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whisky_galore · 20-05-2020 04:00PM

Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form.
People are such brainless unimaginative sheep.

Stormyteacup · 20-05-2020 04:00PM

Quote: eagle eye
Of it's happening three weeks we wouldn't have results yet.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Incubation period is 5-14 days, so yes we would have seen it.

And as transmission in the general population has been more or less zero for four weeks - yes we would have seen it.

ACitizenErased · 20-05-2020 04:01PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Quote: eagle eye
Of it's happening three weeks we wouldn't have results yet.

And as transmission in the general population has been more or less zero for four weeks - yes we would have seen it.

The constant berating of people out shopping on here is laughable. There’s a problem with everything. We have seen no evidence of any sort of spread in shops.

tobefrank321 · 20-05-2020 04:03PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form.
People are such brainless unimaginative sheep.

Wait until the pubs open. They won't be open a week before they have to close again because of stuff like this.

But yes agreed, brainless sheep is a good description.

peterofthebr · 20-05-2020 04:04PM

allot more people out and about and im seeing people becoming more complacient in shops. i have two n95 masks i wear on rotation when i go to the shops. im glad i do. i dont know but another wave is enivatable - but i guess were more prepaired then back in march, so it should not be as bad?

blade1 · 20-05-2020 04:04PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form.
People are such brainless unimaginative sheep.

You could say they caused a McFlurry

bekker · 20-05-2020 04:06PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Just at drove up my town and observed road works being carried and four guys not doing anything while a mini-digger did it's thing. Two of them were standing about two feet apart chatting away with no gloves or facemasks or anything. There was at most about two and a half metres between the ones on either side of the four.
This is what we are facing now. We'll see community spread jump quickly by the looks of things. My wife stopped shopping and came home last night due to too many people not adhering to the social distancing guidelines. I've observed people less than a metre apart on numerous occasions over the last couple of days. Basically every time I leave my house it's there to be seen.
We're heading for another lockdown.

Saw the same thing yesterday, passed a crew of LA workers setting up to work on underground piping. All properly masked and distanced and area roped off to maintain distancing.

Returning 20 minutes later, manhole cover removed, one guy head down inside manipulating something, three others looking over shoulders, touching and bracing each other for balance!

But that's the way they are accustomed to working as it allows for fast communication and analysis, can't see how that can be overcome without extensive duplication of inspection and communication equipment.

Without that investment, it'll be down to the level of very fast testing, tracking and tracing that we appear to be incapable of achieving.

podgeandrodge · 20-05-2020 04:10PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form.
People are such brainless unimaginative sheep.

Is there an article about this?

Gregor Samsa · 20-05-2020 04:11PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form.
People are such brainless unimaginative sheep.

It seems to be the case that the Gardai are being called because of traffic obstruction issues (the queues are cars, not pedestrians), not because of violations of the public health regulations. There's also no indication that they've actually had to do anything. Just because Gardai are called or turn up, it doesn't necessiarly mean there's an actionable issue.

Article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-called-to-mcdonalds-as-huge-queues-form-at-reopened-restaurants-1000621.html

Strazdas · 20-05-2020 04:11PM

bekker wrote: »

Saw the same thing yesterday, passed a crew of LA workers setting up to work on underground piping. All properly masked and distanced and area roped off to maintain distancing.

Returning 20 minutes later, manhole cover removed, one guy head down inside manipulating something, three others looking over shoulders, touching and bracing each other for balance!

But that's the way they are accustomed to working as it allows for fast communication and analysis, can't see how that can be overcome without extensive duplication of inspection and communication equipment.

Without that investment, it'll be down to the level of very fast testing, tracking and tracing that we appear to be incapable of achieving.

If the same crews are working alongside each other every day, I'm not sure it's that much of an issue. Social distancing rules are primarily meant to keep you from coming into close contact with dozens of complete strangers on a day to day basis.

whisky_galore · 20-05-2020 04:12PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Is there an article about this?

Google is your friend but since I've nothing better to do.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-called-to-mcdonalds-as-huge-queues-form-at-reopened-restaurants-1000621.html

Mwengwe · 20-05-2020 04:15PM

Question>

I can't drive and the only shop within walking distance is destroying me finances-wise, it can work out 5 times the cost of a big shop in Lidl

Would taking a train to Lidl/Dunnes and back home again be dodgy behaviour? I'm not sure about it.

podgeandrodge · 20-05-2020 04:16PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Google is your friend but since I've nothing better to do.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-called-to-mcdonalds-as-huge-queues-form-at-reopened-restaurants-1000621.html

Good idea whisky.

whisky_galore wrote: »

Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form.
People are such brainless unimaginative sheep.

Irish Times:
The reopening of six McDonald’s drive-thrus in Dublin hardly represents an epoch moment in world history, but for those queuing for the return of the Big Mac it meant a glimpse of normality after months of lockdown.

Staff wore face masks and there were perspex screens at the drive thru windows - though a drive thru was a form of social distancing before the concept was created.

