Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

boring accountant · 14-05-2020 06:54PM

Allinall wrote: »

There was 1/5,000,000 at the end of February.
Look what happened then.

That was before anyone knew it was spreading. Now that the public is aware they can take precautions to reduce the spread. In fact there’s no reason to believe that the reduction in spread is caused by anything other than the voluntary actions of the public.

Allinall · 14-05-2020 06:55PM

I think all the posters here clamouring for restrictions to be lifted will be so disappointed when they actually are on Monday.

The cause will be gone.

Blaze420 · 14-05-2020 06:56PM

Allinall wrote: »

I think all the posters here clamouring for restrictions to be lifted will be so disappointed when they actually are on Monday.

The cause will be gone.

Are you one of those people who wish we’d stay locked down till 2022?

MrDavid1976 · 14-05-2020 06:57PM

Allinall wrote: »

I think all the posters here clamouring for restrictions to be lifted will be so disappointed when they actually are on Monday.

The cause will be gone.

There are 5 phases. The cause to save the economy and employment (from Tony & co) will not be over.

14-05-2020 06:57PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

They are fooling nobody - let Leo come out tomorrow and ask for another 2-3 weeks and see what happens. Enough is enough

Why do people believe “they” want restrictions to continue and have a vested interest in manipulating data to maintain it?

14-05-2020 06:58PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

Are you one of those people who wish we’d stay locked down till 2022?

So many of those people here. They are everywhere

Blaze420 · 14-05-2020 06:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do people believe “they” want restrictions to continue and have a vested interest in manipulating data to maintain it?

Because that’s all we’ve seen to date - we approach a government “announcement” which we all hope will signal some return to normality, only for Leo to go to Independence Day mode and tell us all how important it is we extend another 2-3 weeks. Do you not smell something off with this? We are low 100’s all week and the day before Leo’s big speech we spike to 400 - “sorry lads but we are not where we need to be yet so we need you to lockdown for another 2 weeks”

KrustyUCC · 14-05-2020 06:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do people believe “they” want restrictions to continue and have a vested interest in manipulating data to maintain it?

Pretty convenient to discover the mess up and add to the total cases the day before Cabinet meets to discuss phase one

All many will see if the headline 426 figure

14-05-2020 07:03PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

Because that’s all we’ve seen to date - we approach a government “announcement” which we all hope will signal some return to normality, only for Leo to go to Independence Day mode and tell us all how important it is we extend another 2-3 weeks. Do you not smell something off with this? We are low 100’s all week and the day before Leo’s big speech we spike to 400 - “sorry lads but we are not where we need to be yet so we need you to lockdown for another 2 weeks”

Daily cases do not form the decision. All the modelling would be by date of test. They even said it that the cases seem high but they are not now. I fully believed when lockdown until May 5th was announced it would be extended for two weeks so wasn’t surprised at all that it was. I would now be shocked if phase 1 was delayed however and expect an acceleration between phase 2 and 3

SusieBlue · 14-05-2020 07:04PM

I can see American style public protests if they try to delay for another 3 weeks.

It’s not something I would condone or support but I can see it happening. People are beyond fed up now and patience is wearing thin.

The tension has been simmering away all week and it will be at boiling point tomorrow if Leo chickens out.

Blaze420 · 14-05-2020 07:04PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Are you one of those people who want everything open tomorrow so you can go to the pub?

Generalisations with no basis in reality don't help.

No I couldn’t care less about the pubs or shops or anything else - I want to visit my family and at some stage, I’d actually like to get back to the office for a couple of days a week. Neither will happen at this rate, and boosting the figures to 4x what they were yesterday in advance of the announcement reeks of **** and nothing else. THEY have ****ed up again, THEY are still not at the level they promised for testing but the figures convieniently spike the day before it???

el Fenomeno · 14-05-2020 07:05PM

Sorry if it's been asked, it's moving at a fast space.

But with the likes of garden centres and that opening from Monday - is there a limit to how far you can travel to one?

14-05-2020 07:07PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

No I couldn’t care less about the pubs or shops or anything else - I want to visit my family and at some stage, I’d actually like to get back to the office for a couple of days a week. Neither will happen at this rate, and boosting the figures to 4x what they were yesterday in advance of the announcement reeks of **** and nothing else. THEY have ****ed up again, THEY are still not at the level they promised for testing but the figures convieniently spike the day before it???

I expect you to be proved wrong tomorrow. I do not however expect you to hold your hands up and admit you were wrong.

On visiting your family - do what I do and put your work clothes in the boot and go and “help an elderly relative with their garden”

retro:electro · 14-05-2020 07:08PM

Allinall wrote: »

I think all the posters here clamouring for restrictions to be lifted will be so disappointed when they actually are on Monday.

The cause will be gone.

There are no restrictions being lifted on Monday. As in, for the most part they were already lifted weeks ago. It’s just another way for the government, or should I say NPHET, to keep us in a chokehold for the next three weeks while trying to fool us into thinking measures are being lifted. Keeping us compliant with the illusion we are being “given” something while being given nothing at all. Laughable.

Blaze420 · 14-05-2020 07:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I expect you to be proved wrong tomorrow. I do not however expect you to hold your hands up and admit you were wrong.

