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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #5702
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Major vaccine news in the last hour. The first human trial has been a massive success.

    https://twitter.com/cnbc/status/1262359339781758976?s=21


  • #5703
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    The Moderna announcement :-

    "After two doses all participants evaluated to date across the 25 µg and 100 µg dose cohorts seroconverted with binding antibody levels at or above levels seen in convalescent sera.

    mRNA-1273 elicited neutralizing antibody titer levels in all eight initial participants across the 25 µg and 100 µg dose cohorts, reaching or exceeding neutralizing antibody titers generally seen in convalescent sera.

    mRNA-1273 was generally safe and well tolerated.

    mRNA-1273 provided full protection against viral replication in the lungs in a mouse challenge model.

    Anticipated dose for Phase 3 study between 25 µg and 100 µg; expected to start in July."

    Certainly sounds hopeful.


  • #5704
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    The Moderna announcement :-

    "After two doses all participants evaluated to date across the 25 µg and 100 µg dose cohorts seroconverted with binding antibody levels at or above levels seen in convalescent sera.

    mRNA-1273 elicited neutralizing antibody titer levels in all eight initial participants across the 25 µg and 100 µg dose cohorts, reaching or exceeding neutralizing antibody titers generally seen in convalescent sera.

    mRNA-1273 was generally safe and well tolerated.

    mRNA-1273 provided full protection against viral replication in the lungs in a mouse challenge model.

    Anticipated dose for Phase 3 study between 25 µg and 100 µg; expected to start in July."

    Certainly sounds hopeful.

    Phase 3 starting in July is very promising, if it does start in July you'd imagine results of that in August at some point which could see some sort of roll out in September perhaps if it works and if its approved for use, pending manufacturing also. Your still looking at late 2020 or early 2021 best case for anything widespread.

    But nonetheless very promising early results.


  • #5705
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Major vaccine news in the last hour. The first human trial has been a massive success.

    https://twitter.com/cnbc/status/1262359339781758976?s=21

    woo - hoo.

    Delighted.


  • #5706
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Papers contradicting each other:

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-ireland-live-updates-rush-hour-traffic-returns-as-country-begins-phase-one-of-lockdown-exit-39212744.html

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/no-major-surge-in-traffic-on-irish-roads-as-restrictions-ease-says-aa-roadwatch-1.4256172

    Or maybe it was quiet in the morning and busy now?


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  • #5707
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    Papers contradicting each other:

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-ireland-live-updates-rush-hour-traffic-returns-as-country-begins-phase-one-of-lockdown-exit-39212744.html

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/no-major-surge-in-traffic-on-irish-roads-as-restrictions-ease-says-aa-roadwatch-1.4256172

    Or maybe it was quiet in the morning and busy now?

    The independent headline was published at 7am so it was guesswork on their part


  • #5708
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    The independent headline was published at 7am so it was guesswork on their part

    The Indo also definitely wouldn't shy away from the auld clickbait headline (getting worse at IT too, in fairness). Although they do illustrate it with a photo of 3 lanes of traffic on the M1 - but the headline makes it out to be a national phenomenon, rather than a localised one on one of the busiest roads in the country that interfaces the M50 with the port tunnel.


  • #5709
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    The independent headline was published at 7am so it was guesswork on their part

    Guesswork is not their job.


  • #5710
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    I just recovered from some kind of cold/flu I caught at Tesco. (I know exactly where I go - only to buy food, don't interact with other people in person, wear gloves, treat each surface as contaminated)

    1. Wear a face mask going there. (wash it every day, don't let stuff build up on its surface)
    2. Wash all of the packaging in your kitchen sink.

    Lesson learned.

    I think I got infected through packaging. It could be also that this thing lingers in the air. (I never had any allergies so it's not that)

    It just shows that no matter how many precautions you take (and I went out of my way) not to catch a virus - you can still get infected.


  • #5711
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2YZfnsOPg


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  • #5712
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    The independent headline was published at 7am so it was guesswork on their part

    You're being too polite.