Some might sniff that McDonald’s is a symbol of our calorific and consumerist lifestyle, but who cares when you have been cooped up at home for weeks on end?

Cars that turned up early to the McDonald’s in Kylemore Road, Dublin were turned away as the car park was not open. A few parked on the verges outside. As soon as the bollards went down, the cars streamed in.

Within a few minutes they were backed up on the Kylemore Road right up and around the corner to the very busy Naas Road which is one of the main approach roads into Dublin. At one stage gardaí arrived to sort out the congestion.

McDonald’s intends to open the rest of its drive thrus in Ireland in early June.

So, can you align this with your statement that "Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form. People are such brainless unimaginative sheep"?

Which was clearly suggesting there was some public health issue as a result, not just traffic management.

An Ciarraioch · 20-05-2020 04:18PM

HSE briefing at 6.30 tonight.

Gregor Samsa · 20-05-2020 04:19PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Question>

I can't drive and the only shop within walking distance is destroying me finances-wise, it can work out 5 times the cost of a big shop in Lidl

Would taking a train to Lidl/Dunnes and back home again be dodgy behaviour? I'm not sure about it.

Dodgy in what way? There's nothing in the regulations stopping you from doing so, so it's not legally dodgy. But you're certainly increasing your risk of exposure and/or transmission by being on public transport, so you'd be wise to take the necessary precautions to reduce that risk as much as you can. So you could regard it as dodgy in that way.

If you're asking if it's dodgy in the eyes of the Court Of Board's Opinion, I guess you'll find out soon enough! Some people think sticking your head out your front door is dodgy, some think it's all a waste of time. I think most people, though, sit in the reasonable middle.

Mwengwe · 20-05-2020 04:21PM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Dodgy in what way? There's nothing in the regulations stopping you from doing so, so it's not legally dodgy. But you're certainly increasing your risk of exposure and/or transmission by being on public transport, so you'd be wise to take the necessary precautions to reduce that risk as much as you can. So you could regard it as dodgy in that way.

If you're asking if it's dodgy in the eyes of the Court Of Board's Opinion, I guess you'll find out soon enough!

Well I know they have people at some stations asking where people are going and if their journeys are necessary, not sure what they'd think of my case.

Can't imagine the train being too busy, even pre-pandemic it (my journey anyway) was sparsely used most days

stargazer 68 · 20-05-2020 04:23PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Well I know they have people at some stations asking where people are going and if their journeys are necessary, not sure what they'd think of my case.

You have to go the shops! You may never come across anyone at the stations or you may.

AlmightyCushion · 20-05-2020 04:25PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Good idea whisky.

Irish Times:
The reopening of six McDonald’s drive-thrus in Dublin hardly represents an epoch moment in world history, but for those queuing for the return of the Big Mac it meant a glimpse of normality after months of lockdown.

Staff wore face masks and there were perspex screens at the drive thru windows - though a drive thru was a form of social distancing before the concept was created.

Some might sniff that McDonald’s is a symbol of our calorific and consumerist lifestyle, but who cares when you have been cooped up at home for weeks on end?

Cars that turned up early to the McDonald’s in Kylemore Road, Dublin were turned away as the car park was not open. A few parked on the verges outside. As soon as the bollards went down, the cars streamed in.

Within a few minutes they were backed up on the Kylemore Road right up and around the corner to the very busy Naas Road which is one of the main approach roads into Dublin. At one stage gardaí arrived to sort out the congestion.

McDonald’s intends to open the rest of its drive thrus in Ireland in early June.

So, can you align this with your statement that "Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form. People are such brainless unimaginative sheep"?

Which was clearly suggesting there was some public health issue as a result, not just traffic management.

This is still something I just don't get. Don't get me wrong I've had a few McDonald's in my time and it hits the spot but why in the name of fúck are people queuing ages for it? It's not that good.

whisky_galore · 20-05-2020 04:26PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So, can you align this with your statement that "Gardai called to several McDonald's as massive queues form. People are such brainless unimaginative sheep"?

Which was clearly suggesting there was some public health issue as a result, not just traffic management.

Well if they thought "Oh it's not open" or "Oh it's too crowded"..."let's do something else".

It's the first ****ing day, just not go on the first day or have a back up plan. Yes I still think they are idiots. People still form epic queues, too stubborn to give up. You would swear there was no food to be had elsewhere.

OscarMIlde · 20-05-2020 04:26PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Of course... but re-opening the economy must be done slowly and safely, otherwise disaster beckons. A pile of dead people do not help any economy, they don't spend, they don't consume and they don't work !

Simple really !

A glimpse of the fwits, panty sniffers and assorted fruitcakes who attended the Anti-lockdown protests around the world recently.

Britain

USA

Germany

We have muppets like that here. Was at the bus stop last week coming home from work, when a woman walked past me looking at me funnily. I missed a bus, so had 20 minutes to wait and took the opportunity to ring my mother (who I haven't seen since end of Feb due to this). A few minutes later the woman walked right into me on purpose and proceeded to stick up a professional looking covid 19 is a hoax poster on to a nearby pole. I reckon she saw from my badge I work in a hospital and decided I was part of the plot to usher in the New World Order so it was alright to bash into me. I was raging.

