Is it just me or have SF vanished?

blanch152 · 13-05-2020 08:53AM

Bowie wrote: »

Thing is it's really not. As dissidents they've more in common with FG/Lab.
Not sure what it's got to do with SF policy or their presence in the public eye currently.

Dissidents have more in common with FG/Labour?

Ha, ha, ha, that is so funny.

They are just the slowest of slow learners who haven't learned since 1970 that violence will never solve anything.

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 09:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty sure maria cahill was elected as senator for labour?

At same time,when labour was in government with FG?

An uncomfortable truth.

How Enda Kenny and Joan felt fit to grandstand in the Dail about the provos campaign while they endorsed a dissident republican getting para dropped into the Seanad was laughable tbh.

Mairia, like Paul Quinn's family have been duly discarded since their usefulness became worn out.

blanch152 · 13-05-2020 09:36AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty sure maria cahill was elected as senator for labour?

At same time,when labour was in government with FG?

A young girl, abused by Sinn Fein and the IRA turned to dissidents for a couple of months, and now is horrified by what they are doing.

That is all you have, and it is disgusting that you use her in such a way.

All of the leading dissidents are former IRA and former Sinn Fein members. Good republicans as Gerry Adams might call them.

Mortelaro · 13-05-2020 09:37AM

McMurphy wrote: »

An uncomfortable truth.

How Enda Kenny and Joan felt fit to grandstand in the Dail about the provos campaign while they endorsed a dissident republican getting para dropped into the Seanad was laughable tbh.

Mairia, like Paul Quinn's family have been duly discarded since their usefulness became worn out.

That reads more like a pouring of a slight on Maria Cahill than anything else
I'm not surprised, its a typical Republican handling of her story
Sad

blanch152 · 13-05-2020 09:41AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Who would you have preferred them to put forward blanch? Is there someone in Sinn Fein you'd have been content with having being nominated?

This'll be good.

Quite a large number of Sinn Fein TDs are unfit for public office. Whether it is John Brady, taking a council house that could go to someone who needs it, Cullinane with his sickening post-election celebration, Dessie Ellis and his convictions, and a whole heap of others including the new breed of Violet-Anne Wynne and Reada Cronin.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 10:15AM

McMurphy wrote: »

An uncomfortable truth.

How Enda Kenny and Joan felt fit to grandstand in the Dail about the provos campaign while they endorsed a dissident republican getting para dropped into the Seanad was laughable tbh.

Mairia, like Paul Quinn's family have been duly discarded since their usefulness became worn out.

You're not really a nice person are you?

https://www.thejournal.ie/maria-cahill-ssdp-local-elections-safety-4578710-Apr2019/

Maria Cahill had to drop out of the elections because of fears for her life and her children life as she would be required to release her home address. This is because the IRA are still after her, yet we hear Sinn Fein telling us that the IRA no longer exist. Lovely party you support.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 10:21AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Who would you have preferred them to put forward blanch? Is there someone in Sinn Fein you'd have been content with having being nominated?

This'll be good.

The fact Sinn Fein have so few politician that are actually fit to hold any office in the Dail should be an embarrassment for the party and not something to think is an achievement. Would you not think?

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 10:44AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Quite a large number of Sinn Fein TDs are unfit for public office. Whether it is John Brady, taking a council house that could go to someone who needs it, Cullinane with his sickening post-election celebration, Dessie Ellis and his convictions, and a whole heap of others including the new breed of Violet-Anne Wynne and Reada Cronin.

I asked who you would have been happy with, this doesn't answer the question tbh.

Redgirl82 wrote: »

You're not really a nice person are you?

https://www.thejournal.ie/maria-cahill-ssdp-local-elections-safety-4578710-Apr2019/

Maria Cahill had to drop out of the elections because of fears for her life and her children life as she would be required to release her home address. This is because the IRA are still after her, yet we hear Sinn Fein telling us that the IRA no longer exist. Lovely party you support.

Why am I "not a nice person" because I mentioned Enda and Joan having no reservations whatsoever with placing a dissident republican into the Seanad?

Is any of that untrue?

Annasopra · 13-05-2020 10:52AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Quite a large number of Sinn Fein TDs are unfit for public office. Whether it is John Brady, taking a council house that could go to someone who needs it, Cullinane with his sickening post-election celebration, Dessie Ellis and his convictions, and a whole heap of others including the new breed of Violet-Anne Wynne and Reada Cronin.

