Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Arghus · 19-05-2020 06:20PM

AdamD wrote: »

Right and if this was a massive deal case numbers would be skyrocketing? But they aren't.

I don't see your point. We shouldn't bother with it at all? Is that it? So no heed given to any preventative measures?

Eod100 · 19-05-2020 06:20PM

normanoffside wrote: »

There's no demand.

I'm not sure how much wider testing criteria could be but maybe they could have tested anyone going back to work this week say before they mix with people outside their household in work and on public transport.

Not sure could they test anyone coming back into the country also at ports and airports say while travel is so reduced now.

ACitizenErased · 19-05-2020 06:21PM

is_that_so wrote: »

No, there's now capacity for 100,000 if required. That's not spare tests.

I think his point is still valid though. We should be aiming to use almost all the capacity, this should be a continuous drive.

Arghus · 19-05-2020 06:22PM

mean gene wrote: »

I see social distancing all over cork city tesco aldi and lidl still going on. Now, argos mahon sucks for it

I think I work in a particularity lax spot. I've heard that some other stores take it far more seriously, but it's definitely not the case where I am.

normanoffside · 19-05-2020 06:22PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Then you create demand which potentially allows us to speed up the opening of things. If there’s 60,000 spare tests. Get workers in certain industries tested or whatever tested and see if we can open a few more things in a more timely manner. There goal is to supposedly test half the country by Christmas all those people won’t be sick or showing symptoms. Their goal was obviously to test asymptomatic at some stage. Test those entering the country

Agreed but a test only catches you in a moment, testing half the country is useless for most people (unless it's an antibody tests to show you already ahd it).

You could be clear today and positive next week, negative the week after.

You'd nearly need to start testing everyone every week or at least fortnight.

mean gene · 19-05-2020 06:23PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

A second wave is to be expected, sooner or later this year

People had it here in Dec and Jan is this not the 2nd wave

Eod100 · 19-05-2020 06:23PM

MattS1 wrote: »

If there's only 50 odd new cases today, would it not make more sense to keep the lockdown for about month or two as is. Then completely eliminate it and test everyone coming in and out of the country?

Yeah I think either that or test everyone going back to work.

I guess test is only useful at point test is taken so only a snapshot but no harm to have done it before people went back to work this week say.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-05-2020 06:23PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

No evidence any such thing as herd immunity. From the now discredited Vallance in UK.

No evidence we'll ever had a vaccine either, what's your point?

NegativeCreep · 19-05-2020 06:24PM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I decided to steer clear of Aldi and Lidl from the beginning. Their layouts and attitude just don't lend themselves to social distancing or even common courtesy in my experience.

I haven't seen a queue outside my local Tesco at all, although I've only been late in the evening. Inside has been mostly OK, but the thursday night before the May weekend was a free-for all inside. I ended up in queue for the checkout that went up one of the isles. This woman came over and butted in front of me within a meter to studiously inspect the Yankee Candles for 2 minutes. She then decided against the random purchase of an overpriced scented candle at 9.30PM. Meanwhile there was another couple just across from me blocking up the aisle making very heavy weather of the comparative benifits of CommandStrips over BluTac Foam Pads. Aside from that night, Tesco has been OK. This Tesco is old and grim at the best of times. The staff have the look of caged animals in a Vietnamese market, but that's both nothing new and forgivable given the circumstances.

Our Dunnes have a well organised queue, mostly snaking through a large marquee. Inside is pleasant and respectful. Staff are chatty and nice. Dunnes have good signage, good screens for the checkout staff, a one-way system in and out of the shop and just give you the feeling of being on top of things.

Local Costcutter is a pleasure too. Organised queue when it's busy, but mostly it's people getting in and out as fast as possible. Plenty of space, and they staff are their usual chirpy selves.

Sorry but that middle paragraph is crazy stuff. Did you read back over it? Absolute madness. Are people not entitled to think about what their buying? If someone is within a meter of you, you can stand back from them. That woman is completely entitled to look at the items in that aisle. I’d suggest to look after yourself rather than looking at what everyone else is doing.

mean gene · 19-05-2020 06:24PM

That Oxford vaccine is useless is it?

ACitizenErased · 19-05-2020 06:24PM

Arghus wrote: »

I think I work in a particularity lax spot. I've heard that some other stores take it far more seriously, but it's definitely not the case where I am.

I think people in Cork have taken it very seriously, hence the low case numbers here. Only ever seen full social distancing when shopping to be honest.

Saying that, it doesn't seem as if supermarket's are a major issue for spread. We've heard of no clusters related to supermarkets and shops since the beginning of this.

normanoffside · 19-05-2020 06:24PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I'm not sure how much wider testing criteria could be but maybe they could have tested anyone going back to work this week say before they mix with people outside their household in work and on public transport.

Not sure could they test anyone coming back into the country also at ports and airports say while travel is so reduced now.

They should definitely test people at airports and allow them to avoid quarantine if negative. It's what they are already doing in Vienna.

That would bring back a bit of tourism and allow the HSE to recoup funds invested in testing. Win Win.

niallo27 · 19-05-2020 06:24PM

Arghus wrote: »

I don't see your point. We shouldn't bother with it at all? Is that it? So no heed given to any preventative ]

The poster never said that, I'm not sure where your getting that from but if everyone is behaving like you suggest shouldnt the cases be increasing and not falling.

eagle eye · 19-05-2020 06:25PM

AdamD wrote:

Right and if this was a massive deal case numbers would be skyrocketing? But they aren't.

