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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #6872
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Arghus wrote: »
    They don't have the same appetite to interrogate Ronan as they usually do for Tony.

    I actually think Ronan is way more capable of dealing with tough questions


  • #6873
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I thought they stopped giving the age and sex of those that died?

    Why is that?


  • #6874
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Hrududu wrote: »
    Saw a fun one earlier. I was out for a spin on the bike, and had to slow down around Rathfarnham because a load of teenagers, maybe 10 or 12 of them were strung across the path on their bikes. From taking a guess based on what was going on it looked like an older man was giving out to them for being in a big group. I didn’t see it start but as I was going past (slowly as they took up the path and I wanted to be nosy) I heard one of the young fellas say “We can’t pass it on to people.” And as he said that one of his pals did a big exaggerated cough at the man. I mean, I thought that **** had died out a month ago.

    Oh and at a first glance they all looked like kids that would be described as “coming from good families.”

    You should have taken a photo and uploaded it everywhere. Some people need shaming.


  • #6875
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    It's becoming clear that they need to move the phases forward. Pubs are reopened on the sly and a a lot are distributing take away pints. Hair dressers all gone into the black market. And people buying clothes online. The big loser is the government.

    What exaggeration! Some pubs were trying to do takeaway pints. A very few hairdressers were operating clandestinely. People always bought clothes online.
    Bring anything forward wouldn't change this but could derail our recovery.


  • #6876
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    New Home wrote: »
    Which is what a lot of people have been doing all along, instead of voting with their heads.

    Yet numbers and infection rates dropping, strange.


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  • #6877
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    That 2 hour thing could have massive implications for workplaces. Shifts will be staggered but there could still be quite a few people affected.

    On testing/self-isolation, do people need to still self-isolate for the full 2 weeks even if test comes back as negative before then, right?


  • #6878
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I actually think Ronan is way more capable of dealing with tough questions

    He has a softer demeanor, but Tony sounds more authoritative. Even if they essentially say the same thing.


  • #6879
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I actually think Ronan is way more capable of dealing with tough questions

    Bit less assertive/defensive (sometime there's a fine line) but yeah has good responses.


  • #6880
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    What exaggeration! Some pubs were trying to do takeaway pints. A very few hairdressers were operating clandestinely. People always bought clothes online.
    Bring anything forward wouldn't change this but could derail our recovery.

    I think it's more common than you think, particularly with barbers and hair dressers.

    And 40% of pubs said they will reopen as restaurants at the end of June.


  • #6881
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    That 2 hour thing could have massive implications for workplaces. Shifts will be staggered but there could still be quite a few people affected.

    On testing/self-isolation, do people need to still self-isolate for the full 2 weeks even if test comes back as negative before then, right?

    Hes clarified that it applies to meetings really but it's only guidance. You won't see meetings in workplaces anyway and you can be sure that people are and will be working with people for more than 2 hours.


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  • #6882
    TheyDidWhat?!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭TheyDidWhat?!


    Was there any mention of why the CMO isn't there this evening?


  • #6883
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    You should have taken a photo and uploaded it everywhere. Some people need shaming.

    who, the old lad for stopping them?


  • #6884
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yeah they're also saying 79 new cases in the whole of England, no idea how accurate any of this is. I'd suggest not very but who knows
    There was 2,000 and something new cases today on BBC presser.


  • #6885
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Onesea wrote: »
    Why is that?

    I have no idea, but at a guess the age of death was mostly of those in their 70's / 80's hard to get compliance from younger people if they get the impression it's an 'old' person killer. Just my opinion though.


  • #6886
    double jobbing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭double jobbing


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Quite high death percentage for the Roma community

    I have little doubt Kitty Holland and the like will blame our society for this rather than personal responsibility.


  • #6887
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    I think it's more common than you think, particularly with barbers and hair dressers.

    And 40% of pubs said they will reopen as restaurants at the end of June.

    I think said they would is key. Whether HSE, HSA, Gardai etc say otherwise remains to be seen. Could cause licence issues when renewing their licence for eg if they do.

