Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 20-05-2020 06:05PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Does yer man get a tip off from the Gardai or what? He seems to be there anytime there's something like this. Bit of an ambulance chaser by the looks of things.

Every shooting etc he seems to be there within the hour, he's got pictures from raids as they happen which nobody should have information on. It's as if he's in a squad car

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 06:07PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

No you won't, esp. when you touch your face, we're all at it all the time without noticing it. Gloves affect how we use our hands meaning we can no longer use them unconsciously. Cos studies honest.

I have noticed the behaviour of people wearing gloves versus those who don't. The vast majority I have seen gloveless use sanitisers provided almost without fail, glove wearers not so much. My own personal opinion gloves are useless outside of a medical setting as MOST wearers of same are clueless.
Masks ( although there is idiots too who think just covering the mouth is enough)and good hand hygiene are far better to control the virus.

Princess Calla · 20-05-2020 06:07PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

With your bare flesh you would be very aware of what you touch and would minimise doing so as much as possible.
A shop local to my home will not allow customers to wear gloves on the premises instead hand sanitiser is provided. It's about respect for others. Even medical professionals will not wear the same gloves after examining a patient. Yet I see people in Supermarkets pawing everything whilst wearing gloves.

Not everyone can use hand sanitisers though.... I have dermatitis... Some sanitisers cause me to bleed straight away.... So what would your local shop prefer, blood or possible germs..... Out of respect for others

Eod100 · 20-05-2020 06:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Listening to the report on Drivetime about Nayo University Hospital still mixing staff handling Covid with non-Covid patients, and I’m absolutely appalled. This is going to play out as one of the scandals of the decade, more especially if we discover it’s happening in any other hospital. Almost deserves its own thread in this forum.

I heard. It's shocking. Not good enough to investigate after the fact when it's too late. Workers saying management not telling reality when interviewed by media.

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 06:10PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Who are these people??

All Brazilians apparently, how the guy who recorded the footage knows this i find fascinating. I hope he avoids travellers or he will be convinced we will be locked down till 2060.

lbj666 · 20-05-2020 06:10PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Does yer man get a tip off from the Gardai or what? He seems to be there anytime there's something like this. Bit of an ambulance chaser by the looks of things.

Of course the un intended consequence is probably them packing onto the DART all together

ACitizenErased · 20-05-2020 06:11PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

All Brazilians apparently, how the guy who recorded the footage knows this i find fascinating. I hope he avoids travellers or he will be convinced we will be locked down till 2060.

Watching the video they don’t look Irish to be honest. Strange stuff, is that area a Brazilian hotspot or what?

2ndcoming · 20-05-2020 06:12PM

Be right back wrote: »

Apparently there has been no new cases reported in London and the East England area within the last 24 hours.

I would put the chances of that being accurate in the less than zero category.

I wouldn't go so far as to say the Tories have somehow doctored the figures to assist in their self-created ideological battle with the teaching unions over re-opening schools in a couple of weeks, but the Tories would definitely doctor the figures to assist in their self-created ideological battle with the teaching unions over re-opening schools in a couple of weeks.

jams100 · 20-05-2020 06:14PM

lbj666 wrote: »

"The analyses for week 18 (a total of 1,104 analysed samples) show, as expected, the largest proportion of positive antibody tests in Stockholm. A total of 7.3% of the blood samples collected from people in Stockholm were positive in the antibody study, which can be compared with a total of 4.2% in Skåne and 3.7% in Västra Götaland.

The numbers reflect the state of the epidemic earlier in April, as it takes a few weeks for the body’s immune system to develop antibodies.

Regarding age differences, the results show that Covid-19 antibodies were most common among people between 20 and 64 years. In total, 6.7% of the samples in this group were positive, which can be compared with 4.7% in the age group 0-19 years and 2.7% in the age group 65-70 years."

So 7% of Stockholm have antibodies, despite more relaxed restrictions than other most countries. The spanish study had Madrid nearing 20% of the population despite being indoors for 2months

Its goes with my suspicion that sweden have been managing (although its debatable)with more lax restrictions because maybe there were less super spreaders in the country before it was noticed and restrictions came in place. .

In fairness with what restrictions have had they acted fast.