Eh. I am not a big fan of SF but John Brady didnt "take" a council house. He lived in it for many years. He moved out with his family a few years years ago so why is that still being trotted out.

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 10:55AM

In other news, I see the bearded one had his convictions quashed today.

I'm sure supporters of the law and order party will be very vocal on this fine example of justice being seen to have been done.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 11:00AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

You're not really a nice person are you?

https://www.thejournal.ie/maria-cahill-ssdp-local-elections-safety-4578710-Apr2019/

Maria Cahill had to drop out of the elections because of fears for her life and her children life as she would be required to release her home address. This is because the IRA are still after her, yet we hear Sinn Fein telling us that the IRA no longer exist. Lovely party you support.

Do you seriously believe that?
Do you think if 'the IRA were after her' that they would have the slightest difficulty finding out where she lives?

It's not that long ago somebody was posting pictures of Mary Lou's house here, how do you think they found out where she lives. Adams home was widely known and it was actually attacked.

Try and look beyond the statement. Why would running in elections make her anymore of a target than making her claims would have, if the IRA were indeed targeting her?
It doesn't stack up in common sense terms.

Jinglejangle69 · 13-05-2020 11:01AM

McMurphy wrote: »

In other news, I see the bearded one had his convictions quashed today.

I'm sure supporters of the law and order party will be very vocal on this fine example of justice being seen to have been done.

Glad justice prevailed.

Now for all the PIRA murder victims and vanished bodies would be grest too.

Mango Joe · 13-05-2020 11:02AM

SF support during the election was nothing but an angry protest vote.

Nobody actually wanted them then, nobody wants them now.

If anything it's a useful indicator of the true levels of respect people have for them, their values, their shallow, fickle policies and their cynical empty promises.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 11:09AM

McMurphy wrote: »

I asked who you would have been happy with, this doesn't answer the question tbh.

Why am I "not a nice person" because I mentioned Enda and Joan having no reservations whatsoever with placing a dissident republican into the Seanad?

Is any of that untrue?

What's not true is your comment about Maria getting discarded. She wasn't. It was only when she had to release her address she dropped out of local elections. This was because of IRA, which is still protected to this day by Sinn Fein.

Also your comments about Paul Quinn. Disgusting

But continue on with your lies. Maybe some fool will believe them, sure you did when you decided to support Sinn Fein.

Maybe you think it is ok to throw out disgusting comments, that's the problem on internet. But I certainly don't. If I met you face to face you wouldn't say a word. Little coward behind a keyboard. That's a true reflection of what Sinn Fein are about, a group of cowards sitting behind a group of murdering criminal.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 11:15AM

McMurphy wrote: »

In other news, I see the bearded one had his convictions quashed today.

I'm sure supporters of the law and order party will be very vocal on this fine example of justice being seen to have been done.

Wonder does this pertain to all internees?

It was one of the pivotal events that made the place go up in flames. I hope all the families destroyed by this get the justice they now deserve and that the shame on British 'justice' that it was forces them to finally take part in a 'truth' recovery' process where all can get the closure they deserve.

The British are being dragged kicking and screaming to admit their crimes, we know they did now. Go one step further now, is what the Irish government should be saying to them.

blanch152 · 13-05-2020 11:19AM

McMurphy wrote: »

I asked who you would have been happy with, this doesn't answer the question tbh.

Why am I "not a nice person" because I mentioned Enda and Joan having no reservations whatsoever with placing a dissident republican into the Seanad?

Is any of that untrue?

How many times does it have to be demonstrated and explained to you that Mairia Cahill is not a dissident republican before you stop with the slurs? It is disgusting the way you drag her name through the mud every single time.

A young girl, traumatised and abused by Sinn Fein and the IRA, treated despicably by Gerry Adams, flirted with dissident republicanism for a couple of months, yet you seem to maintain that her dissident republican time is the essence of what she is. She is the continual target of hate from Sinn Fein representatives, supporters, and voters on social media, I would hope that those on here would refrain from dragging themselves down to that level, but that hope seems forlorn.

P.S. All of what you said about Mairia Cahill is untrue.

blanch152 · 13-05-2020 11:23AM

McMurphy wrote: »

I asked who you would have been happy with, this doesn't answer the question tbh.

