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Headford Road currently blocked at Carrowbrowne due to a protest

  • 11-05-2020 11:08pm
    #1
    Zzippy
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    Not speculation. Headford Road currently blocked at Carrowbrowne due to a protest. 40-50 people out on the road blocking traffic. Cars being turned around and not allowed to proceed.


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  • #2
    Discodog
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Not speculation. Headford Road currently blocked at Carrowbrowne due to a protest. 40-50 people out on the road blocking traffic. Cars being turned around and not allowed to proceed.

    Strange that Google maps show no delays


  • #3
    Zzippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Discodog wrote: »
    Strange that Google maps show no delays

    It's not showing any colour, green red or otherwise on that stretch of road.


  • #4
    _Whimsical_
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Not speculation. Headford Road currently blocked at Carrowbrowne due to a protest. 40-50 people out on the road blocking traffic. Cars being turned around and not allowed to proceed.

    Any indication of what they're protesting about?
    Are there placards or is it just angry people stamping feet?


  • #5
    Zzippy
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    _Whimsical_ wrote: »
    Any indication of what they're protesting about?
    Are there placards or is it just angry people stamping feet?

    I just posted what I know to be fact. Not going to engage in speculation. I'm sure there are a few posts on social media by now.


  • #6
    jammiedodgers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Very concerned to be sent this video circulating tonight of the Headford Rd being blocked off in protest against Garda checkpoints in the area. An ambulance was blocked for a period of time on the road as it was unable to get through and I'm advised that a number of nurses going to work, and one on their way home after completing a long shift, were also prevented from proceeding along the road. I have spoken to Gardaí in the area and the situation is now under control and the road open. I want to make it clear that this is entirely unacceptable and is condoned by all in the wider area. The Gardaí have been doing an incredible job and are there for everyone's safety and benefit during this national crisis and perfectly upholding the laws. Everyone is in this together and we must all play our part to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

    Per Cllr James Charity on Facebook along with a video


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  • #7
    cfeeneyinterior
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    https://www.facebook.com/154787634696864/posts/1566056280236652/


  • #8
    Laviski
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    Ssssshhhhh folks,
    Can't be talking about anything like here to single out a particular group despite the obvious which isn't rumour, they are a law onto themselves. Wouldn't allow emergency service to get through....

    I'll feel for any guard having to be near to diffuse the situation.


  • #9
    Mrs OBumble
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    It's not showing any colour, green red or otherwise on that stretch of road.

    It didn't last night either. AFAIK it doesn't show at times when volumes are light.


  • #10
    Whereisgalway
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Not speculation. Headford Road currently blocked at Carrowbrowne due to a protest. 40-50 people out on the road blocking traffic. Cars being turned around and not allowed to proceed.

    Not a single “protester” adhering to social distance. What the hell are they protesting for?


  • #11
    youngrun
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    Finally some people have the courage to protest against the infernal restrictions and loss of freedoms.


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  • #12
    Discodog
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    Whereisgalway wrote: »
    Not a single “protester” adhering to social distance. What the hell are they protesting for?

    I would have zero sympathy for that particular group but I think the Gardai got this very wrong. Whilst they stopped everyone, it was clear that the checkpoints were targeting one group. Anyone that had a checkpoint, each side of their home, practically 24/7 for days would feel singled out. A single undercover car could of done the job with minimal fuss.

    Looks like the checkpoints are back this morning.


  • #13
    Bullocks
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I would have zero sympathy for that particular group but I think the Gardai got this very wrong. Whilst they stopped everyone, it was clear that the checkpoints were targeting one group. Anyone that had a checkpoint, each side of their home, practically 24/7 for days would feel singled out. A single undercover car could of done the job with minimal fuss.

    Looks like the checkpoints are back this morning.

    A single car couldn't have covered either side of the site.
    The guards are trying to protect everyone else, I don't think they had any choice but to set up like they did.
    They swing out onto the road there with the horses and assume everyone else will see them coming and stop, it was only a short matter of time before someone got smathered by a car the way they were carrying on.

    Would the cops have been allowed to use their batons to disperse the crowd when they were blocking the ambulance I wonder? Some clowns not to let that past


  • #14
    zell12
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    Isn't that in the County?


  • #15
    Laviski
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    A single car couldn't have covered either side of the site.
    The guards are trying to protect everyone else, I don't think they had any choice but to set up like they did.
    They swing out onto the road there with the horses and assume everyone else will see them coming and stop, it was only a short matter of time before someone got smathered by a car the way they were carrying on.

