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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #8732
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Sad to see another 9 people lost there lives:(

    RIP


  • #8733
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    ACitizenErased wrote:
    It’s not as if it would have changed dramatically if it went on to 11am unless they’re doing all nighters in the labs? Not sure if it’s a 24hr operation

    It is.


  • #8734
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It’s not as if it would have changed dramatically if it went on to 11am unless they’re doing all nighters in the labs? Not sure if it’s a 24hr operation

    Probably not. . Also doubt many deaths are reported between those hours. In reality probably 2 hrs light. 09:00 to 11:00.


  • #8735
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Kerry becomes the second county to go a full week without any new cases.


  • #8736
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Covid laboratory testing is being done 24/7 in hospitals around the country and the NVRL.


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  • #8737
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Interesting : at least some modellers have predicted that the virus could simply burn itself out later this year due to low transmission rates worldwide

    Can't remember his name but, a professor in one of the Sunday papers predicts it'll burn itself out by the end of June.

    I'm not a scientist, nor a medical expert so I haven't a clue but, hope he's right :confused:


  • #8738
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,500 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    7 day rolling average deaths is down to 60. A week ago it was 81 and the week before that 162

    The trend is very encouraging and suggests we are just about on top of this, particularly with NI showing similar progression


  • #8739
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    How old were the victims?


  • #8740
    kev1.3s
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭kev1.3s


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    Kerry becomes the second county to go a full week without any new cases.

    Who is the other?


  • #8741
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    30k test over the past week? Where are they being performed?


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  • #8742
    Redo91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭Redo91


    kev1.3s wrote: »
    Who is the other?

    Think it’s Sligo.


  • #8743
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    kev1.3s wrote: »
    Who is the other?

    Shligo


  • #8744
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    kev1.3s wrote:
    Who is the other?


    Sligo


  • #8745
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Can't remember his name but, a professor in one of the Sunday papers predicts it'll burn itself out by the end of June.

    I'm not a scientist, nor a medical expert so I haven't a clue but, hope he's right :confused:

    It won't burn itself out by the end of June. Not a chance. And if it did burn itself out, you'd only need someone to come back into the country with it and we'd have it again.

    The social distancing thing is what will keep the numbers low, hopefully very low, so that can't be totally abandoned.

    Personally I think it would be a mistake to abandon the 2m rule and replace it with a 1m rule. 1m simply isn't far enough away. I fear the Government will make that decision for business reasons rather than public health reasons.


  • #8746
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Onesea wrote: »
    30k test over the past week? Where are they being performed?
    Think there is still some work going on in disability centres and meat plants and the hypochondriacs will never go away!


  • #8747
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It won't burn itself out by the end of June. Not a chance. And if it did burn itself out, you'd only need someone to come back into the country with it and we'd have it again.

    The social distancing thing is what will keep the numbers low, hopefully very low, so that can't be totally abandoned.

    Personally I think it would be a mistake to abandon the 2m rule and replace it with a 1m rule. 1m simply isn't far enough away. I fear the Government will make that decision for business reasons rather than public health reasons.

    Your personal view is all wrong.
    Virus often lessen with strength, they aren't geared to become more severe.


  • #8748
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,772 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Can't remember his name but, a professor in one of the Sunday papers predicts it'll burn itself out by the end of June.

    I'm not a scientist, nor a medical expert so I haven't a clue but, hope he's right :confused:

    Yes, I read that article, he's a guy at Stanford University.

    It's by no means a majority opinion but it's interesting all the same. Some experts think a big second wave could come in the autumn, others think it could happen right now and yet others think the virus could simply fade away after a single wave.


  • #8749
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It won't burn itself out by the end of June. Not a chance. And if it did burn itself out, you'd only need someone to come back into the country with it and we'd have it again.

    The social distancing thing is what will keep the numbers low, hopefully very low, so that can't be totally abandoned.

    Personally I think it would be a mistake to abandon the 2m rule and replace it with a 1m rule. 1m simply isn't far enough away. I fear the Government will make that decision for business reasons rather than public health reasons.
    So are you looking at December 2021 or December 2025 for normality?


  • #8750
    risteard7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It won't burn itself out by the end of June. Not a chance. And if it did burn itself out, you'd only need someone to come back into the country with it and we'd have it again.

