Madeleine McCann

sxt · 04-06-2020 05:43PM

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

So they really have anything new?

Zero hard evidence, just circumstantial evidence that they have been building on him

He alleged said to someone on madeleines 10th anniversary that he knew what happened to her

SusieBlue · 04-06-2020 05:44PM

_Brian wrote: »

This.
The McCans behaved terribly, possibly illegally abandoning their kids in an unsecure apartment in a strange country to go drinking with their mates.

The fact that they are Doctors got them a free pass on proper scrutiny over this and lots of people threw them easy money afterwards because surely these decent people could do no wrong.

Anyone else and the rest of the kids would be taken into care.

Responsibility for this girls disappearance is 100% with the Parents yet they are given victim status rather than held accountable.

Sorry but the bolded is completely fake news, they have been absolutely annihilated and judged by the press, on social media and in forums since day dot.
They have received severe criticism, there was no free pass for them. In fact I think someone people were even nastier purely because they’re doctors.
They were never treated as victims, they have gotten endless abuse directed at them over the last 13 years.
As if losing their child in those circumstances wasn’t punishment enough.
Look at the comments under any article about Madeleine and you will find some seriously nasty, f*cked up comments about her parents.

The responsibility is 100% on whoever is responsible for her disappearance, and it doesn’t make her parents automatically guilty.

Beechwoodspark · 04-06-2020 05:45PM

The Germans seem to be pretty sure they have solved this.

As Reagan used to say - trust but verify

Silentcorner · 04-06-2020 05:51PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Sorry but the bolded is completely fake news, they have been absolutely annihilated and judged by the press, on social media and in forums since day dot.
They have received severe criticism, there was no free pass for them. In fact I think someone people were even nastier purely because they’re doctors.
They were never treated as victims, they have gotten endless abuse directed at them over the last 13 years.
As if losing their child in those circumstances wasn’t punishment enough.
Look at the comments under any article about Madeleine and you will find some seriously nasty, f*cked up comments about her parents.

The responsibility is 100% on whoever is responsible for her disappearance, and it doesn’t make her parents automatically guilty.

Spot on....the media behaved like depraved gossips like they always do.

Two parents who had their child taken from them had to put up with incompetent investigators, rotten journalistic standards and a baying mob....it was all very distasteful.

dark crystal · 04-06-2020 05:53PM

_Brian wrote: »

Responsibility for this girls disappearance is 100% with the Parents

This is simply not true. The responsibility is on whoever decided they had the right to kidnap someone else's child.

JP Liz V1 · 04-06-2020 05:53PM

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Bit of a fcuked up coincidence that they stayed with the paedophile Clement Freud immediately after Madeline was abducted. Lots of bizzare things about this case.

What?

sxt · 04-06-2020 06:00PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Have you any link for that, thanks. It's something I thought about (checking for perverts in the area at the time etc.).

It's a quote from a 2019 interview with the Head Portuguese Investigator. The full interview is linked on the first page

Here is what he said about this new suspect in that interview
[Url] https://amp.9news.com.au/article/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357[/url]

Spanish Eyes · 04-06-2020 06:03PM

sxt wrote: »

It's a quote from a 2019 interview with the Head Portuguese Investigator. The full interview is linked on the first page

Here is what he said about this new suspect in that interview
[Url] https://amp.9news.com.au/article/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357[/url]

Thanks for that.

Intriguing how the case still attracts so much attention, but I suppose hope springs eternal.

04-06-2020 06:06PM

sxt wrote: »

It's a quote from a 2019 interview with the Head Portuguese Investigator. The full interview is linked on the first page

Here is what he said about this new suspect in that interview
[Url] https://amp.9news.com.au/article/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357[/url]

'"The trailer that he lived in was taken to Germany for testing but nothing was found there."

What about the jag?

maebee · 04-06-2020 06:06PM

dark crystal wrote: »

This is simply not true. The responsibility is on whoever decided they had the right to kidnap someone else's child.

Sorry but there's no proof of kidnapping or abduction. The only fact is that she disappeared.

Spanish Eyes · 04-06-2020 06:07PM

dark crystal wrote: »

This is simply not true. The responsibility is on whoever decided they had the right to kidnap someone else's child.

Look, I have no problem with criticising the parents for leaving three under THREE y.o. kids alone in a ground floor UNLOCKED apartment. I mean who could not?

Apart from the kidnap issue, any of those three little mites could have woken and wandered, drank the bleach under the kitchen sink, fallen down the steps, anything.

The kids were all under THREE years old. Babies.

