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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    The government need to establish that the cost of food must exceed that of alcohol.

    Prehaps a MCP ? (minimum calorie price) in the vain of MUP.
    Totally unworkable of course but no need for reality when suggesting more nannyism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    road_high wrote: »
    Some rubbish about not being “allowed” spend more than 2 hours in people’s company (like in the Dáil) or else you’ll die . More covid brain dead insanity

    Jesus we have been in work the whole time. 8 hrs per day. Dont think any of us are dead!! Will check tomorrow:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Great news. Things are finally starting to look up, hopefully we can bring the stages forward a bit whilst still being vigilant.

    Not a hope. The stages are well designed to keep things as manageable as possible going forward. We are were we planned to be. Just stick with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-05-20-ssi-vi-forstaar-ikke-hvorfor-der-ikke-er-flere-smittede

    Will have to use google translate, but basic gist is that the SSI in Denmark are confused by no rise in cases after 4 weeks of easing lockdown. Not sure if it’s down to people distancing or the virus weakening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not a hope. The stages are well designed to keep things as manageable s possible going forward. We are were we planned to be. Just stick with it.

    'Not a hope' ? What qualifies you to make such a concrete pronouncement?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not a hope. The stages are well designed to keep things as manageable s possible going forward. We are were we planned to be. Just stick with it.

    Are you not being a bit too precautions, London has seen its first 24hrs of no new cases, the link above details Denmark positive findings.
    Both tests in humans and monkeys have shown reinfection prevention is indeed happening in as much as 35 days post corona.

    Things are improving, and will be back to normal sooner than planned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Not looking good for the rest of the world

    Largest daily rise in global cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    New Home wrote: »

    It's a very American thing. Don't think calling those kind of people "Karen" works in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Onesea wrote: »
    Are you not being a bit too precautions, London has seen its first 24hrs of no new cases, the link above details Denmark positive findings.
    Both tests in humans and monkeys have shown reinfection prevention is indeed happening in as much as 35 days post corona.

    Things are improving, and will be back to normal sooner than planned.

    Attributable to an issue with their systems most likely


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Onesea wrote: »
    Are you not being a bit too precautions, London has seen its first 24hrs of no new cases, the link above details Denmark positive findings.
    Both tests in humans and monkeys have shown reinfection prevention is indeed happening in as much as 35 days post corona.

    Things are improving, and will be back to normal sooner than planned.

    It will be hard for Nphet and the present government to justify continuing the lockdown in its various forms for another 15 weeks, considering it has already been admitted by Holohan that the virus has been suppressed in the community.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not looking good for the rest of the world

    Largest daily rise in global cases

    Isn't that a good thing, more cases uncovered V same death rate. Drama headline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,613 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not looking good for the rest of the world

    Largest daily rise in global cases

    Unfortunately it looks like Latin America is getting decimated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,503 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    And as transmission in the general population has been more or less zero for four weeks - yes we would have seen it.
    Yes incubation period is that, then how long before you get tested? Then how long before there's results?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    It will be hard for Nphet and the present government to justify continuing the lockdown in its various forms for another 15 weeks, considering it has already been admitted by Holohan that the virus has been suppressed in the community.

    They might find it hard to break some good news to us for once haha

    But I often wonder how they can be sure on so many things they say, like community spread.. How do they have any confidence in infection rates if only so many have been tested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Onesea wrote: »
    Isn't that a good thing, more cases uncovered V same death rate. Drama headline.

    Takes time to die - and look at the countries reporting the figures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not looking good for the rest of the world

    Largest daily rise in global cases

    Looks like US, Brazil and Russia adding to the bulk while Europe trends somewhat downward. Haven’t checked Iran in a while tho, their graph does not look pleasant :(

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    The continent of Africa showing 3k deaths in total.

    How come outbreaks seem staggered between say the UK and Brazil?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    What's it like with take-away coffee now?

    Do they allow you to bring in your own cup or what? Or do they prepare your coffee in a non-reuseable cup and lid and hand it to you. I don't want somebody else handling the lid because that's where my mouth touch. But then I don't them leaving lids aside and letting customers pick their own lids using dirty hands.

