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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #7502
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Which is old wives tale stuff. I had a confirmed case of swine flu. Felt weak and achy, but never took to the bed and was able to function albeit below par. The dose in January ditto(with extra dry coughing).

    well then aren't you just quiet the exception to gods rule eh, :D
    I think only Lex Luther can stop you Wibbs!

    on a serious note, the going to bed with FLU is natures way of saying, stop the spread. you stay in bed and you're not milling round so Flu almost dies with your recovery. Cold's cannot do much damage so we all soldier on and it spreads with nothing worse than the sniffles.

    I've had two bouts of Flu 18 years, last one was Aussie flu, 4 days in and I had to go the doc, ****ing horrible. Adults should not get Flu any more than once a decade, as you've been round longer. We are made of viruses too and every surface we touch we pic up more microbes and viruses but we need them. Think of what would happen if you never ever updated your computer....the first Virus would be your last most likely..... think of being out and about and being in contact with these little devils as merely updating your internal computer which strengthens your flora even.


  • #7503
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    A study of 96,032 patients, from 671 hospitals in six continents, investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19 was published in the Lancet today.

    It found that those drugs showed no evidence of benefit, but instead was associated with an increase in the risk of ventricular arrhythmias and a greater hazard for in-hospital death.

    So Dr Trump and Dr Bolsonaro's recommended treatment is useless and kills people.

    Am I surprised ?

    :rolleyes:


  • #7504
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    This common cold theory is very interesting. Must do some more research on it.


  • #7505
    Jim Bob Scratcher
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    A study of 96,032 patients, from 671 hospitals in six continents, investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19 was published in the Lancet today.

    It found that those drugs showed no evidence of benefit, but instead was associated with an increase in the risk of ventricular arrhythmias and a greater hazard for in-hospital death.

    So Dr Trump and Dr Bolsonaro's recommended treatment is useless and kills people.

    Am I surprised ?

    :rolleyes:

    It only works right when you combine it with bleach :pac:


  • #7506
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Oh. Mory Kante died because he couldn't get to France for treatment :(

    BBC News - Mory Kanté: African music star dies aged 70
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52774331


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  • #7507
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »
    It only works right when you combine it with bleach :pac:

    IV bleach is even better !!


  • #7508
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Briefing at 5:45, CMO will be present.


  • #7509
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    IV bleach is even better !!

    :cool:

    ShimmeringGargantuanBighornsheep-size_restricted.gif


  • #7510
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Oh. Mory Kante died because he couldn't get to France for treatment :(

    BBC News - Mory Kanté: African music star dies aged 70
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52774331

    Ah, noooo!!!!


  • #7511
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Not sure if anyone has posted this.
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1263807913908461569?s=20


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  • #7512
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has posted this.
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1263807913908461569?s=20

    Yup, thread on it here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058079950

    Not sure on it myself.


  • #7513
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Did I read that it was mandatory for large hardware stores to have designated times for vulnerable customers ? I can’t find any such hours for B and Q ?


  • #7514
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Yup, thread on it here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058079950

    Not sure on it myself.
    I think it's the right move. Making it a criminal offence forces people to act, and protects the country from future foreign infections should we eliminate the virus.


  • #7515
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭poppers


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has posted this.
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1263807913908461569?s=20

    What happens if you fly into belfast or derry can you drive to the rep and avoid the garda checking where you go


  • #7516
    Random sample
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Random sample


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Did I read that it was mandatory for large hardware stores to have designated times for vulnerable customers ? I can’t find any such hours for B and Q ?

    From phase 2 according to this https://assets.gov.ie/73722/ffd17d70fbb64b498fd809dde548f411.pdf


  • #7517
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone has posted this.
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1263807913908461569?s=20

    Talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
    The countries that introduced these measure months ago are now removing them again.

    Meanwhile we are only bringing them in now when they will prove of little or no benefit.


  • #7518
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I think it's the right move. Making it a criminal offence forces people to act, and protects the country from future foreign infections should we eliminate the virus.

    Its mandatory to fill in the form, the gardai dont have the man power or time to be going around checking.

    All too late for any of this. The EU want everyone to move together when borders start to open so can't see this lasting too long.

