck. The lawyer also asserted that Lane asked Chauvin if Floyd should be rolled over and that Lane tried to perform CPR on Floyd in the ambulance.

“What was my client supposed to do but follow what his training officer said?” Gray said. “Is that aiding and abetting a crime?”

"Minneapolis police policies require “every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required.”

https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/thomas-lane-one-of-four-ex-cops-charged-in-george-floyds-death-is-out-of-jail/?utm_source=mostpopular

Where did he get the million to bail himself, all so shady.

ohnonotgmail · 11-06-2020 02:05PM

Odhinn wrote: »

It appears to be largely bollocksology

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/09/trump-gugino-tweet/

none of that will make a blind bit of difference to walshb or notobtuse.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 11-06-2020 02:08PM

"Will the criminal case against Derek Chauvin go to trial? A prosecutor’s office has revealed that there were actually plea negotiations before Chauvin was even arrested in the death of George Floyd. Clearly, those negotiations fell apart."

https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/ex-cop-charged-with-murder-in-george-floyd-case-was-in-plea-negotiations-before-his-arrest-prosecutors-office-reveals/

Why does this have a big wiff of dodgy as fcuk off it? Trying to negotiate a plea based off no charge..

shaveAbullock · 11-06-2020 02:09PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Where did he get the million to bail himself, all so shady.

Does that city allow bail bonds? If so he would only have to come up with $100k

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 11-06-2020 02:10PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Where did he get the million to bail himself, all so shady.

Family I would guess or maybe the good old police union?
I think all lawyers are being paid by the police I read last week. Think it was one of the local news sites reported it.

yourdeadwright · 11-06-2020 02:13PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

none of that will make a blind bit of difference to walshb or notobtuse.

It seems you can't comprehend what Walsh B has been saying , Whatever he was ,what ever done or didn't do before that day is just padding to the story ,
In that moment he refused to listen to numerous police instructions and done the opposite and walk towards them ,

He lack of common sense lead to the incident, yes of course the police action are also involved but all could have be avoided by him,

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 11-06-2020 02:14PM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Does that city allow bail bonds? If so he would only have to come up with $100k

$750,000 was the posted bail.

ohnonotgmail · 11-06-2020 02:14PM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Does that city allow bail bonds? If so he would only have to come up with $100k

plus security for the other 900K. probably one or more homes at that level.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 11-06-2020 02:15PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

It seems you can't comprehend what Walsh B has been saying , Whatever he was ,what ever done or didn't do before that day is just padding to the story ,
In that moment he refused to listen to numerous police instructions and done the opposite and walk towards them ,

He lack of common sense lead to the incident, yes of course the police action are also involved but all could have be avoided by him,

BUT... Could also be avoided by arresting him!

ohnonotgmail · 11-06-2020 02:15PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

It seems you can't comprehend what Walsh B has been saying , Whatever he was ,what ever done or didn't do before that day is just padding to the story ,
In that moment he refused to listen to numerous police instructions and done the opposite and walk towards them ,

He lack of common sense lead to the incident, yes of course the police action are also involved but all could have be avoided by him,

both promoted the theory that he as trying to jam police communications. a theory that is nonsense. but that will not stop them continuing to promote it.

yourdeadwright · 11-06-2020 02:21PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

both promoted the theory that he as trying to jam police communications. a theory that is nonsense. but that will not stop them continuing to promote it.

Ye quite possible is nonsense but makes no difference to the facts of the story,

Does beg the question what was he doing with his hand ,He makes the same odd movement a few times towards the police mans waist and his eye line is also looking down there even as he is pushed his hand goes back to the same movement with the phone ,

Does any one know what he was actually up to ? did he say ?

Overheal · 11-06-2020 02:22PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Where did he get the million to bail himself, all so shady.

Iirc the bail system (in addition to being a fcuked system) only requires you to pay a portion up front.

ohnonotgmail · 11-06-2020 02:22PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Ye quite possible is nonsense but makes no difference to the facts of the story,

Does beg the question what was he doing with his hand ,He makes the same odd movement a few times towards the police mans waist and his eye line is also looking down there even as he is pushed his hand goes back to the same movement with the phone ,

Does any one know what he was actually up to ? did he say ?

and now you are at it as well. doing your best to justify the violent response from police

Overheal · 11-06-2020 02:23PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

It seems you can't comprehend what Walsh B has been saying , Whatever he was ,what ever done or didn't do before that day is just padding to the story ,
In that moment he refused to listen to numerous police instructions and done the opposite and walk towards them ,

He lack of common sense lead to the incident, yes of course the police action are also involved but all could have be avoided by him,

How much time in seconds was there between the order and the refusal?

walshb · 11-06-2020 02:23PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you dont seem to get sarcasm either. and just to be clear i was mocking your posts when i wrote that.