Sorry, but if they had brought the kids to the restaurant in their buggies as happens all the time in Spain and Portugal there would have been no issue.

Can you see where I am coming from at all?

Banana Republic. · 04-06-2020 06:11PM

sxt wrote: »

It's a quote from a 2019 interview with the Head Portuguese Investigator. The full interview is linked on the first page

Here is what he said about this new suspect in that interview
[Url] https://amp.9news.com.au/article/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357[/url]

Just like Robert Murat, they pulled his name from nowhere cause he was close and trying to help. You can’t help but not trust any new info. This would be the craziest year ever if Madeline is found and a suspect is convicted. Mind blowing stuff, hopefully it’s solved the poor little girl.

SusieBlue · 04-06-2020 06:15PM

maebee wrote: »

Sorry but there's no proof of kidnapping or abduction. The only fact is that she disappeared.

And yet this lack of proof either way still doesn’t stop some people speculating all sorts of nasty things about her parents. I don’t see you questioning any of those posts though.

Steve F · 04-06-2020 06:24PM

pwurple wrote: »

I keep seeing this... have you seen the apartment and the place they were eating? They had a groundfloor apt. They were about 30m away, outside, within eyeline. Basically, across a garden / pool.

My house is down the end of a gravel laneway. When I put my bins out after my children are in bed, it's about 3 times the distance the parents were. Or if I check the post, before they wake up, it's that distance.

I don't kneel at the edge of their beds all night praying wakefully over them, I go to my own bedroom and sleep. Or I put them to bed and I go downstairs and do some other stuff. No parent keeps 24x7 surveillance on their children, it is simply unreasonable.

A pedophile breaking into your apartment and stealing your children is so unbelievably unlikely. That's why it's on the news. And it's also possible that this may STILL have happened even if they were there. In through a child's window when you are in another room watching TV, or in your own bedroom and out they go again. Or another child taken instead.

This suspect was apparently a burglar and sex offender. If that's the case, it fits exactly their story of what happened. Let's see.

Sorry to be pedantic but 30m is no where near accurate

gerbilgranny · 04-06-2020 06:26PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Because they left their children alone in an apartment while they were having drinks...the were how old at the time

I never left my two children with any babysitter, apart from 5 or less occasions when I left them in the care of an aunt or a grandparent.

So you could say I was the most protective/cautious of parents.

But I remember it was commonplace for holiday companies/camping villages/hotels to offer 'babysitting services' - this was not someone sitting with the children, but checking them at regular intervals. Having watched a documentary about what happened in Madeleine's case, it was clear to me that the parents were actually not that far away from the place where the children were. It doesn't make it right, in my opinion, but what they did was not that uncommon. Indeed, my own daughter, now around 30, said that when she and her sister were young children, and they were 'allowed' to go out and play in our estate, they would have been further away from their parents than the McCann children were.

splinter65 · 04-06-2020 06:27PM

Augeo wrote: »

Attractive? Very subjective ........... she's average at best, I dunno is he even that tbh.

You’ve just illustrated my point beautifully , thanks. There must be 100s of pics of kate McCann but you went out of your way to find this one. Just such a nasty bitter approach.

splinter65 · 04-06-2020 06:29PM

maebee wrote: »

Sorry but there's no proof of kidnapping or abduction. The only fact is that she disappeared.

What are you going to do maebee if this guy gets charged?

2u2me · 04-06-2020 06:33PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

And yet this lack of proof either way still doesn’t stop some people speculating all sorts of nasty things about her parents. I don’t see you questioning any of those posts though.

Isn't speculating about the german guy just as nasty until it's proved?

What if he's innocent and receives lots of hate etc.. Sure he's just a paedophile already throw the book at him?

I think the truth matters more than anything.

Anything said here in this thread had been said thousands of times on the internet already, probably, and orders of magnitude worse.
I don't see any utility in constantly defending the honour of the parents, even if they are most likely innocent.

Babooshka · 04-06-2020 06:43PM

2u2me wrote: »

Isn't speculating about the german guy just as nasty until it's proved?

What if he's innocent and receives lots of hate etc.. Sure he's just a paedophile already throw the book at him?

I think the truth matters more than anything.

Anything said here in this thread had been said thousands of times on the internet already, probably, and orders of magnitude worse.
I don't see any utility in constantly defending the honour of the parents, even if they are most likely innocent.

He's not an innocent he's a rapist and a paedophile and he's done it before so that kind of knocks that one out of the water.

yerwanthere123 · 04-06-2020 06:55PM

Augeo wrote: »

Attractive? Very subjective ........... she's average at best, I dunno is he even that tbh.

