Cocaine

MadYaker · 23-05-2020 10:51PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Whoever likes coke should watch the various documentaries on how it's made. Plenty on YouTube. Even Gordon Ramsey did one.

- Some poor farmers make it.
- They use chemicals such as bleach and kerosene to break down the coca leaf.
- This process creates the paste which is sold to drug cartels. They apply their own process to turn into powder.
- It gets cut as it passed down.
- Then your local drug dealer is gonna cut it up with his own crap.

Then you snort it. All up your nose.

Ah but its a great buzz though :pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2020 11:02PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Whoever likes coke should watch the various documentaries on how it's made. Plenty on YouTube. Even Gordon Ramsey did one.

- Some poor farmers make it.
- They use chemicals such as bleach and kerosene to break down the coca leaf.
- This process creates the paste which is sold to drug cartels. They apply their own process to turn into powder.
- It gets cut as it passed down.
- Then your local drug dealer is gonna cut it up with his own crap.

Then you snort it. All up your nose.

Ever been to a sausage factory?

LuasSimon · 23-05-2020 11:10PM

Thankfully I never took cocaine but I’ve seen fairly decent people go from happy go lucky people to paranoid and violent individuals within months .

Over the last 2 years one alleged casual user recently gave his wife a bad beating and she was granted a barring order in court against him seeing her or his two kids . He ended up renting in a local estate spending every Bob he had and more on cocaine .Last week the local travellers he has a cocaine debt with burnt his car out and gave him a fair slashing with knives across his legs and chest . Great world this cocaine brings you into to . He’s lost his wife his job and anything he had of value over these 2 years and it’s all done to his cocaine habit .

Blondie919 · 23-05-2020 11:11PM

akelly02 wrote: »

And you feel ****iing great

And then you feel ****ing depressed!

riclad · 24-05-2020 12:49PM

Hash is cheap. I know lots of people who smoke hash
I have never even met anyone who uses cocaine
I think hash is like beer . cheap and easy to get anywhere My friend smokes has maybe twice a week. He works full time
He never even considered trying coke or any other drug
Its a cliche. Cocaine is a sign you have too much money. I
think there's also pills and other drugs also used,
But I don't know exactly what they are
I, m not going out looking for em

mr_fegelien · 24-05-2020 05:49PM

riclad wrote: »

Hash is cheap. I know lots of people who smoke hash
I have never even met anyone who uses cocaine
I think hash is like beer . cheap and easy to get anywhere My friend smokes has maybe twice a week. He works full time
He never even considered trying coke or any other drug
Its a cliche. Cocaine is a sign you have too much money. I
think there's also pills and other drugs also used,
But I don't know exactly what they are
I, m not going out looking for em

What does hash feel like? I've smoked weed before and had a hallucination that lasted for 30 seconds. Heard that's not normal. I should mention that I have underlying mental issues.

MadYaker · 24-05-2020 06:07PM

mr_fegelien wrote: »

What does hash feel like? I've smoked weed before and had a hallucination that lasted for 30 seconds. Heard that's not normal. I should mention that I have underlying mental issues.

I would say that obvious from your posts :pac:

If you have mental health issues you shouldn’t take anything that wasn’t prescribed to you by your doctor.

akelly02 · 24-05-2020 09:54PM

Blondie919 wrote: »

And then you feel ****ing depressed!

Who are ya telling ... what goes up must come down unfortunately

4Ad · 24-05-2020 10:25PM

Totally overpriced rip off. I find it just sobers you up a little and a bit of a rush..I have only had that euphoric long lasting feeling a couple of times..
And I cant say it really changes peoples personalitys too much, unlike excess alcohol or whiskey...especially whiskey..

riclad · 24-05-2020 10:33PM

I never used any drug, from what I know hash makes people feel relaxed, mellow.i think coke gives people a quick hit
of feeling good.people using hash are not angry or aggressive. I, m not saying everyone should use drugs
America has not fallen apart because hash is legal in some states. Only adults can buy it from certain dispensary

Ash.J.Williams · 27-05-2020 11:10AM

riclad wrote: »

I never used any drug, from what I know hash makes people feel relaxed, mellow.i think coke gives people a quick hit
of feeling good.people using hash are not angry or aggressive. I, m not saying everyone should use drugs
America has not fallen apart because hash is legal in some states. Only adults can buy it from certain dispensary

"I never used any drug"

that's where your post should have ended

dundalkfc10 · 27-05-2020 11:23AM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Thankfully I never took cocaine but I’ve seen fairly decent people go from happy go lucky people to paranoid and violent individuals within months .

