Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Runaways · 13-05-2020 03:44PM

The Canary Wharf bombing brought the Brits to the table. forced them to the table you could look at that as a victory for the IRA

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 03:54PM

Runaways wrote: »

The Canary Wharf bombing brought the Brits to the table. forced them to the table you could look at that as a victory for the IRA

In the Westminister election following Canary Wharf, SF had grown their % support by over 6% and had 2 MPs to the SDLPs 3, having had none up to that.

Yeh...'no support' alright!

markodaly · 13-05-2020 04:00PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Why am I "not a nice person" because I mentioned Enda and Joan having no reservations whatsoever with placing a dissident republican into the Seanad?

I think the whole 'bantz' about Maria Cahill receiving death threats from Paramilities and putting her and her young children's lives in danger and making light of it is the reason you got that comment.

Its all fun and games on boards, but one and especially SF supporters should think twice about making light on violence against women.

markodaly · 13-05-2020 04:03PM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

So should I look past the statement on
Maria Cahill getting raped by IRA/SF
Paul Quinn getting murdered by IRA/SF
Gerry Adams brother raping his daughter and getting protected by IRA/SF

Sounds like SF are the new Catholic Church.
Less frocks but more guns and folk ballads. Still the same abuse of power though.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 04:04PM

markodaly wrote: »

I think the whole 'bantz' about Maria Cahill receiving death threats from Paramilities and putting her and her young children's lives in danger and making light of it is the reason you got that comment.

Its all fun and games on boards, but one and especially SF supporters should think twice about making light on violence against women.

Oh dear...now people are making light of 'violence against women'? Ridiculous faux outrage again.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 04:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Tbf shes well able to give abuse that wan,wasnt she caught abusing lyra mckee (since you like to.haul.up her name?) on social.media?

This is the way it works.
Because she made a allegation against SF nothing she does or says subsequently can be questioned.

The modus operandi of the anti Shinner.

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 04:09PM

markodaly wrote: »

I think the whole 'bantz' about Maria Cahill receiving death threats from Paramilities and putting her and her young children's lives in danger and making light of it is the reason you got that comment.

Its all fun and games on boards, but one and especially SF supporters should think twice about making light on violence against women.

Just a hunch I have mark, but I imagine her life was in much more severe danger when she enlisted with the dissidents.

Let's try and pivot onto something else about her though, rather than address the fact that FG and labour govt fully endorsed a dissident republican in the Seanad.

I'm on to you chief.

markodaly · 13-05-2020 04:11PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Oh dear...now people are making light of 'violence against women'? Ridiculous faux outrage again.

They are. You are quick to go around and tell everyone that the rape that occured as 'alleged' even though when the crime happened there was a Kangeroo Court with Gerry Adams himself, so the incident was never going to see the light of day in an actual courtroom.

It's all great 'locker room bantz' but dare I suggest people should see it from the woman's side too, sometimes.

markodaly · 13-05-2020 04:12PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Just a hunch I have mark, but I imagine her life was in much more severe danger when she enlisted with the dissidents.

Let's try and pivot onto something else about her though, rather than address the fact that FG and labour govt fully endorsed a dissident republican in the Seanad.

I'm on to you chief.

Master of deflection again.

Someone says something negative about SF.... responds back about FG...

Rinse and repeat x1000

markodaly · 13-05-2020 04:14PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It ended when Britain signed the GFA.

When the IRA got the assurances they needed they decommissioned.

That is not a surrender or defeat or a win, it is a negotiated settlement when stalemate was arrived at imo. The British had to agree...then the arms were put beyond use.

I know you need the victory for your version of history, but those are the facts.

Who still has guns in the North?

The British Army... that tells you all you need to know about THAT stalemate.

maccored · 13-05-2020 04:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Tbf he basically called yous homophobic yesterday for critiseing varadkar

Pure junk level debate,in effort to get thread shutdown imo

its always their level of debate. if in doubt, say the usual names and forget anything inconvenient. I wouldnt mind but i'd say most of them rarely have set foot in the north, particular pre GFA.

The usual banter is 'republicans' on boards are always defending SF. In reality its usually pointing out the misconceptions, untruths and at times downright lies that get spouted that causes the reaction

maccored · 13-05-2020 04:17PM

markodaly wrote: »

Who still has guns in the North?

The British Army... that tells you all you need to know about THAT stalemate.

grow up. 'nan na naa naa naa our side won' - cop on with that carryon

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 04:18PM

markodaly wrote: »

They are. You are quick to go around and tell everyone that the rape that occured as 'alleged' even though when the crime happened there was a Kangeroo Court with Gerry Adams himself, so the incident was never going to see the light of day in an actual courtroom.

It's all great 'locker room bantz' but dare I suggest people should see it from the woman's side too, sometimes.

The man alleged to be her abuser and the others implicated ALL turned up to court to defend themselves. The court case never happened.

It remains an allegation.

I personally have my own opinion of what happened based on what Mairia Cahill says about the abuse but that does not and never should mean that the man is guilty.
This is a democracy and you have the right to defend yourself and to be presumed innocent until a court/jury decides otherwise.
I apply the same rights to everybody else, including the British Army for instance.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 04:19PM

markodaly wrote: »

Who still has guns in the North?

The British Army... that tells you all you need to know about THAT stalemate.

But when it suits the argument...'the 'RA still have them'.

