Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

ZX7R · 18-05-2020 06:13PM

Maggie Benson wrote: »

Outbreak in a school in France today. 70 cases.

According to French media the 70 cases are In 7 different schools in the North.
Unconfirmed reports state that none of the cases involved students , but we're staff tested in there return to work.
EU education ministers convened by video link today , ministers from countries that have opened up so far confirmed of no infections in students so far but stated some infections were found in adults .

blade1 · 18-05-2020 06:14PM

Rip to double figure deaths!

Jim_Hodge · 18-05-2020 06:14PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Tony & Co will have a hard time selling their plan with those figures

You just don't get it do you? I despair at times.

The success of the plan to date is a great encouragement to stick with it.

As Simon Harris said - have some cop on.

Harry Palmr · 18-05-2020 06:14PM

Monday numbers are skewed by the weekend, so I'd hold fire on making a judgement about free for all acceleration in any event. Tomorrow is the number that matters this week.

*Covid 19 is not going to burn itself out* Stop with the Trumpian BS

ACitizenErased · 18-05-2020 06:15PM

That was one of the shorter conferences.

Always_Running · 18-05-2020 06:15PM

Lowest number of deaths in over 7 weeks. The number of cases 88 today, 64 yesterday and 92 on Saturday is further proof that we are going in the right direction.

blade1 · 18-05-2020 06:16PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You just don't get it do you? I despair at times.

The success of the plan to date is a great encouragement to stick with it.

As Simon Harris said - have some cop on.

If they didn't get it 2 months ago they are not going to get it now.
Save your breath to cool your porridge :pac:

Eod100 · 18-05-2020 06:16PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Got to love the lag brigade posters just because it’s under a 100. If you go by the average and every other weekend numbers the drops are significant. Sorry, but cases are dropping.

I never said they weren't.

My post was in reply to the post that said ''Tony & Co will have a hard time selling their plan with those figures''

It's 3 days so it's early days. The restrictions have only eased from today so obviously there will be a lag in seeing how many cases are reported over the next few weeks. I thought that would be fairly clear from my post but apparently not

Level 42 · 18-05-2020 06:19PM

There was a report of 150 cases in some meat factory in north cork the other day not sure how accurate the report is just wondering where they are in the numbers

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Kepak-workers-deny-living-arrangements-to-blame-for-virus-cluster-in-meat-factory--344a041b-87de-4f66-83c9-6136aacb8ffa-ds

Itssoeasy · 18-05-2020 06:21PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I would be amazed if that's not happening behind the scenes.

I may have gotten it wrong but I took the three week gaps to a maximum time between phases and if the evidence showed otherwise that would be shorten. That was my understanding at the time anyway.

Benimar · 18-05-2020 06:24PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I may have gotten it wrong but I took the three week gaps to a maximum time between phases and if the evidence showed otherwise that would be shorten. That was my understanding at the time anyway.

I don’t think so. I think things can move forward a stage, but the dates for starting the individual stages will remain the same.

AllGunsBlazing · 18-05-2020 06:24PM

Level 42 wrote: »

There was a report of 150 cases in some meat factory in north cork the other day not sure how accurate the report is just wondering where they are in the numbers

Reported on the news or "reported" on twitter/facebook?

Level 42 · 18-05-2020 06:27PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Reported on the news or "reported" on twitter/facebook?