    The social distancing thing is what will keep the numbers low, hopefully very low, so that can't be totally abandoned.

    Personally I think it would be a mistake to abandon the 2m rule and replace it with a 1m rule. 1m simply isn't far enough away. I fear the Government will make that decision for business reasons rather than public health reasons.

    People are rarely 2m apart anyway. It's usually always around 1m.


  • #8751
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Onesea wrote: »
    Your personal view is all wrong.
    Virus often lessen with strength, they aren't geared to become more severe.

    I hope you are right. But I don't think this virus will be gone by June.


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  • #8752
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It won't burn itself out by the end of June. Not a chance. And if it did burn itself out, you'd only need someone to come back into the country with it and we'd have it again.

    The social distancing thing is what will keep the numbers low, hopefully very low, so that can't be totally abandoned.

    Personally I think it would be a mistake to abandon the 2m rule and replace it with a 1m rule. 1m simply isn't far enough away. I fear the Government will make that decision for business reasons rather than public health reasons.

    It's an assumption that it won't burn out. Widespread testing hasn't happened so we don't know how far it went, potentially those that are likely to feel actual symptoms worth testing have already been rooted out. Not saying that's the case but that there is potential as it is an assumption there would be no burn out of the virus.


  • #8753
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes, I read that article, he's a guy at Stanford University.

    It's by no means a majority opinion but it's interesting all the same. Some experts think a big second wave could come in the autumn, others think it could happen right now and yet others think the virus could simply fade away after a single wave.
    Not medical, he's a Nobel chemist and he used modelling. He's got our numbers wrong. Out by 5K on cases and half of the deaths he projected.


  • #8754
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So are you looking at December 2021 or December 2025 for normality?

    Anyones guess but you would need to see 0 new cases over the course of 2 weeks at least before any suggestion that it has burned out and thats just here never mind globally.


  • #8755
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So are you looking at December 2021 or December 2025 for normality?

    I'd be hoping for some sort of normality in 2021. But things won't go back exactly the way they were. Some changes will be permanent.


  • #8756
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Has the seasonal flu and pneumonia taken a holiday?
    Where are the stats for the past winter of either ilness in any of the European countries.
    With all the testing going on, surely some of the people who were tested negative for 19 should have at least shown positives for other corona types.So would this be the year to have better stats on common cold and seasonal flu.

    The age of today's victims? Location? Any other ailments amoung today's casualties?


  • #8757
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,772 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not medical, he's a Nobel chemist and he used modelling. He's got our numbers wrong. Out by 5K on cases and half of the deaths he projected.

    For sure but he's not a lone voice in the wilderness.

    Majority of scientists think Covid will still be around next year but many admit they can't make any predictions with great confidence.


  • #8758
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    It's an assumption that it won't burn out. Widespread testing hasn't happened so we don't know how far it went, potentially those that are likely to feel actual symptoms worth testing have already been rooted out. Not saying that's the case but that there is potential as it is an assumption there would be no burn out of the virus.

    Yes, the virus will eventually burn out, but that won't be for a while. We need a huge amount of the population to have gotten the virus and survived. I doubt 10% of the population have had it at this stage. But we don't know that for sure.


  • #8759
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'd be hoping for some sort of normality in 2021. But things won't go back exactly the way they were. Some changes will be permanent.

    What do you reckon will change permanently?


  • #8760
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Onesea wrote: »
    Your personal view is all wrong.
    Virus often lessen with strength, they aren't geared to become more severe.

    Wasn't there a second wave of the Spanish Flu in 1918 that was much stronger than the first?


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  • #8761
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It won't burn itself out by the end of June. Not a chance. And if it did burn itself out, you'd only need someone to come back into the country with it and we'd have it again.

    The social distancing thing is what will keep the numbers low, hopefully very low, so that can't be totally abandoned.

    Personally I think it would be a mistake to abandon the 2m rule and replace it with a 1m rule. 1m simply isn't far enough away. I fear the Government will make that decision for business reasons rather than public health reasons.

    Agreed. It will only burn out when it runs out from hosts. Either by people dying from the virus or becoming immune. That's the only way it will burn out. A vaccine would help too. I don't see it happening to be honest. There's far too many people who want to rushbkut and continue life as it was before this emerged and that's going to bring risks of transmissions.


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