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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    prunudo wrote: »
    Don't forget Rte, they're thriving off the doom and gloom. Just witnessed the most depressing 2m socially distanced reunion between a grandfather and his grandkids on the 9 oclock news.
    Hug your grandkids and loved ones, we have to stop this nonsense, god knows what tomorrow will bring.

    How much of their revenue is coming from Covid 19 PR?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I think humidity plays a big role in the transmission of this disease.

    In sunshine and low humidity its transmission appears very limited

    It's in moist clammy buses and trains and similar settings it gets hold.

    North Italy is a prime example of a high humidity location in late winter.

    There is little doubt the good weather here played a critical role is bringing our infection rate down so dramatically

    Would be a good thesis for somebody, but almost impossible to prove causation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    You could also use "lockdown merchants", "mouth-breathers" or whatever current term the self styled "cool kids" on these forums have latched onto at the moment.

    Don’t forget the “ cut throat razor “ one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    hmmm wrote: »
    This thread is hilarious. Where do you lot hang out normally?

    From hugging grandparents left right and centre in the middle of a pandemic, to believing that shops will be full if we simply close our eyes and ignore everything, to some form of religious vision that a virus will never come back - and most of all a belief that you're all right and everyone else is wrong. It's just a riot of self-delusion.

    Id say back into lockdown Straight away. That hugging thing must be stopped


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    This thread is hilarious. Where do you lot hang out normally?

    From hugging grandparents left right and centre in the middle of a pandemic, to believing that shops will be full if we simply close our eyes and ignore everything, to some form of religious vision that a virus will never come back - and most of all a belief that you're all right and everyone else is wrong. It's just a riot of self-delusion.

    9 cases of a mild illness today. We should be fully open with no restrictions at all.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    hmmm wrote: »
    This thread is hilarious. Where do you lot hang out normally?

    From hugging grandparents left right and centre in the middle of a pandemic, to believing that shops will be full if we simply close our eyes and ignore everything, to some form of religious vision that a virus will never come back - and most of all a belief that you're all right and everyone else is wrong. It's just a riot of self-delusion.

    Indeed but it does get tedious after a while to read the same seemingly never ending inane ****e being repeated constantly. May I suggest to you it might be worthwhile to consider doing what I have now decided to do here and make use of the ignore button.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    9 cases of a mild illness today. We should be fully open with no restrictions at all.

    No This is a serious illness. I dont think anyone here is looking for a full opening.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    rooney30 wrote: »
    This face mask wearing debate is a bit of a red herring if you ask me . The fact is , infection rates are falling off a cliff all around western Europe , despite lockdowns being lifted . Is this because everybody has been a good boy /girl and kept their social distance ? I don’t think so .
    Something else is at play here that science has yet to explain . Is it burning out , mutating to become weaker ,less transmissible , who knows ? Is there a seasonal effect ? Who knows ? We might never know.
    What we should do is ,ride this wave ,open our economy up ASAP and stay vigilant
    The second wave brigade need to take a few Xanax for now, the tide is against ye in the short to medium term at least

    For all our sakes I hope the tide will stay turned but I have serious doubts that it will.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    snowcat wrote: »
    No This is a serious illness. I dont think anyone here is looking for a full opening.

    Really? Are you serious?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    ixoy wrote: »
    Very interesting article from the BBC: Why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus

    It covers a range of issues - ones such as famine in poorer countries, health screenings, mental health, and a lot more. Well worth a read.

    Comparisons between some country's excess mortality rates in a few months/a year will be interesting, for example venezuela with a long lockdown that almost completely prevented an outbreak,and Brazil where it is almost completely unmitigated. Probably the two most contrasting policies between two border nations in the world


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    Indeed but it does get tedious after a while to read the same seemingly never ending inane ****e being repeated constantly. May I suggest to you it might be worthwhile to consider doing what I have now decided to do here and make use of the ignore button.

    3 months of non-stop doom and pessimism from you is fairly tedious too.
    Even today on the other thread with the announcement of 9 new cases, your first port of call was that it was after a weekend and therefore not a true picture. Of course, in that you were unsurprisingly wrong.

    At least the "relax it" crew are sometimes right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    This post works if you substitute "twitchers " with " whingers " too, lol.

    LOL indeed. Substitute in whatever you like. We will see in a month or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    snowcat wrote: »
    No This is a serious illness. I dont think anyone here is looking for a full opening.

    Yes but I’d want evidence that a full closure has had any great effect at all, bar bankrupting the nation. Many elements of lockdown have been hysterically over the top and did nothing to do with the virus. In future of this type of lockdown is to the ever happen again (I doubt it will btw) we need far better actual evidence not whims


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Jackman25 wrote: »
    3 months of non-stop doom and pessimism from you is fairly tedious too.
    Even today on the other thread with the announcement of 9 new cases, your first port of call was that it was after a weekend and therefore not a true picture. Of course, in that you were unsurprisingly wrong.

    At least the "relax it" crew are sometimes right

    Sometimes but not that often in all honesty. BTW if you are so sick of my posts no one is stopping you from using the ignore button on these forums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    Really? Are you serious?:rolleyes:

    Are you. Cork is a disaster at the moment. It is stab county with racial undertones, The second worst county in Ireland for covid. A Proverbial sh1thole at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jackman25 wrote: »
    3 months of non-stop doom and pessimism from you is fairly tedious too.
    Even today on the other thread with the announcement of 9 new cases, your first port of call was that it was after a weekend and therefore not a true picture. Of course, in that you were unsurprisingly wrong.