  • #5713
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    owlbethere wrote: »
    woo - hoo.

    Delighted.

    Going by your username I thought that you'd give 2 hoots instead :pac:


  • #5714
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Health briefing at 5.30pm this evening:

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1262381814628450311


  • #5715
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Irish times: There was no major surge in traffic on Irish roads this morning despite the return of some people to work under phase one of the Government’s lifting of restrictions. Photograph: Tom Honan for The Irish Times.

    Independent:
    Busy early morning traffic in North Dublin this morning. Photo: Mark Condren

    Both are showing a photo of the M50.


  • #5716
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I just recovered from some kind of cold/flu I caught at Tesco. (I know exactly where I go - only to buy food, don't interact with other people in person, wear gloves, treat each surface as contaminated)

    1. Wear a face mask going there. (wash it every day, don't let stuff build up on its surface)
    2. Wash all of the packaging in your kitchen sink.

    Lesson learned.

    I think I got infected through packaging. It could be also that this thing lingers in the air. (I never had any allergies so it's not that)

    It just shows that no matter how many precautions you take (and I went out of my way) not to catch a virus - you can still get infected.

    So you got a cold? Nothing strange in that. Many thousands pick up colds this time of year.


  • #5717
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I just recovered from some kind of cold/flu I caught at Tesco. (I know exactly where I go - only to buy food, don't interact with other people in person, wear gloves, treat each surface as contaminated)

    1. Wear a face mask going there. (wash it every day, don't let stuff build up on its surface)
    2. Wash all of the packaging in your kitchen sink.

    Lesson learned.

    I think I got infected through packaging. It could be also that this thing lingers in the air. (I never had any allergies so it's not that)

    It just shows that no matter how many precautions you take (and I went out of my way) not to catch a virus - you can still get infected.

    what sort of symptoms


  • #5718
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    hmmm wrote: »
    There's a lot of people behaving as if this is all over. Lockdown was the easy bit, living with this virus and trying to prevent it recurring is going to be even harder I think, as people realise there is a long-haul ahead until we get back to "normal".

    There's a significant risk that we see a second wave heading into later this year and coinciding with flu season, and this has not gone away. The government is going to have a hard job convincing the country it needs lots of extra capacity in our hospitals for that period in case this does happen, and that's going to be even harder with the "it's just a flu bro" crowd spreading their unscientific and dangerous "common sense".

    Agreed. I met a neighbour out walking over the weekend and she said she feels the worst of it is over. Thankfully we didn't get a steep curve and all that but we do need to be on guard going forward expecially from September onwards bmwkth children going back to school, that usually brings an increase in colds.

    I have the willpower to do what it takes, to hammer down on this virus.


  • #5719
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I just recovered from some kind of cold/flu I caught at Tesco. (I know exactly where I go - only to buy food, don't interact with other people in person, wear gloves, treat each surface as contaminated)
    .


    Just since you mentioned it, HSE advice is not to wear gloves, or at least be very careful when doing so.
    Disposable gloves

    Do not wear disposable gloves instead of washing your hands. The virus gets on them in the same way it gets on your hands. Also, your hands can get contaminated when you take them off.

    Disposable gloves are worn in medical settings. They are not as effective in daily life.

    Wearing disposable gloves can give you a false sense of security.

    You might:
    • sneeze or cough into the gloves - this creates a new surface for the virus to live on
    • contaminate yourself when taking off the gloves or touching surfaces
    • not wash your hands as often as you need to and touch your face with contaminated gloves

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-masks-disposable-gloves.html


  • #5720
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So you got a cold? Nothing strange in that. Many thousands pick up colds this time of year.
    There is no such thing as a 'cold'. You need to come in contact with a virus.


    Deleted User wrote: »
    what sort of symptoms
    Runny nose, plugged up ears, fatigue.


