Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

An Ciarraioch · 13-05-2020 06:38PM

Geographic results of the first Spanish antibody test:

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martingriff · 13-05-2020 06:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Day to day variations will be large also, 7 day average is what to look at

Oh I agree with that

13-05-2020 06:38PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Think then it would be useful to know how many test results were provided in that 24 hour period. And per cent of positive cases. I guess when confirmed case numbers per day are relatively low, there could be a bit of an uptick day to day.

That would also be useful, but again only indicative as if they tested a nursing home or 2 with an outbreak in that period it would skew both overall positives and positive rate

Lyle · 13-05-2020 06:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You know more obviously but there are multiple studies that show children are far less infectious, hence far safer
https://www.hiqa.ie/reports-and-publications/health-technology-assessment/evidence-summary-spread-covid-19-children

One small study in Australia does not represent the entire world. In the same way as that horror story of Kawasaki from New York doesn't. There are different mutations of Covid19 doing different things in different places. These are outliers, as of now, because we don't have a pan-global replication of either scenario. Innumerably more studies will be needed before we can have a clear picture on the impact on children and schools should be closed until such a time as we have a clear picture and adequate guidelines and funding from DoE for the school system, particularly at Primary level.

Eod100 · 13-05-2020 06:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That would also be useful, but again only indicative as if they tested a nursing home or 2 with an outbreak in that period it would skew both overall positives and positive rate

Yeah true. Raw numbers without context of location of tests wouldn't be very informative if it's testing a cluster say.

13-05-2020 06:45PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Geographic results of the first Spanish antibody test:

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/spanish-antibody-study-points/

5% of population overall. At that rate deaths are about 1.1%. Just another flu?

Rob A. Bank · 13-05-2020 06:50PM

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 13 May 2020 @ 08:00 hrs. CET.

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The daily cases in Europe are tailing off, though Spain did not report today.

The UK (light green) continues to contribute a large portion of the European cases and in England people are being released from lockdown today and allowed to travel anywhere for 'Day Trips' !

I do hope that some sort of screening of arrivals at ports and airports is instituted ASAP. It's time to defend the island from new infections with tight co-operation North and South.

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

polesheep · 13-05-2020 06:50PM

JazzyJ wrote: »

Not sure what's confusing about the numbers. The fact that there's a lockdown and mass social distancing going on, I'd hazard a really really wild guess as to that's why they're low.

I'd say it's more to do with the virus having burned through the nursing/care homes and we are no longer seeing much in the way of numbers from that source.

polesheep · 13-05-2020 06:52PM

Arghus wrote: »

Lower deaths than any day in recent memory, but there are more cases than yesterday. I know the average over the past few days is still trending downwards, but the confirmed cases yesterday were 107, 159 today.

Gives you hope, does it?

MonkieSocks · 13-05-2020 06:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You know more obviously but there are multiple studies that show children are far less infectious, hence far safer
https://www.hiqa.ie/reports-and-publications/health-technology-assessment/evidence-summary-spread-covid-19-children

Thats a very limited study.

Can you scientifically explain how the virus will infect an adult human being and not infect another younger human being.

We are the same species as Adults as we are as children.

So all human beings can catch it and spread it.

Rob A. Bank · 13-05-2020 06:55PM

INMO Trolley Watch figures for May 13th 2020.

74 beds short in Irish hospitals today, Limerick having the worst problem with 29 cases.

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

wakka12 · 13-05-2020 06:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/spanish-antibody-study-points/

5% of population overall. At that rate deaths are about 1.1%. Just another flu?

Very similar to the Dutch antibody testing, which also determined a mortality rate of around 1.1%

Would make sense that the mortality rate in New York appears a bit lower (0.8%) because it has a considerably younger population than Europe.

lbj666 · 13-05-2020 06:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/spanish-antibody-study-points/

5% of population overall. At that rate deaths are about 1.1%. Just another flu?

Maybe if this herd immunity theory is actually a goer , it could be just another flu in a few years time but at the minute a significant portion of the population are far less resilient to it than yer usual flu.

Its a very interesting study though.

ACitizenErased · 13-05-2020 07:05PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

INMO Trolley Watch figures for May 13th 2020.

74 beds short in Irish hospitals today, Limerick having the worst problem with 29 cases.

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

What's the story with Limerick constantly being full?

wakka12 · 13-05-2020 07:06PM

polesheep wrote: »

I'd say it's more to do with the virus having burned through the nursing/care homes and we are no longer seeing much in the way of numbers from that source.

