Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

15-05-2020 03:53PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Do you think that our government has an issue with how successful Sweden have been with their approach (given 100,000 dead Swedes predictions) so they are picking on IKEA?

That is the only possible reason I see for keeping IKEA closed for another 3 weeks.

How's life in John of God's?

15-05-2020 03:53PM

I can really see things descending into chaos in this country. The 5KM rule has absolutely no public support. Lots and lots will be looking to break this rule from Monday onwards and its going to be impossible to police. Businesses have had enough and are now piling pressure on the government to allow them to reopen.

We can't carry on like this into mid June.

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 03:54PM

It seems like when you lift lockdown restrictions, people dont die

"GOOD NEWS FROM DENMARK

It's the first day since March 22 that no one died from COVID-19 in Denmark, according to data from the public health authority.

The Scandinavian country has registered 537 coronavirus-related deaths. Some 137 coronavirus patients are still in hospital."

Where is that 2nd wave? Danish experiment with their children seems to be working

CalamariFritti · 15-05-2020 03:55PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am sorry, what changes exactly on the 8th of June?? Less people queue to IKEA?

I don't know that and I'm not going to defend the plan or that particular change. Like I said I would be rather critical of it myself.

But phase 1 is a very cautious opening (if you can call it that at all) and even phase 2 is not giving much. (again which I personally think is very very conservative)

But the plan is out and they can't abandon it on day 1. I can see how opening IKEA would not seem consistent with phase 1.

The Jman · 15-05-2020 03:55PM

They're saying 2 weeks ago they included homewares in error and yet they're only rectifying that mistake now? How is that even close to being good enough?

Sheep Shagger · 15-05-2020 03:55PM

One word for all of this.....cluster****

boring accountant · 15-05-2020 03:56PM

Stark wrote: »

That's quite worrying. I can see it's an easy misprint to make but what's more worrying is that document is the only indication businesses have on whether they're okay to open or not on Monday and so much is open to interpretation. The government should have been proactively liaising with businesses ahead of Monday to let them know whether they were good to go ahead or not.

For the government to proactively liaise with business the government would actually need to be involved in the decision making process. We have a rubber stamp cabinet. We have separated the decision makers from the decision making process. It’s a slow motion calamity unfolding before our eyes. I have never been so pessimistic about Ireland’s future.

Ginger n Lemon · 15-05-2020 03:57PM

The Jman wrote: »

They're saying 2 weeks ago they included homewares in error and yet they're only rectifying that mistake now? How is that even close to being good enough?

Would you say we have most incompetent government on the planet?

Yes I would, Kent.

_Kaiser_ · 15-05-2020 04:02PM

MrDavid1976 wrote: »

At least when FF bankrupted us in 2008 we had fun along the way and built a few roads. Now we are going to be bankrupted over a period of weeks which will leave a legacy for years to come. Investors are looking at what we are doing and not doing, and thinking they will invest elsewhere where the climate is a bit more sensible (there are businesses and sites which will never open up).

The health risk is under control, the economy (and that is what puts meals on our tables) is spiralling out of control.

Said it before, will say it again...

The main difference between FF and FG is FG prove to be even WORSE in the long run. It's why they are only ever elected as a protest vote, and only until they make FF electable again (as they did this time out too!)

boring accountant · 15-05-2020 04:06PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Said it before, will say it again...

The main difference between FF and FG is FG prove to be even WORSE in the long run. It's why they are only ever elected as a protest vote, and only until they make FF electable again (as they did this time out too!)

To be fair to FG, they’re only getting hammered now because they decided to give their youth players a run out.

KrustyUCC · 15-05-2020 04:06PM

George Lee is like the minister for propaganda

Pretty much spewing out the government line

retro:electro · 15-05-2020 04:07PM

This is ridiculous. Home wear shops cannot open but shops like Dunnes and Tesco who have home wear sections have been opened weeks. Hardware shops and repair shops have been given the go ahead despite the fact a lot of them have already been open weeks. Ikea can’t open because people will flood the place so let’s move that to phase 2 when the 20k limit is introduced, where even more people can flood the place. As usual the Gov and NPHET are ten steps behind common sense.

This “easing” of restrictions is nothing more than an extended lockdown for 99% of us. And we have to wait another three weeks to see were we behaved enough to allow us move to stage 2, all while there’s tumbleweeds blowing in the hospitals. I have absolutely no faith in anyone in charge.

LiquidZeb · 15-05-2020 04:07PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How's life in John of God's?