She said two to three weeks so those numbers would be here yet. I'm s only around now that people might bl start to get tested.

is_that_so · 19-05-2020 06:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think his point is still valid though. We should be aiming to use almost all the capacity, this should be a continuous drive.

That's really not how any country has done it and it would be far too expensive. Antibody tests will be coming but anything else is just not efficient use of resources.

Mic 1972 · 19-05-2020 06:26PM

mean gene wrote: »

People had it here in Dec and Jan is this nott the 2nd wave

Technically this is the first wave, even if we dont know when it started
Second wave will begin when the trend becomes positive again
Most countries are now hitting minimum daily new infections and are reopening so it will take probably 2-3 months before numbers start to pile up again

19-05-2020 06:26PM

Great that Covid is practically no longer in the community. Sad that it’s in the nursing homes though. That’s going to keep the deaths going up until those clusters are sorted.

saabsaab · 19-05-2020 06:26PM

Have the HSE done or started to do a statistically based test survey on the general population (say 500 or so cases randomly selected) to see the approx % number that have it still in the general population?
This would be useful in determining how far we are along in removing it from the country.

ZX7R · 19-05-2020 06:26PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.bloombergquint.com/coronavirus-outbreak/over-100-million-in-china-s-northeast-thrown-back-under-lockdown

Over 100 million Chinese residents in the north of the country placed under lockdown as new clusters emerge

One cluster of 34, another of 127
Certain areas of the city May face further restrictions with thousands in the two areas
Headline of over 100 million a bit misleading.
I've been following China with great interest as have many.
Two things to note when hearing news from there ,
One they are trying to eradicate the virus.
Second is there economy and this is the single most important thing to them.
The same news has been filtering from that area since the start of May

Eod100 · 19-05-2020 06:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think people in Cork have taken it very seriously, hence the low case numbers here. Only ever seen full social distancing when shopping to be honest.

Saying that, it doesn't seem as if supermarket's are a major issue for spread. We've heard of no clusters related to supermarkets and shops since the beginning of thise.

I think it would be far harder to trace a cluster from supermarket compared to other workplace which may not have as much interaction with public and say residential care settings. But yeah think main clusters now are the meat plants and care homes. Obviously still need to practice all the measures on the basis that someone there has it to be on the very safe side of things.

eagle eye · 19-05-2020 06:27PM

AdamD wrote:

Right and if this was a massive deal case numbers would be skyrocketing? But they aren't.

We wouldn't have any results from people getting infected two to three weeks ago yet.

Micky 32 · 19-05-2020 06:28PM

normanoffside wrote: »

They should definitely test people at airports and allow them to avoid quarantine if negative. It's what they are already doing in Vienna.

That would bring back a bit of tourism and allow the HSE to recoup funds invested in testing. Win Win.

When you get back you could phone your GP and say you’re not feeling well and get tested? Is it a 2/3 day turnaround? Better than 14 days.

Goldengirl · 19-05-2020 06:28PM

mean gene wrote: »

That Oxford vaccine is useless is it?

Not totally , still working on it.
Another called Mordana looking positive - ish .

DevilsHaircut · 19-05-2020 06:28PM

They may be considering adding loss of smell/taste to the symptom list, as the UK did yesterday (and the US a few weeks ago).

https://twitter.com/merrionstreet/status/1262794443532447744

sonofenoch · 19-05-2020 06:28PM

Expecting people to observe a 2m distance while picking up groceries is fussy in the extreme ......anywhere I've been if there's a queue I've seen it observed no problem, at checkouts same....... ...other than that you'd be in contact with someone for a millisecond if that and I'd use the term contact loosely ..................I'd swear there's a high proportion of ocd heads post on these forums

Stheno · 19-05-2020 06:29PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

They may be considering adding loss of smell/taste to the symptom list, as the UK did yesterday (and the US a few weeks ago).

https://twitter.com/merrionstreet/status/1262794443532447744

And definitely testing all close contacts of positive cases

is_that_so · 19-05-2020 06:29PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

They may be considering adding loss of smell/taste to the symptom list, as the UK did yesterday (and the US a few weeks ago).

https://twitter.com/merrionstreet/status/1262794443532447744

CMO said GPs here are looking out for it anyway.

lbj666 · 19-05-2020 06:29PM

marno21 wrote: »

0.21% growth.

Very encouraging. Important to note that these figures are delayed too due to the infection to onset of symptoms lag. Community infection must be very very low at this stage.

Rate of regression of new cases per day is accelerating by the day too, it will probably keep accelerating for the next week and then flatten out when the eased restrictions impacts things.

I think at this point like many are saying the testing needs to be expanded to people at risk of exposure in the work place.

Self referrals is daft because we'd all show up tomorrow if that was the case.

CinemaGuy45 · 19-05-2020 06:31PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

No evidence we'll ever had a vaccine either, what's your point?

With money to be made we are 100% to have a vaccine.

is_that_so · 19-05-2020 06:31PM

lbj666 wrote: »

Rate of regression of new cases per day is accelerating by the day too, it will probably keep accelerating for the next week and then flatten out when the eased restrictions impacts things.

I think at this point like many are saying the testing needs to be expanded to people at risk of exposure in the work place.

Self referrals is daft because we'd all show up tomorrow if that was the case.

Yeah, especially if you're getting a free test!

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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