    Would the cops have been allowed to use their batons to disperse the crowd when they were blocking the ambulance I wonder? Some clowns not to let that past

    in a different era a solution would have happened to sort this out.

    but can't affect their culture sure, so doom the rest of us as a result with their behavior and antics


  • #16
    Mrs OBumble
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    youngrun wrote: »
    Finally some people have the courage to protest against the infernal restrictions and loss of freedoms.

    Yeah, tell that to the people whose loved ones have died of Covid.

    <<rolleyes>>


  • #17
    cal naughton
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    zell12 wrote: »
    Isn't that in the County?

    Ha I was wondering when somebody would bring this up!


  • #18
    biko
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    Meh, it can stay.


  • #19
    Wompa1
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    On the other thread someone mention the sulkies but I didn't want to add to it since there was warnings on it. A couple of weeks ago when driving back toward Headford, there were two young lads flying on Sulkies.

    They brought it on themselves.


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
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    Discodog wrote: »
    I would have zero sympathy for that particular group but I think the Gardai got this very wrong. Whilst they stopped everyone, it was clear that the checkpoints were targeting one group. Anyone that had a checkpoint, each side of their home, practically 24/7 for days would feel singled out. A single undercover car could of done the job with minimal fuss.

    Looks like the checkpoints are back this morning.

    They deserve to be singled out. You would swear you were talking about law abiding model citizens.
    youngrun wrote: »
    Finally some people have the courage to protest against the infernal restrictions and loss of freedoms.

    You really have a very poor understanding of the situation.


  • #21
    Blondie919
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    youngrun wrote: »
    Finally some people have the courage to protest against the infernal restrictions and loss of freedoms.

    I don't think you know the true reason here.


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  • #22
    Discodog
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    Nylah CoolS Businessman wrote: »
    They deserve to be singled out. You would swear you were talking about law abiding model citizens.



    You really have a very poor understanding of the situation.

    My concern is purely that I think they could be being given ammunition for a discrimination case. It's very clear why the two checkpoints have been set up & it's pretty unique.


  • #23
    youngrun
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    Nylah CoolS Businessman wrote: »
    They deserve to be singled out. You would swear you were talking about law abiding model citizens.



    You really have a very poor understanding of the situation.

    Why do they deserve to be singled out ?


  • #24
    youngrun
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    Blondie919 wrote: »
    I don't think you know the true reason here.

    Please explain?


  • #25
    Blondie919
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    youngrun wrote: »
    Please explain?

    Why are they brave to protest against travel restrictions which everyone of us in this country has been asked and directed to by our government? What right do they have to block off a national road? It's an illegal act in which there is no social distancing being taken. Why should they be allowed to put others lives at risk? There is no justifiable reason for it.


  • #26
    alias no.9
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    youngrun wrote: »
    Why do they deserve to be singled out ?

    As long as they're being singled out on the basis of their own actions, nothing wrong with it.

    I'm sure any others acting in a similar manner would be singled out in the same way.


  • #27
    Blondie919
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    Are they actually protesting? I haven't heard or seen a spokesperson come out to tell us why they are protesting. No other group has protested against restrictions in this city, county or country. What are they really "protesting" about?


  • #28
    Blondie919
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    youngrun wrote: »
    Why do they deserve to be singled out ?

    They are being singled out because they are the only people who have taken this stance against restrictions in this country.


  • #29
    Bullocks
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    Discodog wrote: »
    My concern is purely that I think they could be being given ammunition for a discrimination case. It's very clear why the two checkpoints have been set up & it's pretty unique.

    I hope if they did take a case that a judge would be quick to throw it out but of course in this country you never know if common sense will prevail in a courtroom


  • #30
    Blondie919
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    I hope if they did take a case that a judge would be quick to throw it out but of course in this country you never know if common sense will prevail in a courtroom

    If they do take a case I would hope the public outcry would be massive.


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  • #31
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    youngrun wrote: »
    Why do they deserve to be singled out ?

    Because in this case specifically, widespread movement was observed in and out of a given location where a certain group resided indicating both continued operation of their normal non essential "business", and continued interaction with members of the group living elsewhere. Also been suggested that there may be positive cases within the group also. So its targeted policing based on observed behaviour and the very opposite of singling out


  • #32
    Wompa1
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    Discodog wrote: »
    My concern is purely that I think they could be being given ammunition for a discrimination case. It's very clear why the two checkpoints have been set up & it's pretty unique.

    If the other aspect of the rumor turns out to be true and there's a cluster of the virus there and they have still refused to isolate. It may not be discrimination on account of who they are but rather, on account of their actions.

    There are clusters in nursing homes. They stopped visitors and the residents don't go out.


  • #33
    collywobble7
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    That's not a protest. It's scumbags standing on a road


  • #34
    rickis tache
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    There were checkpoints on curraline at both ends last week. These protesters were saying they were being singled out but we all kniw the truth. Wink.