    At least the "relax it" crew are sometimes right

    I was going to say the same but find that posters never ending depression extremely tiresome and hard to engage with. There’s never anything new in what they’re saying just the same ole angry caution caution on loop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    prunudo wrote: »
    Don't forget Rte, they're thriving off the doom and gloom. Just witnessed the most depressing 2m socially distanced reunion between a grandfather and his grandkids on the 9 oclock news.
    Hug your grandkids and loved ones, we have to stop this nonsense, god knows what tomorrow will bring.

    Ridiculous stuff. I feel sorry for that cohort of people who have had the living ****e frightened out of them by RTE and the like.
    Assuming that both sides were social distancing (judging by that re-union, it is safe to say they were), that grandad had more chance of winning the euro millions than catching Covid off his grand kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    Look - if you have a modicum of critical thinking ability and can weed through the skewed and sensationalised reporting of numbers to justify said restrictions, then you'd understand the frustration from those questioning lockdown/restrictions here.

    Comparisons to the flu have been hashed out - yes it's a different virus. A new virus, understood.

    Have a read of this;
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/flu-outbreak-linked-to-18-deaths-and-strain-on-emergency-departments-1.4125414

    Here's a pertinent bit;

    '
    Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director for public health, said he expected the number of deaths directly related to the flu to reach 100 in the coming weeks.

    However, he said many people who died after being admitted to hospital with the flu had other underlying conditions.

    “So they will die from pneumonia, they will die from their heart disease or something else, and that figure longer term is normally around 300 or 400 in total,” he said.'


    If it's acceptable that three or four hundred die 'with flu' each season in our hospitals - extrapolate that to residential care homes and you're easily over a thousand deaths 'with flu'. And this is something we have a vaccine for.

    This happens most years with some years worse than others.

    So yes, some of us have trouble with the hysteria. Not to say that improved personal hygiene is not a positive to come from this - but surely at this point there needs to be a reality check on the fear mongering.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    snowcat wrote: »
    Are you. Cork is a disaster at the moment. It is stab county with racial undertones, The second worst county in Ireland for covid. A Proverbial sh1thole at the moment

    Are you from Dublin? If you are the irony of a Dub describing Cork as a ****ehole proverbial or otherwise is delicious.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    Are you from Dublin? If you are the irony of a Dub calling Cork a ****ehole proverbial or otherwise is delicious.:D

    No Im much closer. Oh the irony


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    snowcat wrote: »
    No This is a serious illness. I dont think anyone here is looking for a full opening.

    Ginger will be satisfied once he gets his Gym, Barbers, Pub and Cinema open. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,260 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I think humidity plays a big role in the transmission of this disease.

    In sunshine and low humidity its transmission appears very limited

    It's in moist clammy buses and trains and similar settings it gets hold.

    North Italy is a prime example of a high humidity location in late winter.

    There is little doubt the good weather here played a critical role is bringing our infection rate down so dramatically

    Would be a good thesis for somebody, but almost impossible to prove causation

    Back in the early days I posted that the fact that it is windy in Ireland might just be to our advantage . I was ridiculed and posters laughing that I thought “ Corona would be blown away “
    I still maintain that the fresh moving air we get with sea breezes and low humidity is to our advantage and could very well be a factor in low spread in the community
    All around here people were very good about meeting only outdoors , even wearing jackets etc to chat outdoors . I think it probably helped that we have windy weather in Ireland .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    Sometimes but not that often in all honesty. BTW if you are so sick of my posts no one is stopping you from using the ignore button on these forums.

    I said fairly tedious, but not quite at ignore level yet. I'll let you know :-).

    Just as a matter of interest:

    In 6 weeks time, when the restrictions are more or less lifted will you do any of:

    Non-essential shopping i.e. clothes, luxuries etc,
    Pubs, Restaurants, Hotels, cinemas, theatres etc,
    Public transport (if you needed to)
    holidays (in or out of the country)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Naos wrote: »
    Ginger will be satisfied once he gets his Gym, Barbers, Pub and Cinema open. :pac:

    And Social Distancing removed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://www.corriere.it/salute/20_giugno_08/test-sierologici-bergamo-positivo-57percento-pazienti-30b159ec-a9a6-11ea-b9d7-2bd646fda8c5.shtml

    Interesting news , almost 60% of residents in bergamo have developed antibodies to the virus, herd immunity may have been achieved here. Though this also means that the theory mentioned that a large part of the population having any natural immunity from other coronaviruses is likely false .

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/06/08/world/europe/08reuters-health-coronavirus-italy-antibodies.html
    Mortality rate in Bergamo region is up 568% on previous years. So herd immunity will come at a huge price


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Naos wrote: »
    Ginger will be satisfied once he gets his Gym, Barbers, Pub and Cinema open. :pac:

    Ginger will never be satisfied...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    I do have to say i blush for having become such an internet star on boards :):)

    On a more serious note, im very happy with how things are going but i think 29 june reduce it to 1.5 metres and scrap phase 4. Then I will be even more happy.

    9 new cases and posters here want us to wear masks.. says it all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Ginger will never be satisfied...

    It’s preferable to some here who’ll only be happy permanently locked down with the economy in ruins and bleating on about waves. I know it’s the internet but seriously there’s some very strange people here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat


    Benimar wrote: »
    And Social Distancing removed!

    I think Ginger et al need to be thanked for opening up the debate on the restrictions in Ireland. Despite the doom mongers thousands of people have not died due to the opening of woodies and further relaxation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    I do have to say i blush for having become such an internet star on boards :):)

    On a more serious note, im very happy with how things are going but i think 29 june reduce it to 1.5 metres and scrap phase 4. Then I will be even more happy.

    9 new cases and posters here want us to wear masks.. says it all

    Ah, I'm just teasing.


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