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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #4562
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    growleaves wrote: »
    Spanish Flu (1918-19) - 58 million
    HIV/AIDs (1920-2020) - 32 million
    Bubonic Plague (1908) - 12 million
    Asian Flu (1957-58) - 2 million
    Encephalitis lethargica (1915-1926) - 1.5 million
    Hong Kong Flu (1968-69) - 1 million
    Influenza (annual) - 200k-650k per year
    Swine flu - 525k

    Swine Flu with an estimated 525k deaths ? Yet there were only 18.5k deaths lab confirmed (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/08/who-declares-official-end-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic). Very interesting.


  • #4563
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Onesea wrote: »
    It isn't an astonishing amount when you factor in his figures were from 2016 - 1.2 million over a 2.5month period based of 2016 pop.

    425k x 2.5 =1.06 million.
    Put in your pop growth rate of. 07%

    That doesn't pain a picture of a doom pandemic.

    If we considered life this precious why is there so much war on earth.. 1 million Iraq dead, all quiet on the yemini war front etc.

    What the f are you on about

    I am against wars as well if that helps, probably most people on the thread are too


  • #4564
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭growleaves


    ek motor wrote: »
    Swine Flu with an estimated 525k deaths ? Yet there were on 18.5k deaths lab confirmed (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/08/who-declares-official-end-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic). Very interesting.

    It has to be understood that estimates in medical statistics are up, down and all over the place all of the time.

    I believe the lowest estimate for Spanish flu is 17 million dead. Whereas 50 million is the figure you usually see thrown around. The death rate for the Black Death is either as low as 20% or as high as 40%. The discrepancies are that large.


  • #4565
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    growleaves wrote: »
    Protests against lockdown happened in California, Michigan, Maine, Paris, Stuttgart, Munich and Berlin.

    And Dublin of course led by our national hero Gemma O'Doherty.
    Given who was responsible for our home grown 'protests' I would look into who was actually in attendance at those protests before trying to gauge whether there they are indicative of any wider societal trend among the sane population


  • #4566
    New Home
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    u2LQiwX.png

    That "Stay sane everyone" signature under a post documenting the most lethal pandemics in recent memory had put into a fit of the giggles.. Gold.

    Could someone explain to me why the data for HIV/AIDS starts in 1920? Have I missed a chapter somewhere along the way? Or have we got time machines, now?


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  • #4567
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    New Home wrote: »
    Could someone explain to me why the data for HIV/AIDS starts in 1920? Have I missed a chapter somewhere along the way? Or have we got time machines, now?
    The very first case is believed to date back to Kinshasa in 1920.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29442642


  • #4568
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Is there talk of Varadkar giving a speech after the Cabinet meeting on NPHET recommendations sometime today?


  • #4569
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Is there talk of Varadkar giving a speech after the Cabinet meeting on NPHET recommendations sometime today?
    Yeah, usually these things happen about 4.


  • #4570
    New Home
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    The very first case is believed to date back to Kinshasa in 1920.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-29442642

    Thank you.


  • #4571
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Investigation into the possibility of criminal sanctions into the Mater delaying reporting. At the very least someone needs to lose their job


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  • #4572
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Investigation into the possibility of criminal sanctions into the Mater delaying reporting. At the very least someone needs to lose their job

    I'm not up to speed on this, what happened ?


  • #4573
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,614 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Investigation into the possibility of criminal sanctions into the Mater delaying reporting. At the very least someone needs to lose their job

    Did they explain what happened? Or did they just slide it under the HSE's door and prayed no one would notice?


  • #4574
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Investigation into the possibility of criminal sanctions into the Mater delaying reporting. At the very least someone needs to lose their job

    Were the Mater named?


  • #4575
    blade1
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    Gael23 wrote: »
    Investigation into the possibility of criminal sanctions into the Mater delaying reporting. At the very least someone needs to lose their job
    Is that the Mater in Dublin?
    I got tested in the Mater in Cork and had the results 2 hours after.

    Not that that would have anything to do with delayed reporting though.


  • #4576
    SeaBreezes
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    growleaves wrote: »
    Lol I didn't say it was not remarkable

    If deaths level off soon and there is no deadly second wave killing millions, it is remarkable but less deadly than pandemics like 1957 and '68-69 though possibly worse than Swine Flu but not necessarily. Worse than Bejing flu (1997) definitely.

    The hype merchants said 'One of the worst pandemics in history'. We know what to get these people for Christmas: some history books.

    If... if...