Over the last 2 years one alleged casual user recently gave his wife a bad beating and she was granted a barring order in court against him seeing her or his two kids . He ended up renting in a local estate spending every Bob he had and more on cocaine .Last week the local travellers he has a cocaine debt with burnt his car out and gave him a fair slashing with knives across his legs and chest . Great world this cocaine brings you into to . He’s lost his wife his job and anything he had of value over these 2 years and it’s all done to his cocaine habit .

I know a lad the same except for it was alcohol, all down to alcohol.

B.A._Baracus · 27-05-2020 12:02PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Ever been to a sausage factory?

I know what you're getting at. I've read the amount of Shi*e that goes into sausages and you know what? ... Still nothing compared to cocaine.

Sure you'll never really know what you eat when it's store bought but give me something that's made in a country with some sort of food standard laws and hygiene, than some substance that's made by some poor Inca farmer up the mountains with bleach, kerosene and other chemicals.

And when you go down your local super valu it's not like they added their own sh*te too to plump up the sausage like your local drug dealer does too :pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 27-05-2020 12:07PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I know what you're getting at. I've read the amount of Shi*e that goes into sausages and you know what? ... Still nothing compared to cocaine.

Sure you'll never really know what you eat when it's store bought but give me something that's made in a country with some sort of food standard laws and hygiene, than some substance that's made by some poor Inca farmer up the mountains with bleach, kerosene and other chemicals.

And when you go down your local super valu it's not like they added their own sh*te too to plump up the sausage like your local drug dealer does too :pac:

you actually don't know what they add to sausages, i recall as a teenager being directed to throw meat that was left out over a bank holiday into the sausages (it was green) ...labels are just labels

mr_fegelien · 27-05-2020 12:58PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Thankfully I never took cocaine but I’ve seen fairly decent people go from happy go lucky people to paranoid and violent individuals within months .

Over the last 2 years one alleged casual user recently gave his wife a bad beating and she was granted a barring order in court against him seeing her or his two kids . He ended up renting in a local estate spending every Bob he had and more on cocaine .Last week the local travellers he has a cocaine debt with burnt his car out and gave him a fair slashing with knives across his legs and chest . Great world this cocaine brings you into to . He’s lost his wife his job and anything he had of value over these 2 years and it’s all done to his cocaine habit .

Is it drugs that did that or is it an underlying psychological problem exarcebated by any drug.

I'm sure the lad would have gone bat**** crazy on alcohol or amphetamines. Doesn't prove that the drug necessarily causes it but it brings it out in some individuals

B.A._Baracus · 27-05-2020 01:34PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

you actually don't know what they add to sausages, i recall as a teenager being directed to throw meat that was left out over a bank holiday into the sausages (it was green) ...labels are just labels

So... I guess you're saying your rather take cocaine than sausages?

LuasSimon · 27-05-2020 01:38PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

I know a lad the same except for it was alcohol, all down to alcohol.

Doubt very much travellers were calling to his house burning his car out and slashing his legs and back with stanley knives over owing money for drink

dundalkfc10 · 27-05-2020 02:38PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Doubt very much travellers were calling to his house burning his car out and slashing his legs and back with stanley knives over owing money for drink

Thats his own problem for buying drugs off travellers, even worse for it been on credit. I know plenty of lads who take drugs and none would even dream of getting them off a traveller.
Same as you wouldnt let them do your driveway would you?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 27-05-2020 10:13PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Doubt very much travellers were calling to his house burning his car out and slashing his legs and back with stanley knives over owing money for drink

Who buys alcohol from travellers?!

28-05-2020 08:31AM

The question in the opening post is “So, do you think cocaine users in Ireland have some responsibility for the gang warfare that is destroying parts of the country?”. The answer is very obviously “Yes, cocaine users have blood on their hands”. Rather than admit this simple fact all of the coke heads on this forum are arguing that the law in terms of possession needs to be changed. Although there may well be some merit in this argument it is an entirely different topic.

Hoop66 · 28-05-2020 11:23AM

Tomaldo · 12-12-2020 03:12AM

2011 wrote: »

The question in the opening post is “So, do you think cocaine users in Ireland have some responsibility for the gang warfare that is destroying parts of the country?”. The answer is very obviously “Yes, cocaine users have blood on their hands”. Rather than admit this simple fact all of the coke heads on this forum are arguing that the law in terms of possession needs to be changed. Although there may well be some merit in this argument it is an entirely different topic.

and if you support the war on drugs you also have blood on your hands. I'd prefer to buy my coke from legitimate sources. If cocaine is good enough for Paul McCartney, Keith Richards, Ronnie Wood or Rod Stewart, then it's good enough for me. Legalise

Get Real · 12-12-2020 03:29AM

Tomaldo wrote: »

and if you support the war on drugs you also have blood on your hands. I'd prefer to buy my coke from legitimate sources. If cocaine is good enough for Paul McCartney, Keith Richards, Ronnie Wood or Rod Stewart, then it's good enough for me. Legalise

If coke was legalised, you still have the issue of gang warfare, child labour, the use of petroleum soaking and chemical waste in the countries that produce the coca leaf for it.

