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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #4832
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    That Claire Byrne show has gone off the cliff since this pandemic started. From the garden shed fiasco to the hairdressing demos. Is this show not supposed to be a serious current affairs programme?

    The typical content is more Philip Schofield daytime TV than serious current affairs.


  • #4833
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,374 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Jaysus just saw Simon Harris there on News. People need to show a bit of "cop on". Just because places are open doesn't mean people have to go there..... he says!
    I just think its an awful way to be speaking on the day deaths are just 4. Would you not give people a bit of praise and a bit of hope after all this time? We've been doing this for 10 weeks now - a bit of appreciation would go a long way.

    He talks sense. Since you post in this thread I presume you read it enough to see enough people not having cop on .


  • #4834
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Colibri wrote: »
    Baffling.


    Besides, we've already pretty much crushed the curve.

    The meme "okay boomer" very apt as a reply to that looper.


  • #4835
    SNNUS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    That Claire Byrne show has gone off the cliff since this pandemic started. From the garden shed fiasco to the hairdressing demos. Is this show not supposed to be a serious current affairs programme?

    The typical content is more Philip Schofield daytime TV than serious current affairs.

    RTE have been shocking, just turned it on there, someone with a formula 1 helmet on to cut your hair while a blue tooth thermometer up your arse as back up.


  • #4836
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,861 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    That Claire Byrne show has gone off the cliff since this pandemic started. From the garden shed fiasco to the hairdressing demos. Is this show not supposed to be a serious current affairs programme?

    The typical content is more Philip Schofield daytime TV than serious current affairs.

    That show is utter twaddle. Byrne is seriously dumb, completely unable to delve into topics and offer objective insights. Presenting Crimecall was the height of her ability- something that is fact based involving simple interviewing.


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  • #4837
    Birdie Num Num
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Just looked it up. 391 people have been in ICU with COVID19 in Ireland to date. I can't find the up-to-date number of people who died in ICU but when I saw it last week it was 65. Even if it was 85 today which I'm pretty sure it isn't thats a long way off 50%.

    Found it, died in ICU: 75, under 20%. Not that thats good but wrong numbers need to be called out.

    Fair play, you are doing a brilliant job. Keep up the great work.

    I just hope the medical staff working in ICU are doing as good a job as you are.


  • #4838
    Colibri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    Birdie Num Num wrote: »
    Fair play, you are doing a brilliant job. Keep up the great work.

    I just hope the medical staff working in ICU are doing as good a job as you are.

    Why so antagonistic? They literally cited a statistic.


  • #4839
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    SNNUS wrote: »
    RTE have been shocking, just turned it on there, someone with a formula 1 helmet on to cut your hair while a blue tooth thermometer up your arse as back up.

    Yeah after the hairdresser piece it was your employer might ask you wear a temperature monitor, get real


  • #4840
    SNNUS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yeah after the hairdresser piece it was your employer might ask you wear a temperature monitor, get real

    Can we flatten RTE while we are at it..


  • #4841
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    road_high wrote: »
    That show is utter twaddle. Byrne is seriously dumb, completely unable to delve into topics and offer objective insights. Presenting Crimecall was the height of her ability- something that is fact based involving simple interviewing.

    Yeah, it’s incredible how poor RTE have been through this in general. I always considered them the go-to source for excellent news coverage and current affairs but they’ve been appalling recently. From George miserable Lee fawning over every word the CMO says every evening to this twaddle on the Claire Byrne Show. Prime Time has been absolutely rubbish too, basically a mouthpiece for the government agenda. Not questioning anything.

    Virgin Media are completely kicking their arses, particularly Ivan Yates.

    The economy is going down the pan. We’ve no government 100+ days after the general election and we have Diarmuid Fcuking Gavin telling us how to plant our flowers. There are no words.


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  • #4842
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Colibri wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/IrishDataViz/status/1259200152851619843

    I know it's from a week ago, but it stands.

    Good info.

    and what does a graph of total death rate by age usually look like?

    heres one from the CSO for 2014
    https://statbank.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/statire/Graphics/MakeGraph.asp?menu=y&pxfile=202051823164116717390DHA11.px&gr_type=1&PLanguage=0

    in the UK, 15-44 year olds are up to 40% more likely to die in 2020 vs previous 5 years


  • #4843
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    SNNUS wrote: »
    Relax, just a joke. No restrictions on them. Yet...

    Oh yeah no I'm agreeing with you..the standard on rte and in particular Claire Byrne show has been awful


  • #4844
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It’s baffling how disproportionate the level of fear is in this country. I can only assume people are reading too many headlines and listening to Tony/Simon way too much.

    There is a graph posted just a page back showing that barely anyone under 65 has even died.

    On social media, some people are saying they won’t send their kids back to school in September as it’s too dangerous. Lots of curtain twitchers today criticising anyone that went out to a hardware store.

    One guy saying the queues for ICU will be out the door next week.

    I had RTÉ on myself the other day and I heard the words deadly virus every 5 mins. It’s only deadly if you’re over 75 and have an underlying health issue.

    I just don’t see this level of fear in any other countries.


  • #4845
    SNNUS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Oh yeah no I'm agreeing with you..the standard on rte and in particular Claire Byrne show has been awful[/QUOTgh

    Oh yeah sorry, it's awful garbage, it's a government spin channel really.. At least there is more balanced debate over on The Tonight show. I did not have the stomach to stick around for the pub bit...


  • #4846
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    road_high wrote: »
    It’s embarrassing how gutless people are here. They’re cowering in fear. Is it any wonder we are “neutral” - we never put our necks on the line or take a chance on anything.