There are a small number of well-meaning TDs in Sinn Fein - Louise O'Reilly, Pearse Doherty, Eoin O'Broin - the problem is that they lack any real gravitas and seem naive in the ways of the world, putting up simple ideas that lack depth and thought.

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 11:23AM

blanch152 wrote: »

How many times does it have to be demonstrated and explained to you that Mairia Cahill is not a dissident republican before you stop with the slurs? It is disgusting the way you drag her name through the mud every single time.

A young girl, traumatised and abused by Sinn Fein and the IRA, treated despicably by Gerry Adams, flirted with dissident republicanism for a couple of months, yet you seem to maintain that her dissident republican time is the essence of what she is. She is the continual target of hate from Sinn Fein representatives, supporters, and voters on social media, I would hope that those on here would refrain from dragging themselves down to that level, but that hope seems forlorn.

P.S. All of what you said about Mairia Cahill is untrue.

Mairia Cahill admitted herself she was a dissident republican, this is all in the public domain.

Bit of double standards from yourself as per though.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 11:25AM

blanch152 wrote: »

How many times does it have to be demonstrated and explained to you that Mairia Cahill is not a dissident republican before you stop with the slurs? It is disgusting the way you drag her name through the mud every single time.

A young girl, traumatised and abused by Sinn Fein and the IRA, treated despicably by Gerry Adams, flirted with dissident republicanism for a couple of months, yet you seem to maintain that her dissident republican time is the essence of what she is. She is the continual target of hate from Sinn Fein representatives, supporters, and voters on social media, I would hope that those on here would refrain from dragging themselves down to that level, but that hope seems forlorn.

P.S. All of what you said about Mairia Cahill is untrue.

She was nominated and running for the Seanad BEFORE she distanced herself from RNU and said it was a mistake. I am glad she did, she was being hounded for weeks to address it.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 11:26AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do you seriously believe that?
Do you think if 'the IRA were after her' that they would have the slightest difficulty finding out where she lives?

It's not that long ago somebody was posting pictures of Mary Lou's house here, how do you think they found out where she lives. Adams home was widely known and it was actually attacked.

Try and look beyond the statement. Why would running in elections make her anymore of a target than making her claims would have, if the IRA were indeed targeting her?
It doesn't stack up in common sense terms.

So should I look past the statement on
Maria Cahill getting raped by IRA/SF
Paul Quinn getting murdered by IRA/SF
Gerry Adams brother raping his daughter and getting protected by IRA/SF

Do you want me to continue with the list? what exactly am I looking for "beyond the statement", please enlighten me to what you expect to find?

thomasdylan · 13-05-2020 11:33AM

blanch152 wrote: »

There are a small number of well-meaning TDs in Sinn Fein - Louise O'Reilly, Pearse Doherty, Eoin O'Broin - the problem is that they lack any real gravitas and seem naive in the ways of the world, putting up simple ideas that lack depth and thought.

I like Pearse Doherty a lot. Is he very family oriented and settled in Donegal which causes travel issues?

Louise O'Reilly is really weak though, struggles whenever she has to off script. A very poor candidate for health.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 11:34AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

So should I look past the statement on
Maria Cahill getting raped by IRA/SF
Paul Quinn getting murdered by IRA/SF
Gerry Adams brother raping his daughter and getting protected by IRA/SF

Do you want me to continue with the list? what exactly am I looking for "beyond the statement", please enlighten me to what you expect to find?

Ask yourself...is it even remotely credible that if the IRA wanted to attack Mairia Cahill in her home that they would need the electoral register to find out where she lived?

Seriously?

BTW, once again I have to point this out, it is 'alleged' that she was raped. There was a man prepared to go into court to defend himself.

The IMC said (and still waiting for blanch to back up his claim that they changed their findings) that the IRA as an organisation had nothing to do with Paul Quinn's murder. It had, they said, 'connections to local criminal activity'.

Adams and SF have admitted the mistakes made in the handling of Liam Adams. There is hardly an organisation on the island that hasn't had issues handling these things.

Redgirl82 · 13-05-2020 11:40AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ask yourself...is it even remotely credible that if the IRA wanted to attack Mairia Cahill in her home that they would need the electoral register to find out where she lived?

Seriously?

BTW, once again I have to point this out, it is 'alleged' that she was raped. There was a man prepared to go into court to defend himself.

