Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

is_that_so wrote: »

I agree on the journalists but who exactly has been sidelined?

The fact that there's a vacuum in hearing from experts with differing opinions to NPHET is telling in itself.

I don't necessarily agree with Marcus de Brun's theories but he is an expert in the medical field. He resigned from NPHET in April over their decision on care homes. It was poorly thought out when he asked RTE to make a donation of €10,000 to ALONE in exchange for an interview.

He apologised, since then RTE has written or reported nothing about him, or his opinons. If you're main source of news is RTE, you won't have heard much detail about his resignation.

He was effectively a 'whistle-blower' over the decisions made by NPHET over care homes, yet doesn't warrant even one article in RTE (with or without comment by him).

cherryghost wrote: »

I wish there was something hard hitting journalists at the daily briefings instead of these soft minded ones that just steer the course in terms of questioning.

You'd really miss George Hook and Vincent Browne these days. They'd tear this non sense to shreds.

Paddygreen wrote: »

Heavily policed social distancing and masking up will need to be made compulsory to put peoples minds at ease until they get their vaccines. Claire Byrnes socially distanced pub is the way forward. Compulsory masks needs to become a thing, if people thought of them as condoms for their potentially infected faces it would soon become taboo not to wear one.

FEAR

Masks, social distancing etc will help people feel at ease when out and about but not a long term solution.

The mass hysteria and fear that’s been created will take a long time to subside

It’s a pity we weren’t trusted as a nation to carry out government requests in the beginning and they resorted to the fear factor to implement their plan.

Well in my opinion what they’ve created with the fearmorging is sad to see.

People treating others they know well like leper’s, people crossing the road to pass one another everyone’s on edge

The older people in society are petrified.

How this is fixed and the long term effects are worrying.

We need to wrap up daily briefings initially we don’t need to be listening to Dr Tony’s justification for another 12 week delay in getting back to a reasonable normal existence

Report only ACTIVE cases , stop the negative media reporting of this and impending economic doom

The longer the above goes on the harder it’s going to be to lift this fear.

Went to my partner's house yesterday. We've both been at home since the start of this except I've been going to the shop infrequently for groceries.

Anyway I was terrified to visit but we both agreed that since we've not been exposed it was okay so I spent a few hours in her house. It was lovely.

Harris speaking like he is an eminent medical doctor- "I don't believe in herd immunity..." here is someone that couldn't/didn't pass an Arts Degree arguing with a pre eminent Swedish doctors approach!

cherryghost wrote: »

I wish there was something hard hitting journalists at the daily briefings instead of these soft minded ones that just steer the course in terms of questioning.

I'm delighted to see this sudden realisation of the shortcomings of Irish journalism. Hopefully this dissatisfaction will continue post-COVID and that it's not just the government's current policies that are driving it...

road_high wrote: »

Harris speaking like he is an eminent medical doctor- "I don't believe in herd immunity..." here is someone that couldn't/didn't pass an Arts Degree arguing with a pre eminent Swedish doctors approach!

And all that after the nonsense about previous 18 coronaviruses. This guy is beyond pathetic. Can’t stand him.

LiquidZeb wrote: »

So you regularly strawman people as Gemma odoherty supporters and anti vax to dismiss people when there's absolutely no substance to what your accusations?

What accusation did I make? If you look back, the posts I come down strongly on are the ones along the lines of sure look we never got huge numbers of deaths and infections that we were told we could get, so the lock down was pointless and it was just fear mongering to control the populace.

It's a a staggeringly dumb point that anyone can make on this, and it deserves no credence or acceptance.

Hurrache wrote: »

Have you, and everyone who thanked the post, no cop on?

Is that you Simon? :pac:

Hurrache wrote: »

Have you, and everyone who thanked the post, no cop on?

You'll be all anti vaxxers next arguing against it because nobody is dying of the diseases the vaccines are for.

I thanked it but not for the bit you selectively quoted.

39,000 dead by this time in Ireland does not sound like a realistic figure to me given that countries 10 times our size whose outbreaks started earlier than us and who made their share of **** ups have yet to reach that figure.

Hurrache wrote: »

Have you, and everyone who thanked the post, no cop on?

You'll be all anti vaxxers next arguing against it because nobody is dying of the diseases the vaccines are for.

Desperation is funny, trying to pretend people who want the country reopened are somehow linked to anti vaxxers. Of course I support vaccines and have taken many over the years for travelling, etc.
Show me some facts as to why we should continue to be under these restrictions.
You haven’t contributed anything to the debate.

Paddygreen wrote: »

Heavily policed social distancing and masking up will need to be made compulsory to put peoples minds at ease until they get their vaccines. Claire Byrnes socially distanced pub is the way forward. Compulsory masks needs to become a thing, if people thought of them as condoms for their potentially infected faces it would soon become taboo not to wear one.

We are far more likely to get treatments that will move people from the need for hospitalisation to just self-isolating for mild symptoms.