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Kepak-workers-deny-living-arrangements-to-blame-for-virus-cluster-in-meat-factory--344a041b-87de-4f66-83c9-6136aacb8ffa-ds

martingriff · 18-05-2020 06:30PM

Onesea wrote: »

So it's kinda time Ireland got moving again. At his rate you will have leo forever in office as a dictator, or maybe Tony people seem to bow to him with no hesitation

You will see parts of stages been brought forward with only those who can not do social distancing (pubs who can not do seating) been the very last nearly all places IMO will be opened before there initial stages as long as the number stay low and with more people going back they will increase by a bit but as long as ICU, hospitalization & death stay low then we be open up before the roadmap said but the weeks between those stages will remain

Also Leo in as no government yet I doubt it would have happen sooner

Hmmzis · 18-05-2020 06:31PM

Level 42 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Kepak-workers-deny-living-arrangements-to-blame-for-virus-cluster-in-meat-factory--344a041b-87de-4f66-83c9-6136aacb8ffa-ds

That's a retrospective report/article with interviews after the fact. I don't think those cases are from the weekend. Those might be part of early last week when the outbreaks were first discovered.

Boggles · 18-05-2020 06:33PM

A few hours into reopening the country.

Fúck it! let's accelerate it.

It will take 2-4 weeks to see what spread there is if any.

That's why the phases are 3 weeks apart.

If we have to shut down again that's when you will see a destroyed economy, it won't be netlfix, drinking cans and gardening, it will be actual proper hardship for large amounts of people.

Calm the fúck down basically!

martingriff · 18-05-2020 06:35PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Tony & Co will have a hard time selling their plan with those figures

People are just coming out of restrictions. I just hope will cases do go up a bit as people are out that there is some thinking by some here (do not think it will happen). However people need to keep there heads (all sides) and keep it up with washing of hands and social distancing rules

boardise · 18-05-2020 06:38PM

Strumms wrote: »

FG are not exactly left of center, they are the Irish Tory party, always have been...

I'm afraid your vapid generalisation doesn't really stand much scrutiny.

Apart from FG =strongly pro-EU and Tory Party = strongly anti-EU...

FG have supported much of the progressive legislation introduced in Ireland over the last 3 decades or so and enacted it in government - Divorce , Abortion , Gay Marriage.

martingriff · 18-05-2020 06:44PM

polesheep wrote: »

This, for sure. And did we ever need it to begin with? And if we did, would a couple of weeks have been enough? In this regard, I ask myself two questions. 1. Who did not or could not social distance? My answer: residents of nursing/care homes, healthcare staff, workers in the meat factories and travellers. 2. Which groups contributed the vast majority of cases? My answer: residents of nursing/care homes, healthcare staff, workers in meat factories and travellers. My strong feeling is that social distancing keeps this virus at bay and a continued lockdown is unnecessary.

Your logic is a bit flawed in a way. We were in lockdown so were social distancing are you saying if there was none or only a couple of weeks that the figures would not have been much higher?.

I think it needed to stay until now to get our testing and contact tracing to where it is now. If our testing and contract tracing was always like it was now then I would agree we could have opened up sooner.

Lets see what the figures will be like in 2 to 3 weeks and yes then lets increase it

is_that_so · 18-05-2020 06:46PM

martingriff wrote: »

People are just coming out of restrictions. I just hope will cases do go up a bit as people are out that there is some thinking by some here (do not think it will happen). However people need to keep there heads (all sides) and keep it up with washing of hands and social distancing rules

From the media reports on activity today it looks like we are doing our part.

martingriff · 18-05-2020 06:47PM

polesheep wrote: »

Restrictions created social distancing. Some groups couldn't or wouldn't engage with that. A lot of individuals also. But it is the groups that are relevant. It is also very clear where most of our cases came from.

Most of our cases came from the elderly and more then likely care homes

martingriff · 18-05-2020 06:51PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I may have gotten it wrong but I took the three week gaps to a maximum time between phases and if the evidence showed otherwise that would be shorten. That was my understanding at the time anyway.

No the time between stages will not be shortened due to the 14 day (or there about) incubation period but part of the plan will be brought forward to earlier stages

martingriff · 18-05-2020 06:53PM

is_that_so wrote: »

From the media reports on activity today it looks like we are doing our part.

good to see people were staying the distance and all that. Lets hope they continue

lbj666 · 18-05-2020 06:55PM

martingriff wrote: »

No the time between stages will not be shortened due to the 14 day (or there about) incubation period but part of the plan will be brought forward to earlier stages

If anything i could see us skip a phase in middle of the summer, there is opportunity now to leave just an ember in a few weeks, no point sending the firetrucks home and leave a lad with a garden hose trying to keep the fire undercontrol.