    What are we putting our necks on the line for though? To go back to work and help make someone who couldn't care if we or someone we loved died? To have a pint and a haircut? I'll put my neck on the line for a decent cause...


  • #4847
    Breezin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Fear is more deadly than the virus, which is petering out across the world.


    https://youtu.be/uk2YZfnsOPg


  • #4848
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    That was a different person to the Israeli mathematician the poster quoted there. Last week everyone was discussing Michael Levitt a professor of structural biology in Stanford and a Nobel prize winner. Although they are broadly saying something similar

    That Israeli fellows thoughts were around last week as well.


  • #4849
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    What are we putting our necks on the line for though? To go back to work and help make someone who couldn't care if we or someone we loved died? To have a pint and a haircut? I'll put my neck on the line for a decent cause...

    Lots of people have a negative view of the economy.

    But the economy is what is responsible for our entire way of life. And we have a very good way of life.

    Life expectancy is 82 in this country. Anyone who really wants work will find it. Most people can afford to go on decent holidays/travel. We have nice luxuries like smartphones, broadband, cable tv, Netflix, Spotify etc.

    We want our kids to have opportunities here, in Ireland!

    This is what we’re fighting to protect. I sure as hell don’t want this country to become economically depressed. I don’t want to wave my kids off at the airport as they leave to find work.

    If that’s not worth fighting for, than I don’t know what is.


  • #4850
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    SNNUS wrote: »
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Oh yeah no I'm agreeing with you..the standard on rte and in particular Claire Byrne show has been awful

    Oh yeah sorry, it's awful garbage, it's a government spin channel really.. At least there is more balanced debate over on The Tonight show. I did not have the stomach to stick around for the pub bit...

    Yeah the pub bit was something else. And on that note the vice chair of the LVA

    https://twitter.com/NoelAnderson_/status/1262517387871518720?s=19


  • #4851
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,112 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    CSO says vast majority of firms have continued to trade through pandemic.

    00146261-614.jpg?ratio=1.77

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0518/1139071-business-impact-covid-survey/

    23.9% indicated they had ceased trading temporarily or permanently.

    Most positive figure is that nearly 70% reported no change in ability to access finance.

    I'm of the opinion the recovery from this period looks likely to be much quicker than a lot of people think.

    Assuming there is no need for reimposition of measures later on.


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  • #4852
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It’s only deadly if you’re over 75 and have an underlying health issue....

    ah here,,,


  • #4853
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    ah here,,,

    I meant 65.
    Apologies for the typo, it’s not only the government that make them.


  • #4854
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Lots of people have a negative view of the economy....

    I don't have a negative view of it though I would be very pro UBI and slainte care because I don't think people should be held to ransom by employers out of fear for financial or health security and it was something we saw with the meat factory whistle blowers that were afraid to lose their jobs. So maybe I'm a lil bit of a communist. But yes I'd like to see things get back to normal but your kids probably wouldn't want people to die for their financial benefit imo.


  • #4855
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,112 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    So maybe I'm a lil bit of a communist.

    Yeah this isn't you at all ;)

    tenor.gif

    Get him!


  • #4856
    Colibri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    and what does a graph of total death rate by age usually look like?

    heres one from the CSO for 2014
    https://statbank.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/statire/Graphics/MakeGraph.asp?menu=y&pxfile=202051823164116717390DHA11.px&gr_type=1&PLanguage=0

    in the UK, 15-44 year olds are up to 40% more likely to die in 2020 vs previous 5 years


    Take this up with @irishdataviz on Twitter, not me.


  • #4857
    MrDavid1976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    CSO says vast majority of firms have continued to trade through pandemic.

    00146261-614.jpg?ratio=1.77

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0518/1139071-business-impact-covid-survey/

    23.9% indicated they had ceased trading temporarily or permanently.

    Most positive figure is that nearly 70% reported no change in ability to access finance.

    I'm of the opinion the recovery from this period looks likely to be much quicker than a lot of people think.

    Assuming there is no need for reimposition of measures later on.

    And how Many of those 70% are continuing to trade because they were able to let people go or have the State subsidise wages. How many of the 30% will trade again. If it is 30% of the workforce, do you realise that is 600,000 + jobs. The hospitality industry is decimated. Tourism is decimated. Every business will be cutting back on expenditure and staffing if they wish to consider trading.


  • #4858
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,112 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I disagree completely.

    I think the economy will be flying along by the end of the year IF there is no requirement to reintroduce measures.


  • #4859
    Birdie Num Num
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    MrDavid1976 wrote: »
    And how Many of those 70% are continuing to trade because they were able to let people go or have the State subsidise wages. How many of the 30% will trade again. If it is 30% of the workforce, do you realise that is 600,000 + jobs. The hospitality industry is decimated. Tourism is decimated. Every business will be cutting back on expenditure and staffing if they wish to consider trading.

    It's amazing just who accuses who of feeding fear and scaremongering in this thread.


  • #4860
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Birdie Num Num wrote: »
    It's amazing just who accuses who of feeding fear and scaremongering in this thread.

    Well what do you think is going to happen to the economy? I don't see how that's scaremongering. Simple fact of the matter is locking down the country for weeks on ends came with consequences. People either didn't care or said one life trumped the whole economy. Now people will have to put their money where their mouths are.


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  • #4861
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,112 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Well what do you think is going to happen to the economy? I don't see how that's scaremongering. Simple fact of the matter is locking down the country for weeks on ends came with consequences. People either didn't care or said one life trumped the whole economy. Now people will have to put their money where their mouths are.

    You want it both ways.

    You want to criticise the correct global and Irish response and criticise those of us trying to get the risk to people through to them.

    And you want to criticise and doom monger over the economy then afterward.

    You'll end up wrong on both counts.:cool:


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