There have been 750 odd nursing home deaths in ireland, there are about 50,000 people occupying nursing homes in Ireland. Also many more vulnerable people in other residential care facilities for mental health and disability

rafatoni · 13-05-2020 07:08PM

Anyone know where i cam get figures of how many tests are being carried out daily. Cheers.

Probs missed it on here.

13-05-2020 07:08PM

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Thats a very limited study.

Can you scientifically explain how the virus will infect an adult human being and not infect another younger human being.

We are the same species as Adults as we are as children.

So all human beings can catch it and spread it.

Well it is clear than children have been less ill, therefore giving off a lower viral load as the virus reproduces slower rate inside the cells

Tom1991 · 13-05-2020 07:09PM

Lyle wrote: »

One small study in Australia does not represent the entire world. In the same way as that horror story of Kawasaki from New York doesn't. There are different mutations of Covid19 doing different things in different places. These are outliers, as of now, because we don't have a pan-global replication of either scenario. Innumerably more studies will be needed before we can have a clear picture on the impact on children and schools should be closed until such a time as we have a clear picture and adequate guidelines and funding from DoE for the school system, particularly at Primary level.

What's this about Kawasaki in New York,

I got it in 1996 as kid is it on the rise again or something?

Allinall · 13-05-2020 07:13PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

What's the story with Limerick constantly being full?

Rathkeale.

MonkieSocks · 13-05-2020 07:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well it is clear than children have been less ill, therefore giving off a lower viral load as the virus reproduces slower rate inside the cells

Possible....but it is a small study from from a small population density and still way to early to be taking dangerous assumptions about a totally new virus

ceadaoin. · 13-05-2020 07:18PM

nacho libre wrote: »

That's very good, hopefully none of them have been left with long term damage to their lungs and kidneys.

God forbid there can be any good news without instantly having to put a bit of doom and gloom in there!

13-05-2020 07:19PM

Tom1991 wrote: »

What's this about Kawasaki in New York,

I got it in 1996 as kid is it on the rise again or something?

It seems 100 cases of Kawasaki in New York which may be associated with covid, a condition which effects approx 25 in every100,000 children in the US, so for New York about 1000 cases typically, is indicative that the virus has mutated and is going to kill all the children

13-05-2020 07:23PM

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Possible....but it is a small study from from a small population density and still way to early to be taking dangerous assumptions about a totally new virus

The Swiss have said the same and even said kids can hug grandparents with little evidence of cases there increasing

Tom1991 · 13-05-2020 07:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It seems 100 cases of Kawasaki in New York which may be associated with covid, a condition which effects approx 25 in every100,000 children in the US, so for New York about 1000 cases typically, is indicative that the virus has mutated and is going to kill all the children

I think reading online its kawasaki-like not it actually. I Had a quite severe case in the heart valve and muscles surrounding it.
Was due for heart surgery but high(For my age) doses of aspirin over 10 years saw to it I lived a relatively normal life.
Worst part for me was the stress tests I had to take for playing contact sports and the insurance companies handling team sports being a pain.
Hopefully similar treatments can get them on the mend.

Anita Blow · 13-05-2020 07:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

What's the story with Limerick constantly being full?

They have a larger catchment than Beaumont yet operate on a fraction of the specialist staff and beds

davedanon · 13-05-2020 07:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/spanish-antibody-study-points/

5% of population overall. At that rate deaths are about 1.1%. Just another flu?

Typical flu infection rate is 0.1%

dundalkfc10 · 13-05-2020 07:30PM

rafatoni wrote: »

Anyone know where i cam get figures of how many tests are being carried out daily. Cheers.

Probs missed it on here.

They don't know themselves it seems. Shambles, 100,000 a week by the next week though!!!

normanoffside · 13-05-2020 07:32PM

Arghus wrote: »

Lower deaths than any day in recent memory, but there are more cases than yesterday. I know the average over the past few days is still trending downwards, but the confirmed cases yesterday were 107, 159 today.

2 days ago the cases were overstated (by 55?) so they took them off yesterday's number AFAIK

Eod100 · 13-05-2020 07:32PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

They don't know themselves it seems. Shambles, 100,000 a week by the next week though!!!

It's about 45,000 in last week with capacity for 90,000. There's legitimate things to criticise but maybe do a minimum amount of research before doing so.

Jim_Hodge · 13-05-2020 07:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just another flu?

Words fail me!

Still this tripe get peddled.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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