    If wishes were horses beggars would ride :-)

    Numbers Are falling.. because we locked down (sigh)


  • #4577
    igCorcaigh
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    blade1 wrote: »
    Is that the Mater in Dublin?
    I got tested in the Mater in Cork and had the results 2 hours after.

    Not that that would have anything to do with delayed reporting though.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1261263906770694146?s=19


  • #4578
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    blade1 wrote: »
    Is that the Mater in Dublin?
    I got tested in the Mater in Cork and had the results 2 hours after.

    Not that that would have anything to do with delayed reporting though.

    RTE radio 1 just said Mater Dublin. I think someone seriously dropped the ball but can't see criminal sanctions happen tbh.


  • #4579
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Were the Mater named?
    Yeah RTE have named it

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1261263906770694146

    This is just bizarre. The Mater is the national receiving hospital for Covid cases. This is the primary centre of care for them. If this was an ongoing issue we'd have underreported by thousands of cases.

    I wonder is it something like these people were transferred to the Mater, and their numbers were assumed to have been counted at their original hospital, so were never notified.


  • #4580
    SeaBreezes
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    growleaves wrote: »
    Protests against lockdown happened in California, Michigan, Maine, Paris, Stuttgart, Munich and Berlin.

    Have you seen the protests? Cities of millions and 10-30 people protesting?
    Fox News etc like to get up close and personal so people can't see it's just a teeny tiny number of people.

    Ah sure god love us those people are challenged in many many ways..


  • #4581
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    seamus wrote: »
    Yeah RTE have named it

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1261263906770694146

    This is just bizarre. The Mater is the national receiving hospital for Covid cases. This is the primary centre of care for them. If this was an ongoing issue we'd have underreported by thousands of cases.

    I wonder is it something like these people were transferred to the Mater, and their numbers were assumed to have been counted at their original hospital, so were never notified.

    Could well be. Weren't cases moved out of Dublin to other hospitals, that's why there were some hospital clusters?


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  • #4582
    blade1
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    Did Tony Holahan not say south of the country?


  • #4583
    irishlad.
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    blade1 wrote: »
    Did Tony Holahan not say south of the country?

    Was just thinking the same myself, the south was definitely mentioned.


  • #4584
    NegativeCreep
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    RTE radio 1 just said Mater Dublin. I think someone seriously dropped the ball but can't see criminal sanctions happen tbh.

    We don’t know the circumstances so there’s really no point in talking about criminal sanctions yet. I’d like to know the facts before calling for heads to roll.


  • #4585
    What Username Guidelines
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    irishlad. wrote: »
    Was just thinking the same myself, the south was definitely mentioned.

    He said afterwards that a lot of the other cases from yesterday (non-backlog) were related to a meat factory in the south.


  • #4586
    growleaves
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    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    If... if...

    If wishes were horses beggars would ride :-)

    Numbers Are falling.. because we locked down (sigh)

    Lol numbers are falling

    Exponential increases are always followed by exponential decreases.

    You might as well take credit for an eclipse.


  • #4587
    dundalkfc10
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    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    He said afterwards that a lot of the other cases from yesterday (non-backlog) were related to a meat factory in the south.

    Meat factory's which are still open

    The govt have failed the people (Again)


  • #4588
    growleaves
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    Have you seen the protests? Cities of millions and 10-30 people protesting?

    I put up a video before, showing larger protests than that. I'll dig it out later and re-post it.

    The point I was making is that protesters from Maine and Stuttgart aren't 'hillbillies'. Not that an argument from snobbery should be given any validity anyway.


  • #4589
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    From the early days of the restriction measures we were told the main aim of the restrictions was to prevent a collapse of the health are system or to prevent too many people getting sick at once and to prevent an overload of the healthcare system.


    Tonysaid something different yesterday. He said, and I think it was in relation to the number of cases every day and the contact tracing - he aim is to prevent as many people as possible from picking up this infection. Did anyone else pick up on that?

    I wonder what he means exactly by that? Are they aiming for eradication of the disease?

    If their aim is to prevent as many people as possible from picking up the infection, surely rushing schools back wouldn't be the smartest thing until we see more evidence about children and there role in the spread of this. Over the past few days we have been told that it appears as if children don't spread it but there's still not enough evidence. Wouldn't it be better to wait it out for a while longer until there is more evidence.


  • #4590
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Mater provided statement to RTE radio disputing that it underreported any cases. Something is not adding up. And not just the cases.. :confused:


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  • #4591
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Meat factory's which are still open

    The govt have failed the people (Again)
    It seems to be how they are open, not that they are. Suggestions are there weren't too many guidelines followed.


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