Of course I got it...

I was just jossing with you...

Overheal · 11-06-2020 02:25PM

walshb wrote: »

Of course I got it...

I was just kissing with you...

Oh my

walshb · 11-06-2020 02:25PM

Overheal wrote: »

Oh my

Stop. Bloody typo...😅

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 11-06-2020 02:25PM

walshb wrote: »

Of course I got it...

I was just kissing with you...

Get a room, no PDAs here please

ohnonotgmail · 11-06-2020 02:26PM

Overheal wrote: »

Oh my

tell me about it. i nearly threw up in my mouth.

walshb · 11-06-2020 02:26PM

Overheal wrote: »

How much time in seconds was there between the order and the refusal?

More goal posts moving and excuses and blaming everyone but the actual person responsible, the falling man.

Overheal · 11-06-2020 02:28PM

walshb wrote: »

More goal posts moving and excuses and blaming everyone but the actual person responsible, the falling man.

It’s a simple question. How much time between the order and the refusal? Oh, no time? How inconvenient for those defending this indefensible act of violence. It’s no wonder you would deflect away from that.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 11-06-2020 02:30PM

walshb wrote: »

More goal posts moving and excuses and blaming everyone but the actual person responsible, the falling man.

Pushed!.

This discussion is gone beyond the realms of reason.

There's blame on the man walking up, there is blame on the cops for choosing the push and not arrest.

Accidents happen, to die on a hill of its all one or the other is stupid as fcuk.

yourdeadwright · 11-06-2020 02:34PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and now you are at it as well. doing your best to justify the violent response from police

I'm not at anything iv no idea what he was doing , I'm asking has there been any explanation to it ,

walshb · 11-06-2020 02:35PM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Pushed!.

This discussion is gone beyond the realms of reason.

There's blame on the man walking up, there is blame on the cops for choosing the push and not arrest.

Accidents happen, to die on a hill of its all one or the other is stupid as fcuk.

Fair play. This is reason..

I’ll go with this, as it is pointless going back and forth all day..

yourdeadwright · 11-06-2020 02:35PM

Overheal wrote: »

It’s a simple question. How much time between the order and the refusal? Oh, no time? How inconvenient for those defending this indefensible act of violence. It’s no wonder you would deflect away from that.

Its impossible to tell because we only have one 5 second clip ,

walshb · 11-06-2020 02:37PM

Overheal wrote: »

It’s a simple question. How much time between the order and the refusal? Oh, no time? How inconvenient for those defending this indefensible act of violence. It’s no wonder you would deflect away from that.

Simple question. But not a simple answer for us keyboard warriors here in Ireland..

So, just assume that the cops didn’t push him for no good reason..

The video shows what happened...the man created the incident. He started it..

Retr0gamer · 11-06-2020 02:41PM

walshb wrote: »

Simple question. But not a simple answer for us keyboard warriors here in Ireland..

So, just assume that the cops didn’t push him for no good reason..

The video shows what happened...the man created the incident. He started it..

There's no good reason to push anyone in any profession. Law enforcement or otherwise. It quite clearly wasn't self defense. It's assault. Plain and simple and on camera. The police have no authority to push some one as that is assault. And as a police office he would have been trained and knows this. It's negligence.

I'm sorry but you can't argue it wasnt.

Overheal · 11-06-2020 02:41PM

walshb wrote: »

Simple question. But not a simple answer for us keyboard warriors here in Ireland..

So, just assume that the cops didn’t push him for no good reason..

The video shows what happened...the man created the incident. He started it..

No I’d say the police started it by assembling the gang of jackboots, but who started it is the last defense of a childs argument. If the man really “started something” he would have been charged with a misdemeanor or felony. Yet, no charges were filed, so that’s a bust. Clearly the officers couldn’t identify anything illegal that the gentlemen did.

mynamejeff · 11-06-2020 02:45PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's no good reason to push anyone in any profession. Law enforcement or otherwise. It quite clearly wasn't self defense. It's assault. Plain and simple and on camera. The police have no authority to push some one as that is assault. And as a police office he would have been trained and knows this. It's negligence.

I'm sorry but you can't argue it wasnt.

your are not correct.

if some one refuses to move minimal force can and should be used

George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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