    Getting a coffee used to be so easy, now there's all this thinking, who's touching what.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Slow day for George.

    This squirrel could have potentially died from covid.

    Could be rival squirrel drug dealers sending a message?

    World has gone mad.

    https://twitter.com/georgeleerte/status/1263107999385739265?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The place I use, with gloved hands uses a napkin to put the lid on and gives you the napkin (or they used to before this)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    It will be hard for Nphet and the present government to justify continuing the lockdown in its various forms for another 15 weeks, considering it has already been admitted by Holohan that the virus has been suppressed in the community.

    We have no evidence of the effects the current easing of restrictions have had on the reproductive number, no point going into phase 2 sooner only to find out after that the R0 went over 1.

    All well and good to say that other countries with similar easings have no seen a detrimental impact on R0, but this is Ireland and our general behaviors and levels of compliance under the current restrictions have yet to be demonstrated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    Harris has turned into a right little dictator over the last few weeks, he'd do well to remember that unlike Holohan it's the voters who decide if he still has a job after the next election.

    Tweeting yesterday having another pop at the US.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1262650275774545920

    Whatever your political views, the WHO's response to the crisis has been questionable at best. When we're on our absolute knees he's trumpeting the government handing over 10 million euro to them.

    He's so far detached from the reality of the situation it's incredible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yes incubation period is that, then how long before you get tested? Then how long before there's results?

    I’m not sure if you’re saying incubation is four weeks? I thought was up to 14 days incubation.

    And how many weeks do you think we should see transmission in general population at zero?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    lbj666 wrote: »
    We have no evidence of the effects the current easing of restrictions have had on the reproductive number, no point going into phase 2 sooner only to find out after that the R0 went over 1.

    All well and good to say that other countries with similar easings have no seen a detrimental impact on R0, but this is Ireland and our general behaviors and levels of compliance under the current restrictions have yet to be demonstrated.

    Italy is reopening far sooner than us even though it has been stated we were 3 weeks behind , yet they suffered the most in Europe. We are not a tactile people like the Italians, so prehaps you could explain why we will be so slow to lift restrictions. Our compliance is quite evident in the fact Holohan has stated the virus is suppressed in the community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    road_high wrote: »
    What if one spends 1 hour 55 mins...or 2 hr 5 mins. Does the risk of dying increase exponentially?

    no, but you'll be classed as a 'close contact' for contact tracing purposes if someone in the room subsequently tests positive for coronavirus... (you will have to quarantine / self isolate, and be tested)
    road_high wrote: »
    More covid brain dead insanity
    indeed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Onesea wrote: »
    They might find it hard to break some good news to us for once haha

    But I often wonder how they can be sure on so many things they say, like community spread.. How do they have any confidence in infection rates if only so many have been tested.

    That's why they're there and you aren't.
    We have tested a huge number: one of the better things we're high on the league tables for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Lyle


    It will be hard for Nphet and the present government to justify continuing the lockdown in its various forms for another 15 weeks, considering it has already been admitted by Holohan that the virus has been suppressed in the community.

    It has been suppressed, yeah. Has being the operative word, a past participle. We don't even know what the present status is on account of the poxy incubation period, let alone the future status, so they'll justify it based on those grounds. We'll start knowing a little bit in a week, we'll know more in 2 and we'll fully know (kinda) by 3.

    They might alter the sectors in the phases but three weeks between each phase really seems like the right way to go in terms of monitoring the progress of the disease.


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    You do realise this is actually proof of immunity don’t you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    no, but you'll be classed as a 'close contact' for contact tracing purposes if someone in the room subsequently tests positive for coronavirus... (you will have to quarantine / self isolate, and be tested)

    indeed...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-covid-19-ban-on-meetings-exceeding-two-hours-says-health-official-1.4258515?mode=amp

    The two hour was nonsense after all


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The government need to establish that the cost of food must exceed that of alcohol.

    6 x 2 euro a pints and 15euro plate of chips


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