Sam Russell · 18-05-2020 07:02PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Yes, that's what people don't get.
There's no such thing as a 'cold', it's something people came up with and has no real basis in science.

A virus needs a host. Just being in cold temperature will not make you sick. You get the virus from other people.

Well, you can get a 'chill'. Of course, the fact that a 'cold' tends to only be prevalent in cold weather might be a clue as to why it is so called.

What weather condition gives rise to pedantry?

patnor1011 · 18-05-2020 07:05PM

martingriff wrote: »

Your logic is a bit flawed in a way. We were in lockdown so were social distancing are you saying if there was none or only a couple of weeks that the figures would not have been much higher?.

I think it needed to stay until now to get our testing and contact tracing to where it is now. If our testing and contract tracing was always like it was now then I would agree we could have opened up sooner.

Lets see what the figures will be like in 2 to 3 weeks and yes then lets increase it

Figures can be high or low. It all depends on how many tests are being carried out. Want to see more cases? Do more tests and you will find them.

patnor1011 · 18-05-2020 07:10PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Yes, that's what people don't get.
There's no such thing as a 'cold', it's something people came up with and has no real basis in science.

A virus needs a host. Just being in cold temperature will not make you sick. You get the virus from other people.

Not everything is black or white. There is a science behind cold weather and "cold".
A lot of people do have virus but their immune system is keeping it at a bay. Get to cold weather and it will make you sick as your sustem has to deal with other things and virus "escape" and do the damage.

lbj666 · 18-05-2020 07:11PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Figures can be high or low. It all depends on how many tests are being carried out. Want to see more cases? Do more tests and you will find them.

Yes but given the proportion of assymptomatic cases to symptomatic is a rather static ratio, if the symptomatic numbers are going down its a clear sign assymptomatic cases are going down too. We are testing well under capacity at the minute , the referals for tests are going down too.

tobefrank321 · 18-05-2020 07:12PM

Onesea wrote: »

Anabolic steroids can in some cases(the individual) cause issues with cholesterol.From heavy training alone parts of the heart become a little larger which in time can cause issues..

Compared to other over the counter drugs, testosterone taken in the right amounts cycled is not harmful and has been described as beneficial for some.

There is a long long list of anabolic, some taken by humans were destined for animals hence where we get the headline news stories.

Ironically many years ago I took a certain substance and it was manufactured in hubai China..

I would put my money on the stronger human beating this virus.. However after coming off a cycle a steroids it can be normal for people's imunes systems to be very very weak.

Don't do steroids....unless your being paid alot to win at a sport

Yep.

You cannot tell if someone has underlying conditions just by looking at them.

Those who overuse or misuse steroids (and he mightn't have) look great on the outside but risk suffering from a range of underlying conditions as outlined here

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/anabolic-steroid-misuse/

Heart problems are one, and clotting is another, both also with a link to covid 19.

As for longterm lung damage that usually comes from being unable to fight off the infection and it taking hold of the lungs.

Fact is we have no clue if this guy had underlying conditons or not and for someone claiming this can strike the young and fit as much or as often as the old or with certain underlying conditions is just not backed up by any stats in any country. This is predominately an illness that seriously threathens the old and/or with specific underlying conditions.

Sam Russell · 18-05-2020 07:14PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Figures can be high or low. It all depends on how many tests are being carried out. Want to see more cases? Do more tests and you will find them.

It would appear to be the exact opposite. We are doing more tests now than ever and finding less cases.

The idea is to get as much testing with rapid results as possible and find so few cases that contact tracing is very effective.

That is the route out of the current situation.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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