I also find that those who do coke use legalisation as a deflection from their own choice and personal responsibility. I've never heard someone say "I won't take coke until it becomes legalised, and I'll campaign and research for that" they still do coke regardless.

It's like saying "I wouldn't have to drive home after 15 pints if the government provided decent rural transport". You can still choose not to drive after the 15 pints, and instead campaign for a community scheme.

Strumms · 12-12-2020 03:59AM

Tomaldo wrote: »

and if you support the war on drugs you also have blood on your hands. I'd prefer to buy my coke from legitimate sources. If cocaine is good enough for Paul McCartney, Keith Richards, Ronnie Wood or Rod Stewart, then it's good enough for me. Legalise

Some of the aforementioned musicians also took heroin too, in addition to other drugs... by this logic you believe heroin should be legalized ? All because four individuals who had a shared chosen career path took it ?

Phil Spector assaulted women and actually murdered a woman.. one of the best record producers in history apparently or according to some... I doubt that can be seen as a reason to legalize murder, or assault..

Tomaldo · 12-12-2020 10:49AM

Strumms wrote: »

Some of the aforementioned musicians also took heroin too, in addition to other drugs... by this logic you believe heroin should be legalized ? All because four individuals who had a shared chosen career path took it ?

Phil Spector assaulted women and actually murdered a woman.. one of the best record producers in history apparently or according to some... I doubt that can be seen as a reason to legalize murder, or assault..

Methadone is a heroin substitute given to addicts by the state, freely to addicts. That's called treatment but it's legalisation with a false mustache. Injection centres will be common place here soon and some countries give actual heroin to addicts. That drug is almost legal anyway. I'm not in favour of legalising murder or assault, those crimes involve a non-consenting victim. You're comparing apples to oranges with those examples.

Tomaldo · 12-12-2020 11:12AM

Get Real wrote: »

If coke was legalised, you still have the issue of gang warfare, child labour, the use of petroleum soaking and chemical waste in the countries that produce the coca leaf for it.

I also find that those who do coke use legalisation as a deflection from their own choice and personal responsibility. I've never heard someone say "I won't take coke until it becomes legalised, and I'll campaign and research for that" they still do coke regardless.

It's like saying "I wouldn't have to drive home after 15 pints if the government provided decent rural transport". You can still choose not to drive after the 15 pints, and instead campaign for a community scheme.

No it's not like driving after 15 pints, if I take coke the only damage I can do is to myself. If I drive a car intoxicated I could do harm to other innocent people.

bnt · 12-12-2020 12:46PM

I kind-of fail to see what cocaine could do, for me. that eight shots of espresso couldn't do. I would do neither on a night out, since I'm one of those people who need to sleep every night or I malfunction the next day. I'm no Hunter S. Thompson, whose daily routine looked something like this:

Thelonious Monk · 12-12-2020 12:56PM

Strumms wrote: »

Some of the aforementioned musicians also took heroin too, in addition to other drugs... by this logic you believe heroin should be legalized ? All because four individuals who had a shared chosen career path took it ?

Phil Spector assaulted women and actually murdered a woman.. one of the best record producers in history apparently or according to some... I doubt that can be seen as a reason to legalize murder, or assault..

I would legalise heroin before cocaine. It's not the type of drug people would buy after a few pints, which would be the case if cocaine was available. We would be better off giving pure clean heroin to our addicts instead of letting them buy the crap that they inject on the streets, which leads to clots and gangrene and amputations and other horrors.
We pretty much do give out heroin in the form of methadone anyway.

atilladehun · 12-12-2020 01:03PM

The problem legalising it here will always be other countries. Any politicians that brought in some laws that allow for drugs that are produced in other countries would be sanctioning all sorts of crimes en route. It's the exploitation of the poor men women and children that can't be fixed by one state.

Strumms · 12-12-2020 01:09PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I would legalise heroin before cocaine. It's not the type of drug people would buy after a few pints, which would be the case if cocaine was available. We would be better off giving pure clean heroin to our addicts instead of letting them buy the crap that they inject on the streets, which leads to clots and gangrene and amputations and other horrors.
We pretty much do give out heroin in the form of methadone anyway.

They choose, they have choices, they make choices.

If I become a heroin addict it’s because I go make the effort at the outset to procure it or make a decision to accept it if offered... I choose to be a user and end up being an addict.

Education re: drugs is available, you can’t blame ignorance, you can’t blame society... I know it’s unfashionable but in 2020 when people are asked to take personal responsibility and accept blame for their choices and mistakes ie. and fûcking held accountable, a deeply unfashionable expectation it seems, you get.. toys out of the pram.

Cocaine

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