FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Coopie · 08-06-2020 06:59PM

Can someone tell me when does the in office training start when you undertake the PPC Hybrid Course?

BugsySiegel · 08-06-2020 10:58PM

Hey folks, this has probably been dealt with in earlier posts but it's easier to ask than trawl through them. With regard to the sittings of EU and Tort in August is it permissible for a candidate to sit one or both of these having never sat an FE 1 before. I am going to be sitting 4 or 5 in October but I like the idea of getting one of the big ones out of the way a month earlier if that's an option.

sunnylegal · 08-06-2020 11:10PM

BugsySiegel wrote: »

Hey folks, this has probably been dealt with in earlier posts but it's easier to ask than trawl through them. With regard to the sittings of EU and Tort in August is it permissible for a candidate to sit one or both of these having never sat an FE 1 before. I am going to be sitting 4 or 5 in October but I like the idea of getting one of the big ones out of the way a month earlier if that's an option.

Yeah it’s open to those eligible to do their first sitting

Debarramike137 · 08-06-2020 11:26PM

Hi guys. Hope all well. I am looking to sit the 8 exams over the next while but I don’t know where to start. Is a prep course essential? I would like to attempt the August Tort and EU law but I’ve nothing done prep wise. Would study notes suffice to pass do you think? I did two law modules in my degree and found them grand. thanks a lot guys

BugsySiegel · 08-06-2020 11:32PM

Debarramike137 wrote: »

Hi guys. Hope all well. I am looking to sit the 8 exams over the next while but I don’t know where to start. Is a prep course essential? I would like to attempt the August Tort and EU law but I’ve nothing done prep wise. Would study notes suffice to pass do you think? I did two law modules in my degree and found them grand. thanks a lot guys

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Hey, I'm studying for my first sitting at the moment but I know a lot of people who have done all or some of them. A prep course is my no means essential. From what I can see the majority of people don't do one.
Its depends on what you mean by study notes. Do you have the manuals for the subjects you intend on sitting? Tort and EU are two of the longer subjects so it might be worth considering not doing them in the same sitting. EU and Constitutional seem be regarded as the most difficult but the pass rate in EU is actually very high. In or around 80% in some sittings.

Spreece · 09-06-2020 12:40AM

BugsySiegel wrote: »

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Hey, I'm studying for my first sitting at the moment but I know a lot of people who have done all or some of them. A prep course is my no means essential. From what I can see the majority of people don't do one.
Its depends on what you mean by study notes. Do you have the manuals for the subjects you intend on sitting? Tort and EU are two of the longer subjects so it might be worth considering not doing them in the same sitting. EU and Constitutional seem be regarded as the most difficult but the pass rate in EU is actually very high. In or around 80% in some sittings.

I sat three exams (company, contract and property) in March. They were my first exams since 1999 (I’m old). I bought summary notes on-line and bought the past papers and reports from the law Society.

The exams are formulaic. Topics are rotated in a predictable pattern. You typically need 5 bullet points per topic with at least one supporting case for each point. The exam tests memory as much as understanding.

I passed all three which were on consecutive days. I scraped through the first two and had plenty to spare in property which I know from my work experience.

Don’t buy the expensive text books. Buy notes online and the past papers and reports and cram for about three days per subject plus an all nighter before each exam. Don’t listen to the legal insiders who constantly go on about how hard they are, they’re not hard. Follow the formula, aim for 51 in each subject and do no more than 4 at one sitting.

HappyKitten62 · 09-06-2020 02:33PM

Does anyone have an up to date Tort grid? Can exchange things in return! Thanks :-)

john_fe12020 · 09-06-2020 04:51PM

HappyKitten62 wrote: »

Does anyone have an up to date Tort grid? Can exchange things in return! Thanks :-)

Pm me your email

Lallers96 · 09-06-2020 04:53PM

HappyKitten62 wrote: »

Depends on a few factors. If I were in your situation I’d make sure I chose the lighter subjects for October, eg. Property, Criminal for definite. However EU and constitutional need to be done in two separate sittings, and I’d recommend doing EU first so that leaves you with Property, Criminal and EU for October. If you’re only starting notes for these in mid August, that’s only 6 weeks in total...I don’t think this is enough time.

