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Wailin wrote: »

A question for you lads, I'd be interested to hear your opinions. Ignoring prices etc, what do you think the cost of change would be to come from a 141 535d with 80k miles to a 182 440i with 3k miles?

I’m gonna say 25k But I reckon if you go in prepared to do a deal on the day you’ll do better maybe 23/24k.
They have some margin in that 440i but the hard one is what they can get for yours In the trade as they are unlikely to retail it themselves.
Your car is in perfect nick so will sell. Bolands have a lot of dealerships so might take it and sell it out of one of their other outlets too.

carsfan2 wrote: »

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/5-series/fpa/202005179377798?journey=Search


seems better value than main dealer and looks well.

Hate ads with multiple similar exterior shots but not one photo of the interior.

Wailin wrote: »

A question for you lads, I'd be interested to hear your opinions. Ignoring prices etc, what do you think the cost of change would be to come from a 141 535d with 80k miles to a 182 440i with 3k miles?

Go through the pain of selling it privately as you know someone will pay for what it is and you won’t get much more than a 520d on a trade in. Then you are a straight cash buyer on the 440i.

Augeo wrote: »

30k
I doubt they'd retail the 535 so they'd not really fancy it.

Spot on. Took the 440i out for a spin yesterday and it was quiet obvious they didn't want my car.

Selling privately could take weeks or months.

carsfan2 wrote: »

Sorry
I thought your car would be more desirable to them. What would it fetch privately Do you think?
What did you think of the 440i and how bolands were to deal with?
I found them poor whenever I priced with them.

I was thinking a similar cost to change as yourself, maybe 25k. They started at 36k to change initially!

The car itself is a peach. That colour in the metal is stunning. I like subtle colours that don't stand out and attract too much attention so I was thinking I'd hate it. But its lovely. The spec is a bit disappointing. All it has is the merino leather, which is class, adaptive dampers and the adaptive led lights. It doesnt have anything else, no reverse camera, no extended blue tooth or even folding mirrors.

The main attraction of the car though is the engine of course and it's fabulous. Sounds great from outside and just goes to 7000 rpm with an unreal noise from it. It lacks a bit of torque alright and the 535d feels a lot faster because of it. Handling wise it's a bit sharper than the f10 of course, but it's still a big heavy car compared to say a hot hatch.

It's a cash buy though. Going in with a trade in is just not worth the hassle.



Next to my own

What have they got the 440i advertised at?

I assumed it would have folding mirrors, reverse camera etc. as it’s a high end performance machine. I agree if it had more spec it would already be sold.

Did they take your car away and put it on ramp for inspection? When I visited there for myself and then with my father when he was car shopping that’s what they did to evaluate it. I’ve never seen it before or since. My father was offended that they thought the car was not as he said and when they started picking out the fact his tyres would need changing before they would sell it and minor imperfections on his beloved Mercedes when they brought it back, they would want to have been giving him a BMW for free for him to do business with them. He is allergic to car sales people anyway but that took the biscuit.

Don’t surprised if they ring you with a better offer in a few days either.
Best thing might be put it up for sale privately and see what happens.

Yep, I actually left shaking with anger. The manager rang today apologising and a much more reasonable offer on the table but it's a hard pill to swallow. Beautiful car, only one of two for sale in the country and i wish it were in any other dealers except bolands.

Down to 27k now. Doubt I'll get better than that from them. But I'll hold off anyway.

I was going to take a trip down to view that 440i at some stage but after reading what they were asking from Wailin with his 535d for it I'm not going to waste an hour's drive. The figures they quoted are just comical and show that these type of dealers have their heads so far up their own arses. To go from 36k to 27k just says to me that they plucked them from the sky. Even 27k is too much, it's easy to see why that car has been sitting on their forecourt since last year and it will still be there next year too me thinks.

Augeo wrote: »

It's a lot to come up 4 years to a car a class below that has quite scabby spec. Have you had the 535 long?

Coming up to 3 years now. The 440i is practically brand new though with only 3000 miles and did cost €82k new.