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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #6572
    thomond2006
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    salmocab wrote: »
    There’s 4 dressing rooms in the Aviva. But I’m pretty sure it’s 2 days.

    Cheers that's doable then. It would be odd for a big ground to have only two dressing rooms obviously, Croke Park has 4 dressing rooms also to cover double headers.


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    #6573
    Squidgy Black
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Cheers that's doable then. It would be odd for a big ground to have only two dressing rooms obviously, Croke Park has 4 dressing rooms also to cover double headers.

    You'd also have the Lansdowne club house if extra facilities were needed I'm guessing.


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    #6574
    salmocab
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Cheers that's doable then. It would be odd for a big ground to have only two dressing rooms obviously, Croke Park has 4 dressing rooms also to cover double headers.

    I’m pretty sure Croker has 6, 4 in the hogan and 2 in the Cusack. Not positive on that but they do triple headers regularly enough.


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    #6575
    The Lost Sheep
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Fair enough. The RDS is more than adequate though
    its not though. Makes far more sense to play it Aviva. It's an irfu double header. Aviva completely closed off venue in comparison to rds
    salmocab wrote: »
    There’s 4 dressing rooms in the Aviva. But I’m pretty sure it’s 2 days.
    theres more I'm fairly sure.
    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    You'd also have the Lansdowne club house if extra facilities were needed I'm guessing.
    yeah teams in second game could arrive and warm up there but would doubt they would ne needed
    salmocab wrote: »
    I’m pretty sure Croker has 6, 4 in the hogan and 2 in the Cusack. Not positive on that but they do triple headers regularly enough.
    and Aviva does double headers with club finals in soccer. Would be changing rooms for minis half time teams etc as well.


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    #6576
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Can you skip a line when you reply to quotes TLS? Maybe it's just me but I find your replies difficult to read.


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    #6577
    pickarooney
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    Ach, they can get changed in the bus.


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    #6578
    Burkie1203
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    This has major implications for the Pro14, European cup and 6n if that is the stance that the UK govt carries into Autumn.

    https://twitter.com/BhuyuChhyan/status/1264090858078515201?s=19

    Philip Browne mentioned the IRFU would have to start borrowing money by the end of Summer in his briefing to media on Friday.

    Do the SA teams usually fly into London ?


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    #6579
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    This has major implications for the Pro14, European cup and 6n if that is the stance that the UK govt carries into Autumn.

    https://twitter.com/BhuyuChhyan/status/1264090858078515201?s=19

    Philip Browne mentioned the IRFU would have to start borrowing money by the end of Summer in his briefing to media on Friday.

    Do the SA teams usually fly into London ?

    It's the same measures that've been introduced here. But it doesn't apply to any layovers etc, it's only where the UK is the final destination. And the UK government have already said this won't apply to Irish people travelling to the UK.


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    #6580
    Burkie1203
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    It's the same measures that've been introduced here. But it doesn't apply to any layovers etc, it's only where the UK is the final destination. And the UK government have already said this won't apply to Irish people travelling to the UK.

    It still has implications for the SA, French, Italian sides.

    It also has implications for the Welsh, Scottish and English sides who leave and come back into the UK


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    #6581
    Interested Observer
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Fair enough. The RDS is more than adequate though

    I'm really not following what your issue is. Why have it in the RDS?


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    #6582
    bilston
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    It also has implications for the Welsh, Scottish and English sides who leave and come back into the UK

    As far as I'm aware it doesn't apply to the common travel area so anyone travelling within it won't have to quarantine for 14 days.

    The hope would be that by the Autumn the 14 day quarantine will be a bit more selective anyway rather than a broad brush over every country other than Ireland.


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    #6583
    Eod100
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    Leinster not going ahead with season tickets for next season. Makes sense under the circumstances.

    Refunding Saracens, Munster Rugby, Zebre or Cardiff Blues single game tickets and credit for 3 home games as part of season ticket.

    https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-rugby-cancels-season-tickets/


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    #6584
    pickarooney
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    I'm really not following what your issue is. Why have it in the RDS?