  • #35
    Doctors room ghost
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    They should deploy the army and use any means necessary to remove the protesters from a public road.
    Absolute fcukin scum to block an ambulance.
    Generations of entitlement protesting their rights.
    Rebels without a cause and leeches upon society.


  • #36
    Paddico
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    Any pictures?


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  • #37
    biko
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    Paddico wrote: »
    Any pictures?
    cfeeneyinterior posted a FB video above from Cllr. James Charity


  • #38
    Discodog
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    The Gardai have unprecedented powers. If someone has Coronavirus they can be ordered to remain home & there are severe penalties for non compliance.

    They don't need to use the excuse of checkpoints.


  • #39
    Snow Garden
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    <allegations>


  • #40
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    Bullocks wrote: »
    I hope if they did take a case that a judge would be quick to throw it out but of course in this country you never know if common sense will prevail in a courtroom

    If they get them as far as a court room I'm sure there is plenty of other business which can be delt with on the day after throwing out the case.
    Discodog wrote: »
    The Gardai have unprecedented powers. If someone has Coronavirus they can be ordered to remain home & there are severe penalties for non compliance.

    They don't need to use the excuse of checkpoints.

    There is severe penalties for most of what this crowed would be up to but they ignore it at the best of times so why would now be any different. They need to be forced to stay where they are that is quite clear and can't believe its being questioned (except by sh*t stirrers which I don't consider you as).


  • #41
    youngrun
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Because in this case specifically, widespread movement was observed in and out of a given location where a certain group resided indicating both continued operation of their normal non essential "business", and continued interaction with members of the group living elsewhere. Also been suggested that there may be positive cases within the group also. So its targeted policing based on observed behaviour and the very opposite of singling out

    There is no restriction on free movement for certain reasons eg work, shopping, exercise

    So why the continued checkpoints and why the protests ? Surely reasonable if people are prevented from doing what they are allowed to under the restrictions ?


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  • #42
    Discodog
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    Nylah CoolS Businessman wrote: »
    If they get them as far as a court room I'm sure there is plenty of other business which can be delt with on the day after throwing out the case.



    There is severe penalties for most of what this crowed would be up to but they ignore it at the best of times so why would now be any different. They need to be forced to stay where they are that is quite clear and can't believe its being questioned (except by sh*t stirrers which I don't consider you as).

    I don't see how a checkpoint achieves this. Anyone can say that they are going shopping etc.


  • #43
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    Discodog wrote: »
    The Gardai have unprecedented powers. If someone has Coronavirus they can be ordered to remain home & there are severe penalties for non compliance.

    They don't need to use the excuse of checkpoints.

    All evidence to the contrary


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
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    youngrun wrote: »
    There is no restriction on free movement for certain reasons eg work, shopping, exercise

    So why the continued checkpoints and why the protests ? Surely reasonable if people are prevented from doing what they are allowed to under the restrictions ?

    Essential work that's not possible from home. Maybe it can be argued collecting scrap metal is essential?
    What has been observed is that it was business as normal in this particular location with this particular group.


  • #45
    timmyntc
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    I would've thought the checkpoints were to stop sulky racing on that road - aswell as deterring any would be burglars.


  • #46
    Fann Linn
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    youngrun wrote: »
    There is no restriction on free movement for certain reasons eg work, shopping, exercise

    So why the continued checkpoints and why the protests ? Surely reasonable if people are prevented from doing what they are allowed to under the restrictions ?


    Id say you could delete 'work' from this particular case as a reason for free movement.


  • #47
    Mrs OBumble
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    youngrun wrote: »
    There is no restriction on free movement for certain reasons eg work, shopping, exercise

    There is if you or a member of your household is diagnosed with certain notifiable diseases.


  • #48
    Tiredalways
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    Its well known at the minute there is an outbreak in the camp.there has been a checkpoint at the halting site for a week nearly to attempt to curtail travel from the camp. they want to be out and about in the public (hence the 'protest').i dont think its unreasonable to ask the travellers to stay put till its passed.anything they need shopping medicine etc is been brought to them. And if we blocked an ambulance (as they did last night) we'd be arrested.


  • #49
    flazio
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    Lack of arrests is probably down to the fact that the Ambulance service is likely reluctant to press charges owing to the fact that if anyone on that camp rings 999 for an ambulance, they cannot refuse to respond and to make that process as smooth as possible, they need the travellers to trust them.


  • #50
    Discodog
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    There is if you or a member of your household is diagnosed with certain notifiable diseases.

    In that case do it properly & put a Garda car across the entrance.


  • #51
    [Deleted User]
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    Further reports of disruption on the Headford road.

    512688.jpg


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