7% at the end of April!
Probably 15-20 today

lbj666 · 20-05-2020 06:14PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

I would put the chances of that being accurate in the less than zero category.

I wouldn't go so far as to say the Tories have somehow doctored the figures to assist in their self-created ideological battle with the teaching unions over re-opening schools in a couple of weeks, but the Tories would definitely doctor the figures to assist in their self-created ideological battle with the teaching unions over re-opening schools in a couple of weeks.

Better chance that Tony rocks up to press conference tonight with no new numbers to report and pulls a vile of proven 100% safe vaccine from his pocket.

lbj666 · 20-05-2020 06:15PM

jams100 wrote: »

7% at the end of April!
Probably 15-20 today

Madrid if i recall was over the same period.

Be right back · 20-05-2020 06:16PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

I would put the chances of that being accurate in the less than zero category.

I wouldn't go so far as to say the Tories have somehow doctored the figures to assist in their self-created ideological battle with the teaching unions over re-opening schools in a couple of weeks, but the Tories would definitely doctor the figures to assist in their self-created ideological battle with the teaching unions over re-opening schools in a couple of weeks.

I did say apparently!!

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 06:18PM

Princess Calla wrote: »

So what would your local shop prefer, blood or possible germs..... Out of respect for others

I don't speak for the owners of the shop but I guess if you don't / can't follow the hygiene policy you don't go in and ask someone that can to go in your stead. Just a guess on my part though.
Oddly I haven't seen anyone make an issue out of the policy

20-05-2020 06:20PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

All Brazilians apparently, how the guy who recorded the footage knows this i find fascinating. I hope he avoids travellers or he will be convinced we will be locked down till 2060.

The language and accent are (apparently) quite easy to detect by somebody who is any way familiar with it. Portuguese is a language with distinctive pronunciation, not easily confused with another, and is spoken somewhat differently either side of the Atlantic. Voices carry quite well in a beach setting where there is no traffic.

fleet_admiral · 20-05-2020 06:21PM

Nutgrove is pure madness. Sitting here in the queue for Mc Donald's because the wife and son want it. Queue is out of the shopping centre down around the corner to Harvey Norman. Normal traffic around the area is like Christmas eve.

Mr rebel · 20-05-2020 06:24PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Watching the video they don’t look Irish to be honest. Strange stuff, is that area a Brazilian hotspot or what?

Between the report last week of “mostly Brazilians” foiled at Dublin trying to leave the country without cancelling their Covid payment, and now this story today, I am worried that there is an anti-Brazilian sentiment starting to grow which is very unfair.

20-05-2020 06:24PM

Don’t know exactly what’s going on here, but it’s reported 4 hours ago:

http://www.con-telegraph.ie/2020/05/20/sharp-drop-in-number-of-vacant-general-beds-at-mayo-hospital/

MD1990 · 20-05-2020 06:25PM

0 new cases in London today.

Seems like they are starting to see a bit of heard immunity possibly

Arghus · 20-05-2020 06:25PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I have noticed the behaviour of people wearing gloves versus those who don't. The vast majority I have seen gloveless use sanitisers provided almost without fail, glove wearers not so much. My own personal opinion gloves are useless outside of a medical setting as MOST wearers of same are clueless.
Masks ( although there is idiots too who think just covering the mouth is enough)and good hand hygiene are far better to control the virus.

We don't agree on much, but I agree with you on this.

Akrasia · 20-05-2020 06:27PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I have noticed the behaviour of people wearing gloves versus those who don't. The vast majority I have seen gloveless use sanitisers provided almost without fail, glove wearers not so much. My own personal opinion gloves are useless outside of a medical setting as MOST wearers of same are clueless.
Masks ( although there is idiots too who think just covering the mouth is enough)and good hand hygiene are far better to control the virus.

I wear disposable gloves when I'm shopping, I have been trained in how t aseptically put them on and remove them, I also spray them with soapy water after I put them on and before I leave the car (after the door is already open)
I do my shopping, touchng only what I need to (and you need to check things like expiry dates, the condition of fruits and veg, as well as ingredients sometimes)

I never touch my face or my phone, or the inside of my car while wearing the gloves and when I have the car loaded and am bringing the trolley back as soon as it is returned, I take my gloves off aesceptically, dispose of them in the bin and go back to my car where I I wipe my keys with disenfectant wipe and then wash my hands again with a spray of soapy water I that keep in the car

By doing this, I do as much as I possibly can to make sure I do not spread any virus particles from me to the shop, or from the shop to me or my car.