However, if you were off work or didn’t work at all, I think it would be doable. I took the months of June 2019 to May 2020 off. I passed all my exams and am just waiting to do tort in August.

It’s a personal choice. You could potentially give 2 weeks to each subject ... but I don’t think it’s worth the insane amount of stress the week before they start in October.

Maybe sit 2 in October - then you’ll have 5 for the following March, which is a lot, but if you had all your notes done by January you’d be sorted!

This seems like the most reasonable course of action. I will aim to get Tort notes and study done as early as possible and spend some time on the easier of the remaining 7 e.g. Property, Contract, Criminal to try and get a headstart on the October sitting as it's quite soon after this August one. Probably might do 2 in October and aim to have at least 3 done in total before March 2020. Do the leftover subjects then and try to give it a fair crack in March.

Katniss1998 · 09-06-2020 08:59PM

Does anyone have a copy of the Examiner's Report for Tort March 2019? I have materials for all subjects so happy to send something on in exchange

steveeq · 09-06-2020 10:59PM

I’ve heard some colleges are sending out PDF’s rather than hard copy manuals this year.
Just wondering is this true? My printer would die!

CMUL · 10-06-2020 07:41AM

I am waiting on lawschool manuals so they are and I didnt receive a PDF

CarrigView · 10-06-2020 11:50AM

Would anyone who scored 60%+ in the last sitting of contract be willing to share the PDF of their answer booklet if they received it from the law society under GDPR? I barely scraped a pass but thought I had wrote a better answer than that, just wondering what separates my answer from a better one for future exams. Have materials for most other subjects bar Constitutional so may have something to offer in return.

Cheers

Twinings2016 · 10-06-2020 12:49PM

Hi all,

Does anyone know what the procedure is with re-checks?

Is it the external examiner that re-checks the entire script or do they just tally up the marks again?

And do people only go up if there is a mistake when adding the final marks per answer?

It was just the internal examiner that checked my script, so hoping for some sort of miracle. I know I'm clutching at straws, but just out of curiosity, would be interesting to know regardless.

Thanks!

Breacnua · 10-06-2020 10:09PM

CarrigView wrote: »

Would anyone who scored 60%+ in the last sitting of contract be willing to share the PDF of their answer booklet if they received it from the law society under GDPR? I barely scraped a pass but thought I had wrote a better answer than that, just wondering what separates my answer from a better one for future exams. Have materials for most other subjects bar Constitutional so may have something to offer in return.

Cheers

if you have passed i wouldnt worry about the standard for other subjects as they all have their style. The main thing is that you show you understand the materal, answer thr question that was asked and know any changes in the law, recent case law helps too if you can. in Contract she is very percise with her questions and if its not answered the exact way she wants she won't throw marks at you. Honestly, having passed it, I would focus on what is ahead of you.

CarrigView · 10-06-2020 10:22PM

Breacnua wrote: »

if you have passed i wouldnt worry about the standard for other subjects as they all have their style. The main thing is that you show you understand the materal, answer thr question that was asked and know any changes in the law, recent case law helps too if you can. in Contract she is very percise with her questions and if its not answered the exact way she wants she won't throw marks at you. Honestly, having passed it, I would focus on what is ahead of you.

Ya that's a fair point, was thinking just as much, maybe I was just unlucky in this case, I possibly could have been behind on recent developments even. No point dwelling on the past too much I suppose, happy to have it behind me at least. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated!

rightytighty · 11-06-2020 01:45PM

Did anyone apply for the internship with the department of foreign affairs?

CMUL · 11-06-2020 03:41PM

LS website is saying details of the results for the March 2020 FE-1 rechecks will be published tomorrow, does that mean the results are going to be published? Does the site crash for the rechecks as well? Is anyone still awaiting their scripts? I only sent my request for recheck last week

channing90 · 11-06-2020 04:21PM

rightytighty wrote: »

Did anyone apply for the internship with the department of foreign affairs?