  • #5721
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I just recovered from some kind of cold/flu I caught at Tesco. (I know exactly where I go - only to buy food, don't interact with other people in person, wear gloves, treat each surface as contaminated)

    1. Wear a face mask going there. (wash it every day, don't let stuff build up on its surface)
    2. Wash all of the packaging in your kitchen sink.

    Lesson learned.

    I think I got infected through packaging. It could be also that this thing lingers in the air. (I never had any allergies so it's not that)

    It just shows that no matter how many precautions you take (and I went out of my way) not to catch a virus - you can still get infected.

    Geenie Mac - thats a nerve wrecking post. I don't want to live my life disinfecting grocery packaging and its worrying too.

    It just shows that no matter how many precautions you take (and I went out of my way) not to catch a virus - you can still get infected.

    Very true


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  • #5722
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    Runny nose, plugged up ears, fatigue.

    Were you tested?

    Scratch that. I get your point that you caught some infection despite your precautions. You're not saying it was Covid 19.


  • #5723
    batman_oh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    There is no such thing as a 'cold'. You need to come in contact with a virus.


    Runny nose, plugged up ears, fatigue.

    It's still called a common cold though - you make it sound like some sort of mysterious killer bug that's going to get you if you don't bleach your potatoes after you buy them.


  • #5724
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I just recovered from some kind of cold/flu I caught at Tesco. (I know exactly where I go - only to buy food, don't interact with other people in person, wear gloves, treat each surface as contaminated)

    1. Wear a face mask going there. (wash it every day, don't let stuff build up on its surface)
    2. Wash all of the packaging in your kitchen sink.

    Lesson learned.

    I think I got infected through packaging. It could be also that this thing lingers in the air. (I never had any allergies so it's not that)

    It just shows that no matter how many precautions you take (and I went out of my way) not to catch a virus - you can still get infected.

    You mentioned it in your post.. gloves. A big no no for virus spread as another poster mentioned. The chances you got anything from packaging are extremely slim


  • #5725
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    There is no such thing as a 'cold'. You need to come in contact with a virus.
    There used to be, way back before all of this started ...


  • #5726
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    Just since you mentioned it, HSE advice is not to wear gloves, or at least be very careful when doing so.

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-masks-disposable-gloves.html

    I would love to know the scientific basis for these HSE recommendations...

    Slovenia takes a different view: "From 29 March, wearing a face mask, even one made at home, or equivalents such as scarves that cover the mouth and nose is mandatory along with protective gloves; the decree stipulates that masks and gloves need to be worn in indoor public spaces."

    And they have been far more successful than us in containing the virus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_masks_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic#Mask_use_and_policies_by_country_and_territory


  • #5727
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    When I go to the shop, I do my best to limit touching any doors or handles in the shop. So I walk by the freezer door and isles and give the freezers a miss. Because that would be a potential place to pick up germs/the virus.


  • #5728
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    HSE advice is not to wear gloves
    They say that so you don't hoard supplies. It's a way of them covering their asses 'well, we didn't prepare so now we don't have enough PPE for hospital workers. Oopsie'. If it wouldn't work they wouldn't be wearing it.
    At this point Aliexpress is discounting PPE, which sounds like there's no longer a shortage:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33023797631.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4399665d0pooJD&algo_pvid=db119cef-1244-42a4-a12a-fc494cfaf037&algo_expid=db119cef-1244-42a4-a12a-fc494cfaf037-0&btsid=0ab6fb8815898112816764957e3308&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
    Same goes for masks.


  • #5729
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So you got a cold? Nothing strange in that. Many thousands pick up colds this time of year.
    There is no such thing as 'a cold'. To get infected you need to come in contact with a virus.


  • #5730
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    owlbethere wrote: »
    When I go to the shop, I do my best to limit touching any doors or handles in the shop. So I walk by the freezer door and isles and give the freezers a miss. Because that would be a potential place to pick up germs/the virus.
    Just don't touch your face!


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  • #5731
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I think there would be a market for an online grocery shop but ordering from a warehouse where the public doesn't go in and handle packagings etc.


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