Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 12-05-2020 11:17PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Shocking that UK is lifting lockdown already, 627 feckin deaths today, jesus christ. You'd worry for them, they'll be back into full peak pandemic swing within the next fortnight

Bolsonaro, Johnson, Trump - what do they all have in common regarding the pandemic?

All the worst figures in the world.

Elect stupid leadership get stupid results.

Sure, it was fun at the time - elect them just to stick it to the system.

Problem is when an actual crisis arrives you get the results such leadership provides.

Eod100 · 12-05-2020 11:17PM

GazzaL wrote: »

His newborn child? Getting man to Mars? Building electric cars?

It's privatised space route to Mars so only certain people will be able to go. And in the context of Earth becoming effectively inhabitable due to climate change in not too distant future. Doesn't seem to far-fetched to think wealthy are hoping to have a back-up planet once they've extracted all they can from Earth and leave the poor behind on Earth.

Funsterdelux · 12-05-2020 11:23PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Bolsonaro, Johnson, Trump - what do they all have in common regarding the pandemic?

All the worst figures in the world.

Elect stupid leadership get stupid results.

Sure, it was fun at the time - elect them just to stick it to the system.

Problem is when an actual crisis arrives you get the results such leadership provides.

Will we putin Vlad on the list too?

Stheno · 12-05-2020 11:24PM

Mother of God, US projections now up to 143000 deaths by August 4th due to the reopening

Beasty · 12-05-2020 11:24PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Shocking that UK is lifting lockdown already, 627 feckin deaths today, jesus christ. You'd worry for them, they'll be back into full peak pandemic swing within the next fortnight. Looks like those pessimistic predictions from a few weeks ago of half of the deaths in Europe being in the UK will probably come to fruition

That's what happens when the politicians are running the show.....

Having said that when they read out the country figures across the 4 nations it was just over 400. There's also the weekend dip thing to consider and there was probably a bit of "catch-up" in today's figure

Kermit.de.frog · 12-05-2020 11:26PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Will we putin Vlad on the list too?

Nah, he is not "elected" in the way we might traditionally think of democratic politics :pac:

Professor Moriarty · 12-05-2020 11:27PM

Stheno wrote: »

Mother of God, US projections now up to 143000 deaths by August 4th due to the reopening

A significant cohort of the American public will not accept a reinstatement of containment measures under any circumstances. So the US will be taking the herd immunity option by default

Kermit.de.frog · 12-05-2020 11:27PM

Beasty wrote: »

That's what happens when the politicians are running the show.....

Having said that when they read out the country figures across the 4 nations it was just over 400.

That's only hospital deaths. Full figure is given in the evening now.

fritzelly · 12-05-2020 11:29PM

Stheno wrote: »

Mother of God, US projections now up to 143000 deaths by August 4th due to the reopening

Since all their predictions have been way under let's just say 1 million

Eod100 · 12-05-2020 11:32PM

Stheno wrote: »

Mother of God, US projections now up to 143000 deaths by August 4th due to the reopening

I don't know what they're at. The projected figure was revised upwards 5 times in space of 13 days. They're nowhere near ready to open the economy. Trump either thinks or let's on to think that the Democrats want economy closed to hurt him politically so he will lose in November. He doesnt seem to think or care that thousands of preventable deaths in US will be the result. Its shocking. I know some people think criticism of Trump is exaggerated but this shows how disastrous hes been. The worst US president at the worst time.

Beasty · 12-05-2020 11:32PM

Stheno wrote: »

Mother of God, US projections now up to 143000 deaths by August 4th due to the reopening

And that's before the possibility of further waves

They's gone from something like 34 to 80,000 in 2 months though, and even if they are on top of it now (and many States may well be) it's probably going to be a long tail to the chart

I thought yesterday's figure looked quite promising, but they are back up to 1,500 today. LA County has announced they could extend their stay at home order until July. I guess it's such a big place it's going to be relatively easy for new clusters to crop up. I don't know how much internal travel continues, but the amount of internal flights do risk a rapid escalation

CNN are just saying Disney World (Florida) are taking bookings for July - that really could become a hot bed for this virus if something goes wrong

Kermit.de.frog · 12-05-2020 11:35PM

Beasty wrote: »

CNN are just saying Disney World (Florida) are taking bookings for July - that really could become a hot bed for this virus if something goes wrong

Insanity but then again the state declared WWE as an "essential service".

They have a ridiculous republican governor who is in Trump's circle.

The fish rots from the head down.

I don't see the state making it to July without a complete shut down anyhow.

wakka12 · 12-05-2020 11:36PM

Beasty wrote: »

And that's before the possibility of further waves

They's gone from something like 34 to 80,000 in 2 months though, and even if they are on top of it now (and many States may well be) it's probably going to be a long tail to the chart

I thought yesterday's figure looked quite promising, but they are back up to 1,500 today. LA County has announced they could extend their stay at home order until July. I guess it's such a big place it's going to be relatively easy for new clusters to crop up. I don't know how much internal travel continues, but the amount of internal flights do risk a rapid escalation

CNN are just saying Disney World (Florida) are taking bookings for July - that really could become a hot bed for this virus if something goes wrong

The US has a very dramatic weekend lull. There is still not the same major downward trend occurring there that has been seen in Europe (excluding UK), but they are opening in full force regardless

Beasty · 12-05-2020 11:37PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

That's only hospital deaths. Full figure is given in the evening now.

