Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Nah, I like my name. :cool:

Exhibit A on aggressiveness btw.

Exhibit all you want. I have never claimed to be a meek poster especially not when I am fed up of reading your spoofery and nonsense every day.

road_high wrote: »

It is if the takings and ability to sell are greatly constrained with higher costs they are. Pretty basic economics

A large queue tells me takings will be up. Basic logic

snowcat wrote: »

The EU has broadly similiar road laws. Speed limits are set by different countries as they see fit, similiar to counties in Ireland setting their speed limits on roads as they see fit. Motorways have a set standard. Alcohol similiar levels etc etc. Countries in Europe with the worst road death rates look to better performing countries to see what they are doing right and implement their measures. Can we not do the same for Covid? Now please spell out.

And we are one of the worst performing countries in Europe and a bit of a laughing stock internationally with our glacial lockdown policy so I dont think anyone will be looking to us for advice.

It’s going to embarrass you further to find out for the first time that most of Europe actually drives on the other side of the road. Like does the exact opposite of us.


Stop digging. Your nonsense in this road laws thing is frightening.

average_runner wrote: »

Only in certain regions of Spain.
They didn't queue outside McDonald's after lockdown like our idiots.

Ok yeah,

They probably don’t have that strain of virus like we have either, we got the one with the built in gps that knows your more than 5k from your home on an unnecessary journey and then can get ye really bad and becomes really aggressive, I think it’s called the garmin strain.

CruelSummer wrote: »

This thread has been continuously disrupted all day by people trying to pick a fight with those arguing for a speeding up in our exit from Ireland’s lockdown. I can only assume they’ve realised the majority of people now agree that our exit strategy is too slow and have come here for their ‘day in the sun’ before people have more to do than sit on boards all day.
What is the alternative plan put forward by those opposed? Another IMF bailout? Keep under restrictions indefinitely at any cost? Ignore all the new data emerging re prevalence of the virus falling across Europe despite countries continuing to lift the restrictions?

Trying to pick a fight? You mean expressing an opposing view?

CruelSummer wrote: »

This thread has been continuously disrupted all day by people trying to pick a fight with those arguing for a speeding up in our exit from Ireland’s lockdown. I can only assume they’ve realised the majority of people now agree that our exit strategy is too slow and have come here for their ‘day in the sun’ before people have more to do than sit on boards all day.
What is the alternative plan put forward by those opposed? Another IMF bailout? Keep under restrictions indefinitely at any cost? Ignore all the new data emerging re prevalence of the virus falling across Europe despite countries continuing to lift the restrictions?

So your making an assumption on everyone’s opinion and anyone that doesn’t agree is just being argumentative for the sake of it.

Conceited much?

snowcat wrote: »

Exact opposite with the exact same rules. Will you stop spouting ****e and spell out what you were going to spell out, you are just embarassing yourself now.

It must be past your bedtime.

Arghus wrote: »

Trying to pick a fight? You mean expressing an opposing view?

If you dont agree fully you are the enemy and must be defeated.

pjohnson wrote: »

If you dont agree fully you are the enemy and must be defeated.

What is your view then pjohnson? Let hear it? People are always very good at knocking others with no solutions offered themselves

lawrencesummers wrote: »

It’s going to embarrass you further to find out for the first time that most of Europe actually drives on the other side of the road. Like does the exact opposite of us.


Stop digging. Your nonsense in this road laws thing is frightening.

And they speak different languages. But they translate the same. I hate to break it to you but they have basically the same laws as us even if they drive on a different side of the road. Can you stop embarassing yourself and spell out what you said you would spell out or else I will just disregard you.

RobitTV wrote: »

Even if by some sort of overwhelming magical miracle the new cases hit 0 tomorrow, the lockdown merchants still won't be anywhere close to being satisfied.

Can you point to a single post where any poster wants a 'lock down'?

Thought not.

Nobody wants restrictions. There is a difference between wanting and needing.

The posts don't exist.

AdamD wrote: »

Genuinely could be wrong here but any comments I've seen have been more along the lines of 'its not set in stone', than any sort of hint towards the possibility of moving the timeline. The language hasn't suggested its likely at all. Plenty of comments saying we can go back a step though.

Presumably they want to guard against complacency.

Breezin wrote: »

Actually hilarious. She's Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology at the University of Oxford! You don't like her science and you're damned if you're gonna listen to it.

I read what she had to say and there nothing we haven't heard or seen already.

CruelSummer wrote: »

I’d prefer to just debate the issues. I don’t really think this kind of tit for tat gets anyone anywhere to be honest. Where do you stand on the current roadmap and where we go from here?

Your post attacked the people who disagree with you, not looking for discussion.

As for where I stand on it.... that will take some explaining.

I’m given to believe that it’s open to change, And it needs to be, not all of the rules have made sense to me but there has to be some hard and fast rule about things, when you make one exception you have to make hundreds.(The 5km thing doesn’t make sense for cycling alone, or driving to a golf course)

The restrictions seem overly cautious but thats not to be proven until we are out of the woods. The ultimate goal has to be avoidance of a second wave because a second lockdown is the worst possible outcome.

The roadmap doesn’t address international travel and that’s a major worry, we are very close to eradicating the presence of the disease here, but international travel is a risk for it returning.

I have the same belief about this that I have had since day one, there is no guidebook, no experienced tried and tested playbook for handling this Based upon Detailed peer reviewed scientific analysis of the disease and ultimately mistakes are guaranteed to be made along the way by those making decisions. I prefer that those mistakes are made in being over cautious, not overly optimistic.,

Open to early and risk another wave, open to late and the economy bounces back later. That’s the risk I see.