Gregor Samsa · 20-05-2020 04:26PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Well I know they have people at some stations asking where people are going and if their journeys are necessary, not sure what they'd think of my case.

I'll take your word for that, I don't see anything on the Irish Rail site about checks. Food shopping is a necessary activity. No one is going to stop you from a reasonable journey to buy food. Obviously travelling from Limerick to Dublin to go to M&S would be hard to justify as reasonable or essential, but getting to your nearest supermarket would be. Not everyone lives within reasonable walking distance of a supermarket.

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 04:31PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

This is still something I just don't get. Don't get me wrong I've had a few McDonald's in my time and it hits the spot but why in the name of fúck are people queuing ages for it? It's not that good.

People crave normality, I'm no fan of the stuff but it gives people a taste of what life was like a few short months ago. Also despite some comments here, it's not unique to Ireland.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mcdonalds-fans-queue-3-hours-21911618

pc7 · 20-05-2020 04:34PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Question>

I can't drive and the only shop within walking distance is destroying me finances-wise, it can work out 5 times the cost of a big shop in Lidl

Would taking a train to Lidl/Dunnes and back home again be dodgy behaviour? I'm not sure about it.

Buymie app delivers lidl shop but you e to pay, still might work out cheaper

robbiezero · 20-05-2020 04:46PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

What do you mean if? The supermarkets have been crazy since day 1, anyone who has been on one will agree

Supervalu in Killester is my local. Outside all fine with queuing and distancing. All goes out the window once inside, not much SV can do in fairness to them. This is from day 1.
The first few weeks i only went late at night or early morning to avoid the madness, but as time went on I stopped giving a ****e and went at whatever time suited me.
Same cashiers there any day i went, handling customer phones, receipts, good etc and I dont think any of them caught it.

OscarMIlde · 20-05-2020 04:49PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My daughter in law to be has had a life changing organ transplant cancelled due to this. She's in her mid 20's. No timescale given as to when the operation will happen.

It was most likely not cancelled due to the lockdown but due to the inherent risks of contracting Sars-CoV-2 while on immunosupressants following a transplant. The lockdown will enable your daughter in law to get her organ transplant by reducing the incidence of covid 19 in the community.

bekker · 20-05-2020 04:52PM

Strazdas wrote: »

If the same crews are working alongside each other every day, I'm not sure it's that much of an issue. Social distancing rules are primarily meant to keep you from coming into close contact with dozens of complete strangers on a day to day basis.

While I agree on the practical aspect, don't think think that that is objective of the regulations being rolled out, mandating 2m distancing and maximum enclosed space contact times.

As I have posted previously there is a lack of practicality in the regulations, driven by the mindset of the various Ministries involved, and their penchant for diktat rather than promoting realistic ground up solutions.

Princess Calla · 20-05-2020 04:52PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Question>

I can't drive and the only shop within walking distance is destroying me finances-wise, it can work out 5 times the cost of a big shop in Lidl

Would taking a train to Lidl/Dunnes and back home again be dodgy behaviour? I'm not sure about it.

I don't wear a mask going out, but if I was getting on public transport I definitely would.

So if I was you, I'd have a mask on. Wear a pair of gloves on the transport bin them when you get off, hand sanitise your hands.. Fresh pair of gloves for shopping, bin when finished hand sanitise your hands. Final pair of gloves for transport, bin and sanitise hands.

I'd probably carry stuff home in a backpack that can be fecked in the washing machine after....or else keep the bag away from everything and only use it for public transport.

Personally I don't think supermarkets are a big risk, public transport I'm not overly confident on.... I would also change my clothes (but then I shower and change after a supermarket trip in the car... So

)

Plumbthedepths · 20-05-2020 04:52PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

It was most likely not cancelled due to the lockdown but due to the inherent risks of contracting Sars-CoV-2 while on immunosupressants following a transplant. The lockdown will enable your daughter in law to get her organ transplant by reducing the incidence of covid 19 in the community.

Thanks for your reply but I'll go with what she was told by her consultant and then relayed by her to us.

RebelButtMunch · 20-05-2020 05:00PM

Princess Calla wrote: »

I don't wear a mask going out, but if I was getting on public transport I definitely would.

So if I was you, I'd have a mask on. Wear a pair of gloves on the transport bin them when you get off, hand sanitise your hands.. Fresh pair of gloves for shopping, bin when finished hand sanitise your hands. Final pair of gloves for transport, bin and sanitise hands.

I'd probably carry stuff home in a backpack that can be fecked in the washing machine after....or else keep the bag away from everything and only use it for public transport.

Personally I don't think supermarkets are a big risk, public transport I'm not overly confident on.... I would also change my clothes (but then I shower and change after a supermarket trip in the car... So )

Why would you sanitize your hands after taking your gloves off?

Dante7 · 20-05-2020 05:04PM

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