I'm guessing there's much more of a lag for the non-hospital numbers though. Given their hospital numbers were much higher before they started adding the non-hospital figures, I think their numbers have dropped significantly. Whether enough to warrant more opening up remains to be seen.

The fact this can be asymptomatic does beg questions over anywhere that is opening up. At this stage we don't really know how many could be capable of spreading this at present.

ACitizenErased · 12-05-2020 11:37PM

There's gonna be major issues in Russia. A Youtuber I watch over there is showing videos of the traffic on the streets after Putin's "go back to work" announcement. Incredible stuff.

Invincible · 12-05-2020 11:39PM

First few minutes are heavy going, but worth watching after that.

https://youtu.be/d9GbVZOcT18

Kermit.de.frog · 12-05-2020 11:39PM

Beasty wrote: »

The fact this can be asymptomatic does beg questions over anywhere that is opening up.

The tories have extended furlough scheme to October.

So they implicitly acknowledge big problems ahead yet push to open anyhow.

They have the 3rd worst death toll in the world today so far just behind Brazil.

antodeco · 12-05-2020 11:40PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Its a totally different culture

I guess you could say da'none is paying attention..

Beasty · 12-05-2020 11:41PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Insanity but then again the state declared WWE as an "essential service".

They have a ridiculous republican governor who is in Trump's circle.

The fish rots from the head down.

I don't see the state making it to July without a complete shut down anyhow.

The problem is that some states, probably including Florida, are capable of ploughing on regardless. I'm also concerned that Trump is capable of doing some ridiculous things particularly as he ramps up his actions to try and capture more votes.

New Home · 12-05-2020 11:41PM

Invincible wrote: »

First few minutes are heavy going, but worth watching after that.

https://youtu.be/d9GbVZOcT18

Could you give us a summary of what it's about, please?

fritzelly · 12-05-2020 11:44PM

Invincible wrote: »

First few minutes are heavy going, but worth watching after that.

https://youtu.be/d9GbVZOcT18

Christ almighty - this junk has been posted at least 10 times now

How many deluded people are there in Ireland that listens to a kook who is an anti-vaxxer, believes we have immunity from the first SARS, thinks vitamins stop coronavirus and so on and so on

Edit
Also has some agenda against RTE and other media as she mentions them multiple times

fullstop · 12-05-2020 11:45PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Los Angeles County has extended stay-at-home order for a further 3 months.

https://twitter.com/IndyUSA/status/1260303641950519299

Ho ho ho....meltdown incoming from the Donald.

Kermit.de.frog · 12-05-2020 11:45PM

Beasty wrote: »

The problem is that some states, probably including Florida, are capable of ploughing on regardless. I'm also concerned that Trump is capable of doing some ridiculous things particularly as he ramps up his actions to try and capture more votes.

Yes but there is two critical dangers with Florida for Trump...

1. It has a very politically sensitive constituency of pensioners

2. By extension it has a vulnerable constituency to the virus

They start seeing their neighbors disappear and he is in big trouble in a critical swing state. He needs to win Florida one way or another.

Beasty · 12-05-2020 11:45PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The tories have extended furlough scheme to October.

So they implicitly acknowledge big problems ahead yet push to open anyhow.

They have the 3rd worst death toll in the world today so far just behind Brazil.

I'm not sure I would be confident about figures coming out of Brazil. Equally reports are currently estimating the current UK death toll at well over 40k. Of course if that is accurate and their current reporting is accurate (a big "if" I know) it could indicate the UK are rapidly depressing their curve. As always these deaths are going to be reflecting infections from 2, 3, 4 or more weeks ago

speckle · 12-05-2020 11:45PM

As if things were not bad enough for some patients and familys in russia

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52629781

Invincible · 12-05-2020 11:46PM

New Home wrote: »

Could you give us a summary of what it's about, please?

It's an Irish professor presenting facts regarding the virus, it's treatment with inexpensive anti malaria medicine.

Invincible · 12-05-2020 11:48PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Christ almighty - this junk has been posted at least 10 times now

How many deluded people are there in Ireland that listens to a kook who is an anti-vaxxer, believes we have immunity from the first SARS, thinks vitamins stop coronavirus and so on and so on

Edit
Also has some agenda against RTE and other media as she mentions them multiple times

She's a professor.
What's your relevant qualifications ?

New Home · 12-05-2020 11:49PM

speckle wrote: »

As if things were not bad enough for the patients and familys in russia

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52629781

Good God, that's horrific. They didn't stand a chance...

fullstop · 12-05-2020 11:50PM

Invincible wrote: »

It's an Irish professor presenting facts regarding the virus, it's treatment with inexpensive anti malaria medicine.

LOL. “Facts”

fritzelly · 12-05-2020 11:51PM

Invincible wrote: »

She's a professor.
What's your relevant qualifications ?

So what - she's nuts

Having a piece of paper saying you're a doctor doesn't mean you are sane

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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