Bit of a ****ty below the belt thing to say but I guess it's par for the course for you

15-05-2020 04:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I can really see things descending into chaos in this country. The 5KM rule has absolutely no public support. Lots and lots will be looking to break this rule from Monday onwards and its going to be impossible to police. Businesses have had enough and are now piling pressure on the government to allow them to reopen.

We can't carry on like this into mid June.

you mean 20th July - that's when we can go further than 20km!!

wakka12 · 15-05-2020 04:09PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/japan-suicides-fall-sharply-as-covid-19-lockdown-causes-shift-in-stress-factors

For all the lockdown scaremongerers predicting the impending widespread societal fallout among them huge increases in suicide

Japan sees a 20% reduction in suicide rates as people are less stressed due to time off school, more sleep, less commuting, and more time with family

One less aspect for you all to complain/pretend to worry about anyway

_Kaiser_ · 15-05-2020 04:10PM

boring accountant wrote: »

To be fair to FG, they’re only getting hammered now because they decided to give their youth players a run out.

Nah, wasn't any better under Enda and Noonan. Luckily for us the global upswing directly benefitted our FDI-dependent and export-led economy, but rather than "keep the recovery going" they somehow managed to make a lot of fundamental things worse.

We got the youth squad because Enda's ego led to a weak ineffective Government in 2016 so he could be the only FG Taoiseach to "win" a second term.

But you're right.. having a guy more concerned with his social media profile and bucket list at the helm has actually won him the accolade of being worse than his predecessor.

And through it all, FF slipped back into the driving seat with a guy like Martin at the helm! But despite it all, they're still not as bad as FG.

KrustyUCC · 15-05-2020 04:12PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Horse racing gets moved forward but homeware gets moved back.

These decisions are getting harder to understand.

Rural TDs pushed for this apparently

stargazer 68 · 15-05-2020 04:12PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Horse racing gets moved forward but homeware gets moved back.

These decisions are getting harder to understand.

Beginning to think they put them all in a hat and just drew them out willy nilly! :rolleyes:

Stark · 15-05-2020 04:12PM

Not that hard to understand when you consider the lobbying power the horse racing industry has. Cheltenham being the obvious case in point.

grumpygit · 15-05-2020 04:17PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Horse racing gets moved forward but homeware gets moved back.

These decisions are getting harder to understand.

Will the horses have to live within 5km of track

irishlad123456 · 15-05-2020 04:19PM

George Lee must be in bed with Holohan

CruelSummer · 15-05-2020 04:20PM

George Lee...’no good reason to change reopening plan’....how about Billions upon Billions of lost income, jobs, mental health issues, children’s education, cancer screening, etc. I could go on and on and on...

batman_oh · 15-05-2020 04:23PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/japan-suicides-fall-sharply-as-covid-19-lockdown-causes-shift-in-stress-factors

For all the lockdown scaremongerers predicting the impending widespread societal fallout among them huge increases in suicide
Japan sees a 20% reduction in suicide rates as people are less stressed due to time off school, more sleep, less commuting, and more time with family

One less aspect for you all to complain/pretend to worry about anyway

Japan's work culture is nothing like Ireland. People literally spend their whole lives working and sleep in offices etc.
Amazing irrelevant comparison though

lord quackinton · 15-05-2020 04:25PM

can anyone answer me this
when are the private consultants back?
danke schoen.

wakka12 · 15-05-2020 04:25PM

batman_oh wrote: »

Japan's work culture is nothing like Ireland. People literally spend their whole lives working and sleep in offices etc.
Amazing irrelevant comparison though

Not irrelevant at all. Posters here claimed the fear mongering associated with lockdowns would lead to huge increase in suicide rates. The opposite scenario is occurring in some parts of the world. So it looks like it was complete bull****

retro:electro · 15-05-2020 04:26PM

Jaysus her voice is horrendous

batman_oh · 15-05-2020 04:27PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Haha, yeh I'm sure lockdown is causing huge suicides heres because we are so different to the humans in Japan

I'm lost on how that's in any way related to your first comment. Awesome logic throughout.
I see you edited the nonsense - good job

niallo27 · 15-05-2020 04:29PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Not irrelevant at all. Posters here claimed the fear mongering associated with lockdowns would lead to huge increase in suicide rates. The opposite scenario is occurring in some parts of the world. So it looks like it was complete bull****

Long term though I would be worried with high unemployment, at the moment it's a novelty to be home for so long.

mr zulu · 15-05-2020 04:30PM

Baby steps and potty training for usðŸ˜„

Shelga · 15-05-2020 04:31PM

What's the point of this press conference? Just to confirm phase 1 can go ahead? Will have very little impact on the majority of people, as already noted here.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings