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  • #9152
    downtown3858
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭downtown3858


    MfMan wrote: »
    Anyone hear of a problem with BSE/China?

    Yep. All China markets now closed due to BSE case in Ireland . Pull in beef prices incoming


  • #9153
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,618 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    downtown3858 wrote: »
    Yep. All China markets now closed due to BSE case in Ireland . Pull in beef prices incoming

    Sure weren't we being told that china wasnt a great market for irish beef due to them only wanting the finest cuts and the other 3/4 of the animal no use to the china market. Amazing how if price is pulled how it suits the factories now


  • #9154
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Sure weren't we being told that china wasnt a great market for irish beef due to them only wanting the finest cuts and the other 3/4 of the animal no use to the china market. Amazing how if price is pulled how it suits the factories now
    Yea more fake news by MII if China took the good cuts there was ample market in UK and Europe for the lesser ones as we have gone mince mad. Kantar worldpanel stated sales increased by 12% in April when processors said they were depressed.


  • #9155
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    kk.man wrote: »
    Yea more fake news by MII if China took the good cuts there was ample market in UK and Europe for the lesser ones as we have gone mince mad. Kantar worldpanel stated sales increased by 12% in April when processors said they were depressed.

    It amazing confirmation comes from a virtually new uses

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #9156
    wrangler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kk.man wrote: »
    Yea more fake news by MII if China took the good cuts there was ample market in UK and Europe for the lesser ones as we have gone mince mad. Kantar worldpanel stated sales increased by 12% in April when processors said they were depressed.

    MII are bigger fools to be telling farmers anything, no one believes them so why bother


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  • #9157
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭kk.man


    wrangler wrote: »
    MII are bigger fools to be telling farmers anything, no one believes them so why bother

    Do you believe them Wrangler?


  • #9158
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,664 ✭✭✭Robson99


    wrangler wrote: »
    MII are bigger fools to be telling farmers anything, no one believes them so why bother

    I would have as much respect for MII as I would have for fresh cow****e on a new pair of shoes. Why should the farmer trust them


  • #9159
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    One cow tests positive for BSE. Isn't that strange? As someone who doesn't have a good understanding of the industry, are there any benefits in having this excuse to suspend export to China?


  • #9160
    wrangler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kk.man wrote: »
    Do you believe them Wrangler?

    I always believe half of what I see and nothing of what I hear.

    They shouldn't have to explain anything, we lose input when the animal walks off the ramp, they could throw it in the skip or get €5000 for it, no explanation required. they won't give a damn whether we believe it or not
    A lot of the reported excuses from MII can be hearsay from some lying farmers too.
    ''you wouldn't believe the radio in his jeep'' is how one vocal farmer was described to me.


  • #9161
    Duke92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    One cow tests positive for BSE. Isn't that strange? As someone who doesn't have a good understanding of the industry, are there any benefits in having this excuse to suspend export to China?

    What a stupid statement
    Obviously not


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  • #9162
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    One cow tests positive for BSE. Isn't that strange? As someone who doesn't have a good understanding of the industry, are there any benefits in having this excuse to suspend export to China?

    Yes.

    This is an agreed protocol in cases where there is a case of BSE in the country. The suspension stays until confirmation that this is an atypical BSE case when trade reopens again, similar to 2017, the last time there was a confirmed case in the country. I don't remember if this will mean a renewed round of inspections of safety protocols across the approved factories or not so that might slow down the reopening of the trade again.

    The trouble starts if it's a normal BSE case where all exports could be stopped.


  • #9163
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,618 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    Yes.

    This is an agreed protocol in cases where there is a case of BSE in the country. The suspension stays until confirmation that this is an atypical BSE case when trade reopens again, similar to 2017, the last time there was a confirmed case in the country. I don't remember if this will mean a renewed round of inspections of safety protocols across the approved factories or not so that might slow down the reopening of the trade again.

    The trouble starts if it's a normal BSE case where all exports could be stopped.

    Isn't it amazing that they are do particular about our beef but will eat anything that moves in thier own country


  • #9164
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Isn't it amazing that they are do particular about our beef but will eat anything that moves in thier own country

    Like cattle being blamed for global warming, the first reports of hundreds of millions potentially infected with CJD is the one to have stuck in peoples minds.

    I'm trying to think if it even went over 200? Get your agenda out first, regardless of any truth it may have, seems to be a successful strategy.


  • #9165
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,371 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Isn't it amazing that they are do particular about our beef but will eat anything that moves in thier own country

    It's all about keeping the population happy and content.
    Food standards on imported stuff leads the population to believe the government cares about them.
    Non food standards on their own stuff leads the Chinese people that sell it to believe the government cares about them and wants to lift them out of poverty.

    Just realised ..the complete opposite of Ireland and the EU. :pac: :rolleyes:


  • #9166
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    in a dire situation here for grass with the drought and have a batch of AA and FR bullocks 4-6 week off slaughter...anyone here feed straight rolled barley to bullocks for the last 6 weeks on grass?..how many kg is safe to start them off on and how many kg could you build them up to?


  • #9167
    memorystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Rolled barley mightn’t be the best on grass.


  • #9168
    Duke92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    memorystick wrote: »
    Rolled barley mightn’t be the best on grass.

    Agree you’d want to have stemy grass really for a good fibre source or guve them a bale of straw


  • #9169
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Duke92 wrote: »
    What a stupid statement
    Obviously not

    At least I know the difference between a question and a statement.

    I was thinking more along the lines of the cost of export increasing, or labour increasing or operating costs due to Covid and all that that demands.

    Or maybe even a political reason.

    Like I said I don't know the industry so I just asked a question.


  • #9170
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Jjameson wrote: »
    It was a fair question in my view. A typical bse in an old cow. Chinsee markets is taking predominantly 4th and 5 quarter beef and offal from under 30 month cattle. China a bastion of food safety!!? 4th qaurter is now in demand. But a timely bad news story now that the first draft of grass cattle is starting in earnest.

    This job ain’t never going to change in our time.

    4th quarter?


  • #9171
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,841 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Fore, rather than 4, IWT.


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  • #9172
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭mf240


    Any quotes for the week ahead.


  • #9173
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    What are BBX like to flesh ? Separated 8 bullocks yesterday with 4 in the group to start feeding. Will get a bag between em for a week and then up to 5kg a day. In good condition at the moment so hoping they'll be right in 6/7 weeks.


  • #9174
    Duke92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    What are BBX like to flesh ? Separated 8 bullocks yesterday with 4 in the group to start feeding. Will get a bag between em for a week and then up to 5kg a day. In good condition at the moment so hoping they'll be right in 6/7 weeks.

    Hard you could give them 8kg and spilt it twice a day


  • #9175
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Duke92 wrote: »
    Hard you could give them 8kg and spilt it twice a day

    Could manage it alright. Could you go from the 3kg up to 8kg ?


  • #9176
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Could manage it alright. Could you go from the 3kg up to 8kg ?

    What age are they and are they dairy bred. They are hard enough to finish earlier than 30mts. You could stagger the rise in meal over a week.


  • #9177
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    What age are they and are they dairy bred. They are hard enough to finish earlier than 30mts. You could stagger the rise in meal over a week.

    26/27 months off British Fr. Nice shape to them but not carrying flesh.


  • #9178
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    26/27 months off British Fr. Nice shape to them but not carrying flesh.
    what kinda weight are you hoping they will kill?


  • #9179
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    declanflynn wrote: »
    what kinda weight are you hoping they will kill?

    Reckon they are 625kg plus at the momemt. Would hope to see em kill out around 340/350 kg.


  • #9180
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Reckon they are 625kg plus at the momemt. Would hope to see em kill out around 340/350 kg.
    from my experience 350 is achievable, I always taut I had good ones but they grading always disappointed only a few o+'s


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  • #9181
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Jjameson wrote: »
    If they are off British Friesian and warmish type then they can be some of the best performing cattle going.

    Have been very impressed with their thrive over the last 2-3 weeks.


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