Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

MipMap wrote: »

Moronic.
Provide some statistical evidence of how many people have died or how many children's developments have been impared during a 7 week lockdown.
Scaremongering Nonsense.

Not statistical evidence but I'll give you one story.

Autism treatments and assessments are not happening. There is already such a long list for this that people have to try and scrape money together to go the private route for this. Even the private assessments are not currently happening. So what, says you? Well for starters the system in this country is as such that even though we know for a fact that a child suffers from Autism (verified by early intervention team), we need to get a clinical diagnosis to be able to access any services. Not alone that, a diagnosis is required in order to gain a place in either an ASD preschool and an ASD unit in primary school.

Due to the length of wait we have missed the last available space in our schools ASD unit (the same school his sibling (not ASD) goes to). Mental health is already treated with contempt in this country and developmental issues for children are already poorly funded and difficult (in some cases impossible) to access.

So it might just be "7 weeks" as you call it now, but with these developmental issues the earlier that services can be accessed is crucial and lost time snowballs as I have outlined above.

So, this is just one individual case, but apply this across the entire health service in both mental, child and acute services and it starts to become clear that there will be serious issues for people down the line if these services don't start back up, especially the ones that can be done safely.

Bridge93 wrote: »

Thats to Waterford City i wouldve thought? Surely cant be much more than 10km to the waterford border. then again I'm a Dub so I'll bow to those will greater local knowledge than myself

About 20 minutes to Tallow and Lismore in West Waterford.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fermoy is in Cork, no?

One of the symptoms of the virus is inflammation of counties. If a second wave hits us, none of us will know where live, our car reg will mean nothing, and Kilkenny will be great at football. We must stop this.

Can I just get clarification on something? Are non-essential offices allowed to re=open?

ie. ones that can't function in their role Working From Home?

Amount of people at a given time in there can hit up to around 30

A disaster heaped on a disaster...

Super Cyclone Amphan, one of the most powerful cyclones in decades in the Bay of Bengal, is crossing the low lying coast on the border between India and Bangladesh at the present moment. Millions have being evacuated or are packing into shelters with little chance of social isolation.

They did not need this...



"India and neighboring Bangladesh are both struggling with rising coronavirus infections. Just this week, India reported it had crossed 100,000 infections.

Before Cyclone Amphan was on India’s radar screen, the authorities there decided to repurpose hundreds of emergency shelters and turn them into Covid-19 quarantine centers, which has now left them with fewer shelters at the time of a cyclone.

The authorities are trying not to pack the shelters to capacity — some can house thousands. But many shelters are filled wall to wall with people. Still, because of fears of catching the coronavirus, many villagers were reluctant to seek refuge inside the packed shelters."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/world/asia/cyclone-amphan.html

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It's been a great time for wildlife all the same


https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1262071031591849987

Considering wild boar are extremely dangerous and can spread rabies, tuberculosis and hepatitis that's fairly worrying.

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Phase Four (currently July 20) currently says "return to work for those who cannot work from home". So that's when non-essential offices where people can't work from home will be able to open.

Phase 5 (August 10) has "return to work across all sectors".

But, there's going to be regulations and restrictions that will have to be adhered to. For instance, desk seating will have to be at least 2 meters apart, the'll be restrictions on meeting rooms and common areas. So it won't necessarily be the case that all 30 people will be able to work at the same time.

Phase 5 all sectors does this include cafes and bars ?

bekker wrote: »

Strength, decisiveness, clarity, competence, equity, consistency, and compassion are generally acknowledged to be common attributes of good leadership.

Arden, among a few other international leaders score highly across the given attributes.

Rated on a 0-10 scale for each attribute, few if any of our current crop of political leaders in Ireland would exceed an overall total of 20.

Anytime I saw anything on any news channel during this crisis about NZ, it was Arden speaking decisively.
It was almost like she was calling the shots in that country. Not a Chief Medical Officer to be seen.

* TBH I don't really have much complaint about our CMO lad, but I find it baffling that he is the main man in the country during this crisis.

US2 wrote: »

Phase 5 all sectors does this include cafes and bars ?

Cafes and restaurants are actually currently scheduled to open June 29.

Pubs are in with "all sectors" on August 10. That's what the debate going on is about - they're trying to open earlier than August 10 along with restaurants. But that's where they are on the road-map at the moment.

Obviously, all of this is conditional on implementing the various hygiene and social distancing guidelines.


https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/44-of-dublin-pubs-planning-to-reopen-as-restaurants-at-end-of-june-survey-1000650.html

is_that_so wrote: »

It sounds like it needs to be clarified a good bit more. It's not workable over any length of time if it works as it seems.

The 2 hour thing is if someone tests positive then anyone in the same room as them for 2 hours or more is considered a contact and should be tested.

Tipped the 5m mark worldwide. Of course millions rode it out, stayed at home with their minor sniffle, never needed a test.

CruelSummer wrote: »

To be fair Kermit, I think you are exaggerating what is going to happen and how severe this situation is. If you look at Australia and New Zealand for example - they’re heading into their winter now. By all accounts the virus is not affecting them severely at all, both countries are reopening. Australia never had as severe a lockdown as us to begin with. We should keep an eye on how their flu season and winter progresses as an indicator over the next few months.

Australia and New Zealand effectively stopped the virus getting a foothold in the first place through strict quarantine protocols for incoming travellers. We can't really extrapolate from what happens there over the next few months to our own situation as we are both starting out from a different position and have different ongoing conditions e.g. remoteness + high control over border entry vs proximity and porous, uncontrollable borders.

Another Aer Lingus flight just left Dublin for Beijing.

pc7 wrote: »

To collect gear?

Gear mostly comes from Afghanistan.