So they can be effective if used properly, problem is that lots of people don't know how to use them properly

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 06:29PM

Arghus wrote: »

We don't agree on much, but I agree with you on this.

It's ok, I know you won't make a habit of it. ;-)

FishOnABike · 20-05-2020 06:30PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Well, no - r0 at its highest was approx 4 here. Healthcare system wasn’t overwhelmed.

R0 less than 1 is goal for suppression, but there is scope above 1 to still contain spread.

Our healthcare system wasn't overwhelmed because we implemented unprecedented restrictions to reduce transmission, reduce the rate of growth and ultimately reduce the number of active cases.

If the R0 value is above 1 the number of cases will grow. At 1 it will remain constant. Below one it will reduce. The average can waver around 1 and maintain a stable number of current cases but if the average is consistently above 1, even by a small amount, it's just a question of how long it would take to overrun our healthcare system.

Back in April, Angela Merkel commented that If the reproduction number of one were to go up to 1.1, the German health system could be overwhelmed by October. If it were to go up to 1.2, hospitals could reach a crisis point in July, and if it went up to 1.3 the crisis point would come in June.

Ours would be no different. A consistent R0 above 1 would eventually overwhelm our he health system.

Arghus · 20-05-2020 06:32PM

FishOnABike wrote: »

Our healthcare system wasn't overwhelmed because we implemented unprecedented restrictions to reduce transmission, reduce the rate of growth and ultimately reduce the number of active cases.

If the R0 value is above 1 the number of cases will grow. At 1 it will remain constant. Below one it will reduce. The average can waver around 1 and maintain a stable number of current cases but if the average is consistently above 1, even by a small amount, it's just a question of how long it would take to overrun our healthcare system.

Back in April, Angela Merkel commented that If the reproduction number of one were to go up to 1.1, the German health system could be overwhelmed by October. If it were to go up to 1.2, hospitals could reach a crisis point in July, and if it went up to 1.3 the crisis point would come in June.

Ours would be no different. A consistent R0 above 1 would eventually overwhelm our he health system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22SQVZ4CeXA

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 06:33PM

"Akrasia wrote: »

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So they can be effective if used properly, problem is that lots of people don't know how to use them properly

I have no doubt some people know the correct etiquette of wearing gloves, but the majority of those I have witnessed don't. Anecdotal I know but that is my experience.

New Home · 20-05-2020 06:33PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

O’Leary should get on a packed flight from Luton to prove the measures work. In times of crisis look at what people do and not what they say.

Who was that guy (in the US, I think) who went around shaking hands with Covid patients to prove it wasn't worse than the flu end ended up dying from it? Then there's Boris... :rolleyes:

Gael23 · 20-05-2020 06:33PM

What’s the delay in today’s announcement about?

silverharp · 20-05-2020 06:34PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

https://twitter.com/padraig_reilly/status/1263149798963720192?s=20

in fairness catching at a beach is about the least likely way, and we are supposed to be working on our Vitamin D. The Gardaí are turning into Karens

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 06:36PM

silverharp wrote: »

in fairness catching at a beach is about the least likely way, and we are supposed to be working on our Vitamin D. The Gardaí are turning into Karens

I think the cultural meaning of 'Karen' will have to become a 'sticky' on Boards.

is_that_so · 20-05-2020 06:37PM

Gael23 wrote: »

What’s the delay in today’s announcement about?

They lost a day to the Dail yesterday and had to catch up!

owlbethere · 20-05-2020 06:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Listening to the report on Drivetime about Nayo University Hospital still mixing staff handling Covid with non-Covid patients, and I’m absolutely appalled. This is going to play out as one of the scandals of the decade, more especially if we discover it’s happening in any other hospital. Almost deserves its own thread in this forum.

Did you mean Mayo hospital?

It's appalling. How can anyone have confidence going to hospital with other conditions for other hospital treatment with that happening?

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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