Dear me. Spinning yourself into a hoop Mark because the actual data and facts prove you are wrong.

maccored · 13-05-2020 04:24PM

these fellas love SF. theres a new thread on the go and all!

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 04:24PM

markodaly wrote: »

Master of deflection again.

Someone says something negative about SF.... responds back about FG...

Rinse and repeat x1000

Keep up mark, this particular conversation began with how Enda and Joan had no bother plonking a dissident into the Seanad.

By "deflect" you mean bring it back to the original point being made - yeah?

Yeah_Right · 13-05-2020 05:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Personally I am glad the IRA evolved and had the ability to change tack...

Evolved is an interesting choice of words. Not one I would usually associate with the IRA or any dissident group. But I suppose it is accurate. They did move from being murderers, rapists and terrorists to being murderers, rapists and drug dealers. I supposes you could call that evolution.

Still protected by the same politicians though.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 05:24PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Just a hunch I have mark, but I imagine her life was in much more severe danger when she enlisted with the dissidents.

Let's try and pivot onto something else about her though, rather than address the fact that FG and labour govt fully endorsed a dissident republican in the Seanad.

I'm on to you chief.

If you want to discuss FG and Labour then bring it to those threads, just an idea. This is Sinn Fein thread

Beasty · 13-05-2020 05:25PM

If you are not going to interact civilly, or want to deflect the discussion onto another topic, threadbans and other sanctions will be applied

James Brown · 13-05-2020 05:45PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Dissidents have more in common with FG/Labour?

Ha, ha, ha, that is so funny.

They are just the slowest of slow learners who haven't learned since 1970 that violence will never solve anything.

I'll explain:

Dissidents are opposed to the GFA moves and a cessation of violence under said terms the IRA signed up to. This makes them different.
FG/Lab made a dissident a Senator. So politically speaking FG/Lab are willing to reward a dissident with a senate seat despite their stance on the peace process where the IRA are politically opposed to them and signed up for peace.
Do you understand? The person who shot Lyra McKee was associated with dissidents. So to match dissidents or her killing to the IRA or SF for that matter is complete idiocy.
You really need to educate yourself on the north and it's politics before you start using it to cover for Fine Gael, so poorly.

James Brown · 13-05-2020 05:52PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

That reads more like a pouring of a slight on Maria Cahill than anything else
I'm not surprised, its a typical Republican handling of her story
Sad

The only part her story plays is in explaining how the IRA and dissidents are different and how FG/Lab support dissidents and dissidents are responsible for Lyra McKee's killing. Another lad thinks they are 'the same people'. Which would mean that FG/Lab put a 'RA head in the senate.
Maybe you should be respectful to the woman having more to her story than being an abuse victim.

Runaways · 13-05-2020 06:01PM

The British Army behaved Worse than terrorists and with impunity let’s not forget and gave birth to the Ira
https://twitter.com/gildernewcolm/status/1260518088480632832?s=21

James Brown · 13-05-2020 06:04PM

Runaways wrote: »

The British Army behaved Worse than terrorists and with impunity let’s not forget and gave birth to the Ira
https://twitter.com/gildernewcolm/status/1260518088480632832?s=21

They'd rather discuss the IRA because it's easier than defending FG policy.

Odhinn · 13-05-2020 06:05PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Dissidents have more in common with FG/Labour?

Ha, ha, ha, that is so funny.

They are just the slowest of slow learners who haven't learned since 1970 that violence will never solve anything.

Other than giving us independence, forcing the sectarian northern statelet to reform....

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 07:09PM

Bowie wrote: »

They'd rather discuss the IRA because it's easier than defending FG policy.

If you want to talk about FG, maybe discuss it on the FG thread.

jm08 · 13-05-2020 07:49PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Evolved is an interesting choice of words. Not one I would usually associate with the IRA or any dissident group. But I suppose it is accurate. They did move from being murderers, rapists and terrorists to being murderers, rapists and drug dealers. I supposes you could call that evolution.

Still protected by the same politicians though.

Since the GFA, the Provos have kept their nose clean and as far as I understand, even the dissident republicans are not drug dealers. In fact, the opposite if you get my meaning! Its the loyalists who are the drug dealers. Dissident republicans are into diesel laundering and cigarette smuggling.

Runaways · 13-05-2020 07:54PM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

If you want to talk about FG, maybe discuss it on the FG thread.

You’re a mod now ?)

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 08:38PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Other than giving us independence, forcing the sectarian northern statelet to reform....

Did they?

At the time of the Good Friday the IRA was in a cease fire for 4 years. So politicians like John Hume, Bertie Ahearn, Clinton etc delivered the Good Friday Agreement and peace.

At that stage the IRA where exactly what they are now, just a criminal gang. More concerned with washing diesel than giving anyone independence.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 08:40PM

Runaways wrote: »

You’re a mod now ?)

No, did I say I was? just find it strange that some posters seem to find it necessary to discuss other political parties. Would it not make sense to discuss those parties on the thread about them?

Sinn Fein get accused of always pointing the finger, is that a correct assumption?

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 08:46PM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

No, did I say I was? just find it strange that some posters seem to find it necessary to discuss other political parties. Would it not make sense to discuss those parties on the thread about them?

Sinn Fein get accused of always pointing the finger, is that a correct assumption?

Politics is the interaction of political ideologies. Of course other parties need to be and will be mentioned.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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