Yeah I applied and have heard nothing back.

channing90 · 11-06-2020 04:22PM

CMUL wrote: »

LS website is saying details of the results for the March 2020 FE-1 rechecks will be published tomorrow, does that mean the results are going to be published? Does the site crash for the rechecks as well? Is anyone still awaiting their scripts? I only sent my request for recheck last week

I just received the copy of my scripts today.

rightytighty · 11-06-2020 06:41PM

channing90 wrote: »

Yeah I applied and have heard nothing back.

Thanks for the reply! In the same boat, has been 4 weeks as of tomorrow. I know times are strange but they still opened the competition, weird. I think public sector recruitment is known to take a bit longer in fairness

Debarramike137 · 11-06-2020 10:10PM

BugsySiegel wrote: »

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Hey, I'm studying for my first sitting at the moment but I know a lot of people who have done all or some of them. A prep course is my no means essential. From what I can see the majority of people don't do one.
Its depends on what you mean by study notes. Do you have the manuals for the subjects you intend on sitting? Tort and EU are two of the longer subjects so it might be worth considering not doing them in the same sitting. EU and Constitutional seem be regarded as the most difficult but the pass rate in EU is actually very high. In or around 80% in some sittings.

Thanks so much. I actually don’t have any of the manuals..where can I get them please? Is Law Hero any good? I guess I would love to study the notes and get a good pass..I did some Law modules in my undergrad a few years ago . Thanks so much

Debarramike137 · 11-06-2020 10:13PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

This seems like the most reasonable course of action. I will aim to get Tort notes and study done as early as possible and spend some time on the easier of the remaining 7 e.g. Property, Contract, Criminal to try and get a headstart on the October sitting as it's quite soon after this August one. Probably might do 2 in October and aim to have at least 3 done in total before March 2020. Do the leftover subjects then and try to give it a fair crack in March.

Thanks a lot. I’ve watched the videos on Law hero..seems ok. There’s a guy on Adverts.ie with notes, good feedback. I’m going to go with him and get 4. Anything else I Should do? A bit freaked at the thought of it lol thanks so much

naraic27 · 12-06-2020 11:01AM

Quick question re Torts. What statutes can we bring into the exam? Trying to work out if we're expected to learn off the Defective Products Act definitions.

lawgrad49 · 12-06-2020 11:42AM

naraic27 wrote: »

Quick question re Torts. What statutes can we bring into the exam? Trying to work out if we're expected to learn off the Defective Products Act definitions.

Don't think you can bring any Statutes into the Tort exam, based on syllabus and the last guidelines for March: https://www.lawsociety.ie/globalassets/documents/education/fe-1/legislativesources.pdf

Coulter97 · 12-06-2020 01:00PM

Does anybody think firms will reduce their trainee intake for future years now?

LJones18 · 12-06-2020 01:21PM

Hi,

Could anyone send me the exam grid for Company law?

Any other material for studying for company law would be great too!

Thanks

naraic27 · 12-06-2020 01:58PM

lawgrad49 wrote: »

Don't think you can bring any Statutes into the Tort exam, based on syllabus and the last guidelines for March:

Cheers. Thought this was the case but wanted to make sure

Iso_123 · 12-06-2020 03:38PM

hi, has anybody received their results letter from the March sitting yet? still no sign for me!

I also wanted to ask whether anybody who has been in contact with the Law Society knows when the timetable for the October exam would be available? I'm doing a prep course which started last week and have signed up for company but i'm trying to wait on the timetable to pick the rest of my subjects! (didn't do law for my undergrad)

BugsySiegel · 12-06-2020 04:26PM

Hey folks, can anyone help me out with any or all of the below;

1 grid for EU.
2 casenotes for EU
3 sample answers for EU.

Happy to pay for the casenotes/sample answers.

Thanks

FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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