    Smaller, cheaper... why not have every Leinster match in the Aviva if crowd size is not the reason?


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    #6585
    Podge_irl
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Smaller, cheaper... why not have every Leinster match in the Aviva if crowd size is not the reason?

    Cause they have to pay for the RDS anyway and cause they have to pay to rent the Aviva. They need ~30k crowd to make the Aviva break even as I recall.


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    #6586
    The Lost Sheep
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Smaller, cheaper... why not have every Leinster match in the Aviva if crowd size is not the reason?
    irfu running all 4 provinces hames in the Aviva. Makes far more sense than playing games in one sides home ground.
    This isnt a leinster home game. It's an irfu run game. Why open 2 stadiums or have other provinces be playing in rds in non leinster games?


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    #6587
    blackwhite
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Cause they have to pay for the RDS anyway and cause they have to pay to rent the Aviva. They need ~30k crowd to make the Aviva break even as I recall.

    Given they won’t have to pay stewards, bar staff, ticket checkers, policing, etc then the cost of running from one v the other isn’t actually going to be a whole lot different


    Most of the additional cost of a game in a big stadium is the cost of dealing with the general public with bigger areas to manage


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    #6588
    pickarooney
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    irfu running all 4 provinces hames in the Aviva. Makes far more sense than playing games in one sides home ground.
    This isnt a leinster home game. It's an irfu run game. Why open 2 stadiums or have other provinces be playing in rds in non leinster games?

    The notion of a home game behind closed doors is moot.


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    #6589
    awec
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    irfu running all 4 provinces hames in the Aviva. Makes far more sense than playing games in one sides home ground.
    This isnt a leinster home game. It's an irfu run game. Why open 2 stadiums or have other provinces be playing in rds in non leinster games?

    Of course it’s a Leinster home game.


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    #6590
    salmocab
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Cause they have to pay for the RDS anyway and cause they have to pay to rent the Aviva. They need ~30k crowd to make the Aviva break even as I recall.

    There was a similar rumour about the crowd size in Croke park a few years ago about break even and the GAA said it wasn’t true. The less people in the less staff and areas open.


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    #6591
    troyzer
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    awec wrote: »
    Of course it’s a Leinster home game.

    What even is a home game without a crowd?


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    #6592
    thomond2006
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    troyzer wrote: »
    What even is a home game without a crowd?

    A Southern Kings home game.


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    #6593
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,220 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    awec wrote: »
    Of course it’s a Leinster home game.

    Its not, but you know that already.


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    #6594
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    A Southern Kings home game.

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    #6595
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    salmocab wrote: »
    There was a similar rumour about the crowd size in Croke park a few years ago about break even and the GAA said it wasn’t true. The less people in the less staff and areas open.

    The number may be lower, but there is a number there. They have to pay to rent the stadium


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    #6596
    salmocab
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    The number may be lower, but there is a number there. They have to pay to rent the stadium

    The cost of hiring the actual stadium would be quite low for both the irfu and fai I’d think and currently neither organisation is in a position to be turning the screw on each other on a stadium they both own.


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    #6597
    Interested Observer
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    The number may be lower, but there is a number there. They have to pay to rent the stadium

    You really think the normal rules are going to apply here?


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    #6598
    awec
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Its not, but you know that already.

    Of course it is, Leinster regularly play home games in the Aviva.


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    #6599
    molloyjh
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    awec wrote: »
    Of course it is, Leinster regularly play home games in the Aviva.

    In front of tens of thousands of Leinster fans, none of whom will be there for these games.

    What other advantages do they have that Ulster wouldnt have in this specific scenario?


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    #6600
    nc6000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭nc6000


    awec wrote: »
    Of course it’s a Leinster home game.

    Why does this even matter? Any games played in August are effectively warm-up games so the Pro14 semis and final can take place to finish off the league. Leinster are 20 points ahead in their pool and will top it regardless of what happens in these games and would have topped it anyway had the season not been interrupted. Leinster were already due to play Munster in the Aviva.


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    #6601
    errlloyd
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    Ulster have played Home games in the Aviva and the RDS before. :D


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