If I’m wrong I’m wrong and I sincerely hope Leo has them balls to push on with the plan despite this - all I’m saying is I smell a rat here.

iamwhoiam · 14-05-2020 07:10PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I expect you to be proved wrong tomorrow. I do not however expect you to hold your hands up and admit you were wrong.

Do you not see the frustration and anxiety this is causing . Let people let off steam at this stage . People are fearful of a repeat performance of stretching the restrictions and if they get good news its a bonus

KrustyUCC · 14-05-2020 07:11PM

Allinall wrote: »

I think all the posters here clamouring for restrictions to be lifted will be so disappointed when they actually are on Monday.

The cause will be gone.

We still have amongst the slowest plans in Europe

That's not going to change with a miniscule lifting of restrictions on Monday

Colibri · 14-05-2020 07:13PM

I can't help but think this is just a political game for them now.

On a related note - are they reporting non-covid deaths as covid certified? As in, if someone is in the hospital and has lets say, meningitis but picks up covid and dies is it reported as a covid death? Or is that just a facebook conspiracy theory.

14-05-2020 07:19PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Do you not see the frustration and anxiety this is causing . Let people let off steam at this stage . People are fearful of a repeat performance of stretching the restrictions and if they get good news its a bonus

It’s always better to undercommit and over deliver. It would be worse to lay out a more aggressive plan and then have to row back because it was too aggressive

14-05-2020 07:24PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Debating whether or not we can enter phase one. Did you ever hear such ****e
People have had it up to here with NPHET and their ways. And yes I’ve had a few vinos this evening lol sick of the lot of them

I agree. They have done a decent job up to now, a few hiccups, (allowing some nursing homes to be decimated, etc), but overall they kept the wider population safe which was their aim. Now they need to stop clutching their pearls and speed the process up. Unfortunately, I don't think any politician has the mandate to make that call against NPHET advice. So, not going to happen. Enjoy your wine.

JoeExotic81 · 14-05-2020 07:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is so frustrating. The headlines now are 426 new cases. When it’s actually 140

It's absolutely farcical. Hardly anyone will read the small print.

If anyone pays any heed to ****ing Tony's bingo numbers after this needs their head checked.

But yeah here we are waiting for our bloody genius "government" to let the country out of this increasingly ridiculous vice grip.

14-05-2020 07:31PM

JoeExotic81 wrote: »

It's absolutely farcical. Hardly anyone will read the small print.

If anyone pays any heed to ****ing Tony's bingo numbers after this needs their head checked.

But yeah here we are waiting for our bloody genius "government" to let the country out of this increasingly ridiculous vice grip.

Anyone who looks at the numbers with any sort of critical thinking ignores the daily anyway

Ginger n Lemon · 14-05-2020 07:32PM

Where are those geniuses reporting German R number?

Where is death and destruction in Germany? Where is the 2nd wave?

God how can we justify keeping our country locked till 10th of June, let alone 10th of August....

:mad:

martingriff · 14-05-2020 07:33PM

I have a feeling while phase 1 will be largely unchanged as a test phase things will get moved to other phases and we will have less then 5 phases by the end. The only thing to stay long term is social distancing, no large groups and work from home if possible

Ginger n Lemon · 14-05-2020 07:34PM

Wow.

"A 113-year-old woman believed to be the oldest person living in Spain has survived after contracting Covid-19. "

Fintan, what is this? Tony H must be fuming, disease is clearly getting weaker by the day

kwestfan08 · 14-05-2020 07:37PM

I get social distancing is here for a right while yet but is there scope, for say, 10/15 people going away together to a house down the country. Seen nothing in the plan for small groups like that congregating.

14-05-2020 07:40PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Wow.

"A 113-year-old woman believed to be the oldest person living in Spain has survived after contracting Covid-19. "

Fintan, what is this? Tony H must be fuming, disease is clearly getting weaker by the day

Absolutely livid. Sure everyone knows he wants nothing more than the lockdown to last forever and everyone to die

martingriff · 14-05-2020 07:42PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Where are those geniuses reporting German R number?

Where is death and destruction in Germany? Where is the 2nd wave?

God how can we justify keeping our country locked till 10th of June, let alone 10th of August....

:mad:

Well given that most countries who are leaving lockdown have only done in the last week number would not been known for at least a week if not 2. Only last week when they lifted them some were wondering if they lifted some 2 early.

Germans are also a whole lot more likely to follow stuff then we are. Once phase 1 is done and the numbers remain at a stable level you will see phases been pushed together or moved.

If things go well I see us out of lockdown bar social distancing rules, working from home and clubs and concerts closed a lot sooner

iamwhoiam · 14-05-2020 07:43PM

I feel really frustrated and anxious now after that fiasco of the new cases today
I want to scream at Tony that be it intentional or not he is playing with peoples heads .
All he had to say was we have 140 news cases today and we have 300 cases we have been informed off which are not new cases for today .
People are on the edge and many anxious and needing their family and we get this shoite with a huge increase in numbers causing stress and upset

martingriff · 14-05-2020 07:44PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Wow.

"A 113-year-old woman believed to be the oldest person living in Spain has survived after contracting Covid-19. "

Fintan, what is this? Tony H must be fuming, disease is clearly getting weaker by the day

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely livid. Sure everyone knows he wants nothing more than the lockdown to last forever and everyone to die

I think Tony H has been a lot more positive this week then the last time. Look we all want to get out an about and 1 person is not a pattern make.

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