    I understand their point of view between restaurants and pubs but think people are conditioned to sit down at restaurants. Not sure it would be same in pubs unless you have tables and seats and ensure people don't go to other tables, only get up to use toilet. I'm not sure it's possible really.

    I think vinters also need to be seen doing something so if plan is rejected they can say they've done everything. Will have to wait and see sure


  • #6888
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    TheyDidWhat?! wrote: »
    Was there any mention of why the CMO isn't there this evening?

    No but he’s back tmrw they said


  • #6889
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    double jobbing wrote: »
    I have little doubt Kitty Holland and the like will blame our society for this rather than personal responsibility.

    Would you say the same for homeless people? If they get it, it's some moral failing? You're assuming living conditions, whether someone can self-isolate etc have no impact on possibility of being infected.


  • #6890
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I think said they would is key. Whether HSE, HSA, Gardai etc say otherwise remains to be seen. Could cause licence issues when renewing their licence for eg if they do.

    I understand their point of view between restaurants and pubs but think people are conditioned to sit down at restaurants. Not sure it would be same in pubs unless you have tables and seats and ensure people don't go to other tables, only get up to use toilet. I'm not sure it's possible really.

    I think vinters also need to be seen doing something so if plan is rejected they can say they've done everything. Will have to wait and see sure

    Theres no licence issues, if they have a restaurant licence they can open end of June based off that licence but it's only the ones that do food and you'll probably have to be having a meal. Theres more pubs currently going through the courts to get restaurant licenses without Garda objections so they're being approved and issued.

    If you just want to go in for a drink you'll be waiting until August.


  • #6891
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    TheyDidWhat?! wrote: »
    Was there any mention of why the CMO isn't there this evening?

    Probably cause he hasnt had a night off in 2 months


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  • #6892
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Hes clarified that it applies to meetings really but it's only guidance. You won't see meetings in workplaces anyway and you can be sure that people are and will be working with people for more than 2 hours.

    Ah yeah and other side of it is non-essential workers may not return to offices for forseeable future. I think going to a workplace when you don't need to and can do job elsewhere needs to change.

    Think some managers reluctant to go along with it as loss of control and think productivity would decrease but may increase. Pros and cons to both I think so will be interesting to see if there's long-term changes.


  • #6893
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    who, the old lad for stopping them?

    No, the little shíts acting the maggot.


  • #6894
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    My calculations have 1,564 active cases


  • #6895
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Theres no licence issues, if they have a restaurant licence they can open end of June based off that licence but it's only the ones that do food and you'll probably have to be having a meal. Theres more pubs currently going through the courts to get restaurant licenses without Garda objections so they're being approved and issued.

    If you just want to go in for a drink you'll be waiting until August.

    Yeah I guess roadmap differentiates between a pub and restaurant but if a pub has or gets a restaurant licence it's a bit of a grey area. By rights then they can obviously only serve drink with food so would be tricky to enforce I think.


  • #6896
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Keep it simple lads.


  • #6897
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Nope, we are the big losers. We are the government. Every man woman and child will pay for this , year's into the future through higher taxes and dwindling services.

    Pretty sure higher taxes and dwindling services is what we have had for the last decade as austerity taxes applied to income while big companies like Google, Apple etc have paid less and less at the expense of public services. The future will be to tax faceless corporates and assets over individuals.


  • #6898
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah I guess roadmap differentiates between a pub and restaurant but if a pub has or gets a restaurant licence it's a bit of a grey area. By rights then they can obviously only serve drink with food so would be tricky to enforce I think.

    Yeah complete grey area, and theres alot of them in this roadmap


  • #6899
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,708 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    is_that_so wrote: »
    This Karen thing is not working for me at all! :confused: Why not, say Grainne, Clodagh or Ciara?

    What's it supposed to mean anyway?


  • #6900
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    is_that_so wrote: »
    This Karen thing is not working for me at all! :confused: Why not, say Grainne, Clodagh or Ciara?
    Tony EH wrote: »
    What's it supposed to mean anyway?

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/karen


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  • #6901
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Is it just me who thinks two hours is a little long for close contacts? Surely if you’re in the vicinity of a positive case for as little as 30 minutes you could exposed.


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