Some grim people on this forum. Fucking hell.

splinter65 · 04-06-2020 06:58PM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Some grim people on this forum. Fucking hell.

There’s been nothing on the Internet that has exposed peoples true character like the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann. I could tell you things that would make your hair curl.

ShineOn7 · 04-06-2020 07:05PM

pwurple wrote: »

I keep seeing this... have you seen the apartment and the place they were eating? They had a groundfloor apt. They were about 30m away, outside, within eyeline. Basically, across a garden / pool.

Absolute nonsense

Do your homework and get back to us

FVP3 · 04-06-2020 07:08PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

And yet this lack of proof either way still doesn’t stop some people speculating all sorts of nasty things about her parents. I don’t see you questioning any of those posts though.

Very few posts explicitly accusing them of murder, plenty of posts accusing them ( wrongly in my view) of negligence. Some stupid posts about appearance alright.

2u2me · 04-06-2020 07:19PM

Babooshka wrote: »

He's not an innocent he's a rapist and a paedophile and he's done it before so that kind of knocks that one out of the water.

I agree with you, but it doesn't sit easy with me if we just pin every crime on the scumbag.

I'd love to see what evidence they have. The big thing seems to be that he shared information with another cellmate that only 'the abductor' would have known. I wonder what piece of information this is exactly?
To me it seems weird that there is something only one person would know, given the exposure in this case.

callmehal · 04-06-2020 07:20PM

I'd say the McCann's must feel really guilty and ashamed. They left their kids alone while they went out drinking. If this latest link turns out to be true, how can they live with themselves? The peado should be executed if he's found guilty. Sick, twisted, scumbag. He was given a free opportunity though, the McCann's abandoned their kids for the night and probably previous nights. A horrendous affair all around, poor girl.

jimmycrackcorm · 04-06-2020 07:23PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Sorry but the bolded is completely fake news, they have been absolutely annihilated and judged by the press, on social media and in forums since day dot.
They have received severe criticism, there was no free pass for them. In fact I think someone people were even nastier purely because they’re doctors.
They were never treated as victims, they have gotten endless abuse directed at them over the last 13 years.
As if losing their child in those circumstances wasn’t punishment enough.
Look at the comments under any article about Madeleine and you will find some seriously nasty, f*cked up comments about her parents.

The responsibility is 100% on whoever is responsible for her disappearance, and it doesn’t make her parents automatically guilty.

Worse still for them that had they actually been guilty like people suggested, that they could have just not put such an effort over the years looking for her.

Babooshka · 04-06-2020 07:31PM

2u2me wrote: »

I agree with you, but it doesn't sit easy with me if we just pin every crime on the scumbag.

I'd love to see what evidence they have. The big thing seems to be that he shared information with another cellmate that only 'the abductor' would have known. I wonder what piece of information this is exactly?
To me it seems weird that there is something only one person would know, given the exposure in this case.

It sounds like he shot his mouth off around 2017 and they've been looking into it since. He raped a pensioner in the same complex about 15 months before Madeleine disappeared.

dark crystal · 04-06-2020 07:42PM

maebee wrote: »

Sorry but there's no proof of kidnapping or abduction. The only fact is that she disappeared.

But if there was no abduction or kidnapping, what other option is there?

Be honest, it's just another way of implicating the parents isn't it? A child doesn't just disappear into thin air.

Strumms · 04-06-2020 07:48PM

_Brian wrote: »

Responsibility for this girls disappearance is 100% with the Parents yet they are given victim status rather than held accountable.

They are guilty of a catastrophic error of judgement, as a result they’ve suffered an unimaginable and catastrophic loss...

The responsibility for her being abducted lies with whoever planned and carried out the abduction though.. not with the McCann’s.. beat up the McCann’s, that’s been done, I’m sure they are still doing it to themselves... but there is some evil prick somewhere and quite probably some people who not only carried out the abduction but facilitated it happening and the culprit(s) getting away with it so far.

The McCann’s are victims, did they make a choice that contributed to the abduction but it was not by design, it was carelessness, that shouldn’t be punishable by their kid being abducted and or murdered. Holding them to account however that’s achieved won’t find Madeleine.

expectationlost · 04-06-2020 08:03PM

sxt wrote: »

It's a quote from a 2019 interview with the Head Portuguese Investigator. The full interview is linked on the first page

Here is what he said about this new suspect in that interview
https://amp.9news.com.au/article/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357

sure they are taking about the same guy seems to be confusion over 2 different german paedophiles

Madeleine McCann

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