    Pretty pointless at this stage because it cant last for long when foreign travel resumes later in the summer probably.

    Simple way around it, fly in through Belfast


  • #7519
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    A study of 96,032 patients, from 671 hospitals in six continents, investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19 was published in the Lancet today.

    It found that those drugs showed no evidence of benefit, but instead was associated with an increase in the risk of ventricular arrhythmias and a greater hazard for in-hospital death.

    So Dr Trump and Dr Bolsonaro's recommended treatment is useless and kills people.

    Am I surprised ?

    :rolleyes:

    They are not doctors so anyone who'd take their advice is an idiot.

    What's more concerning and scandalous is that 96,000 people across the world were given this medication by real doctors, making their outcomes potentially worse.


  • #7520
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Its mandatory to fill in the form, the gardai dont have the man power or time to be going around checking.

    All too late for any of this. The EU want everyone to move together when borders start to open so can't see this lasting too long.

    Pretty pointless at this stage because it cant last for long when foreign travel resumes later in the summer probably.

    Simple way around it, fly in through Belfast
    The UK just announced mandatory quarantine for 14 days starting June 8th.


  • #7521
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Where in the phases does it deal with travelling abroad, or does it? E.G. if say France said you can travel is there anything preventing an Irish person travelling over there?


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  • #7522
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Kermit.de.frog wrote:
    Not sure on it myself.
    It's more stupidity. Set up a test and quarantine area, you get tested and remain in quarantine until the result of the test. If you pass off you go, if you don't then back home no entry.


  • #7523
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The UK just announced mandatory quarantine for 14 days starting June 8th.

    Irish are exempt


  • #7524
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The UK just announced mandatory quarantine for 14 days starting June 8th.

    Doesn't apply to Ireland.

    Either way our own one here its law to fill in the form, after that who's going to enforce it. Someone gets a call are you isolating, yeah I am, that's grand...

    3 months too late anyway and lasts until middle of June around the same time as most other EU countries relax border control.


  • #7525
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Where in the phases does it deal with travelling abroad, or does it? E.G. if say France said you can travel is there anything preventing an Irish person travelling over there?

    Essentially no there isn't


  • #7526
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,683 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's more stupidity. Set up a test and quarantine area, you get tested and remain in quarantine until the result of the test. If you pass off you go, if you don't then back home no entry.

    Problem is that you could be tested and be negative. 2 days later if you were tested you'd be positive


  • #7527
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Doesn't apply to Ireland.

    Either way our own one here its law to fill in the form, after that who's going to enforce it. Someone gets a call are you isolating, yeah I am, that's grand...

    3 months too late anyway and lasts until middle of June around the same time as most other EU countries relax border control.
    It doesn't really make a difference if it doesn't apply to Ireland. If someone tries to travel from another country to here through Ireland or the UK they'll have to quarantine.


  • #7528
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    A pragmatic way to do it would be to introduce quarantine regulations for people travelling from 'High Risk' countries but not from 'Low Risk' Countries.

    People with common sense were already calling for this back in February and March for travellers coming in from Italy and China for example (or coming back from Cheltenham).

    Another Idea would be to sell tests in the Airport as an alternative to Quarantine. (test negative on arrival and be allowed to move around 'cautiously') then maybe be required to take another test after 7 days to be fully free to go.

    Quarantining people coming in from fro example Germany, Iceland or New Zealand where the spread of the Virus has been completely limited seems absolutely daft.


  • #7529
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Is Tony back today? Simon Harris up now doing the whole Eoghan Murphy I've the jacket off and sleeves rolled up so am working look!


  • #7530
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    antodeco wrote: »
    Problem is that you could be tested and be negative. 2 days later if you were tested you'd be positive

    Then the other issue is knowingly placing a covid suffer on board an aircraft with other pax. You might have to take responsibility for the critters


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  • #7531
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It doesn't really make a difference if it doesn't apply to Ireland. If someone tries to travel from another country to here through Ireland or the UK they'll have to quarantine.

    How ? Connecting flights you dont leave the airport so you don't cross the border.

    What enforcement is there here, fill in the form and get a few phone calls to make sure your doing as your told.
    The Gardai dont have the time or man power to go around checking


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