The IMC said (and still waiting for blanch to back up his claim that they changed their findings) that the IRA as an organisation had nothing to do with Paul Quinn's murder. It had, they said, 'connections to local criminal activity'.

Adams and SF have admitted the mistakes made in the handling of Liam Adams. There is hardly an organisation on the island that hasn't had issues handling these things.

So you are saying the FF/FG/Labour have all covered up for families member as they abuse their own children?

That's news to me.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 11:54AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

So you are saying the FF/FG/Labour have all covered up for families member as they abuse their own children?

That's news to me.

What?
The Churches here have had issues.
Scouting Ireland have.
Swim Ireland have.
Etc etc.

How FG and FF handled these are worth looking at if you want to investigate cover-ups and blind eyes being turned. Look up also FF and FG fighting Lousie O'Keefe all the way to the European Courts.
Look at the current controversy surrounding the Ceann Comhairle.

I am not defending SF, what happened with Liam Adams was appalling and a huge mistake, but G. Adams addressed it and apologised for it.
Loads of organisations have had difficulty addressing and handling abuse within their ranks is the point.

Runaways · 13-05-2020 12:12PM

Mango Joe wrote: »

SF support during the election was nothing but an angry protest vote.

Nobody actually wanted them then, nobody wants them now.

If anything it's a useful indicator of the true levels of respect people have for them, their values, their shallow, fickle policies and their cynical empty promises.

You may not have noticed FFFG have simply copied and pasted Sinn Fein’s policies but don’t let that get in the way of a good story.

McMurphy · 13-05-2020 12:12PM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

What's not true is your comment about Maria getting discarded. She wasn't. It was only when she had to release her address she dropped out of local elections. This was because of IRA, which is still protected to this day by Sinn Fein.

Also your comments about Paul Quinn. Disgusting

But continue on with your lies. Maybe some fool will believe them, sure you did when you decided to support Sinn Fein.

Maybe you think it is ok to throw out disgusting comments, that's the problem on internet. But I certainly don't. If I met you face to face you wouldn't say a word. Little coward behind a keyboard. That's a true reflection of what Sinn Fein are about, a group of cowards sitting behind a group of murdering criminal.

You honestly think I'd not repeat what I posted in a face to face chat with yourself?

Mairia Cahill is a self confessed dissident republican who Joan and Enda placed in the Seanad, that's a fact.

Paul Quinn's family were used by FF and FG in the last election campaign.

Why do you think I'd have any reservations whatsoever repeating it to your good self may I ask?

Do you dispute any of the above? If so I'm willing to have my opinion changed if you can provide some irrefutable evidence to counter it.

blanch152 · 13-05-2020 12:17PM

McMurphy wrote: »

You honestly think I'd not repeat what I posted in a face to face chat with yourself?
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No, I don't, nearly all Republican hardmen just talk among themselves about such issues, and post their hateful material on social media from the anonymity of their bedrooms. They don't being it up in decent company.

McMurphy wrote: »

Mairia Cahill is a self confessed dissident republican who Joan and Enda placed in the Seanad, that's a fact.
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It is not, as previously explained.

McMurphy wrote: »

Paul Quinn's family were used by FF and FG in the last election campaign.
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Paul Quinn's family weren't prompted to come forward, they came forward themselves. They could have stayed quiet, that they didn't showed what they think of Sinn Fein.

McMurphy wrote: »

Why do you think I'd have any reservations whatsoever repeating it to your good self may I ask?

Do you dispute any of the above? If so I'm willing to have my opinion changed if you can provide some irrefutable evidence to counter it.

All talk from Republican hardmen when they can be anonymous.

FrancieBrady · 13-05-2020 12:20PM

blanch152 wrote: »

No, I don't, nearly all Republican hardmen just talk among themselves about such issues,

All talk from Republican hardmen when they can be anonymous.

What's the implied threat here from you and Redgirl?

Why wouldn't someone say it to your face? What are you going to do?

maccored · 13-05-2020 12:21PM

McMurphy wrote:

Do you dispute any of the above? If so I'm willing to have my opinion changed if you can provide some irrefutable evidence to counter it.

blanch152 wrote: »

All talk from Republican hardmen when they can be anonymous.

great answer :rolleyes:

Edgware · 13-05-2020 12:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I mean trying to goad people into reveling their identity is a really weak method of debate (and i suspect againest rules?)

Surely you have basic standreds for your own posts

He has. It includes spelling ability.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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