Take away pints

inisboffin · 09-05-2020 5:38am #1

Monroes have been doing take away food I know, but any truth to the claim they were doing take away pints yesterday???

People seen at the canal with take away cups. It's one thing (although not the best idea in the world, if even legal) if individuals got food and drink take away and opened cans, but another if these were pints? I can't imagine they were pouring were they?

09-05-2020 9:59am

I read somewhere that a pub in cork starting to sell take away pints this weekend as for as I remember they were going to be pouring draft into plastic takeaway pint glasses.

jh79 · 09-05-2020 10:16am

12 in Barna are doing 2 pint growlers and cocktails.

ben.schlomo · 09-05-2020 10:29am

Are people really that desperate?

jh79 · 09-05-2020 10:56am

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Are people really that desperate?

Not really, was getting food anyways so thought might as well.

meath4sam · 09-05-2020 10:58am

What’s the difference between a take away pint and buying cans for half the price in the shop?

cal naughton · 09-05-2020 11:00am

meath4sam wrote: »

What’s the difference between a take away pint and buying cans for half the price in the shop?

More likes on social media!!

jh79 · 09-05-2020 11:03am

meath4sam wrote: »

What’s the difference between a take away pint and buying cans for half the price in the shop?

The stout and lager the 12 are selling are not available in the shops.

dubrov · 09-05-2020 11:17am

Surely no one is paying a fiver for a takeaway pint in a plastic cup?

inisboffin · 09-05-2020 11:55am

I knew the 12 were doing take away cocktails with dinner, but that was in a baggie I think.
I'd assume the biggest difference is that there's a good chance you'd consume the pint on the street, which is what I heard happened around the corner in a usual spot outside another (closed) pub.
I wasn't there so don't know if this was the case, or it was people opening cans (again slightly different thing) while eating their dinner.

Whereisgalway · 09-05-2020 11:56am

dubrov wrote: »

Surely no one is paying a fiver for a takeaway pint in a plastic cup?

Plenty of covididiots out there

ax530 · 09-05-2020 12:00pm

I know that Guinness refunded pubs for unsold stock. This involved taking barrels away, cleaning out pipes ect due to cost of running can't see pubs leaving cold rooms, gas& cooling systems on while not selling lots of pints. These systems have been turned off.
So anyplace which is offering them I would avoid as don't think the service teams are going around cleaning lines at this time.

zell12 · 09-05-2020 12:07pm

Shocking

Imbibing de alcohol in a public place is an offence

Shocked

Mrs OBumble · 09-05-2020 12:33pm

inisboffin wrote: »

I knew the 12 were doing take away cocktails with dinner, but that was in a baggie I think.
I'd assume the biggest difference is that there's a good chance you'd consume the pint on the street, which is what I heard happened around the corner in a usual spot outside another (closed) pub.
I wasn't there so don't know if this was the case, or it was people opening cans (again slightly different thing) while eating their dinner.

FWIW I walked down that street at about 7pm.

Didn't see anyone drinking from pub-issue looking plastic cups.

inisboffin · 09-05-2020 1:16pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

FWIW I walked down that street at about 7pm.

Didn't see anyone drinking from pub-issue looking plastic cups.

Thanks. I heard it was earlier, but again *did not* see this myself (but heard from 3 separate individuals that there was a queue and 'heiniken cups' being drunk).

I was asking the question if this was happening. Now if it did will anyone admit to doing it is doubtful

inisboffin · 09-05-2020 1:30pm

zell12 wrote: »

Shocking

Imbibing de alcohol in a public place is an offence

Shocked

LOL! Yeah yeah for some that never stopped, but what I found surprising was (IF THIS IS THE CASE) people were gathering on the streets with pints. Lots of take away places like the Twelve were doing take home booze around the country (with food), but an open cup? So nobody has witnessed this on here? Maybe it was a mirage...(although I doubt it).

ben.schlomo · 09-05-2020 4:00pm

jh79 wrote: »

The stout and lager the 12 are selling are not available in the shops.

What are they?

jh79 · 09-05-2020 4:09pm

ben.schlomo wrote: »

What are they?

Their own stout and lager, contract brewed i'd image. Can't remember the names.

JoeA3 · 09-05-2020 5:45pm

Several pubs around the country have been doing this for weeks. My brother in law has availed of it in Dublin. Nice novelty but yeah is €5+ for a sloppy “pint” in a plastic cup.

I heard earlier that the Kings Head were doing it but it’s been confirmed to be fake news.

Friend of mine runs a pub and Guinness did take away most of the kegs and cleaned the pipes. He managed to keep a couple of kegs though

09-05-2020 8:35pm

I would be surprised if they were - would they not need an off licence rather than a pub licence.

Most likely was people getting plastic cups while buying from an off licence.

Storm 10 · 09-05-2020 8:39pm

Passed Today sign for chicken wings and a pint fair play great idea to keep going in this crisis

inisboffin · 09-05-2020 10:42pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

Passed Today sign for chicken wings and a pint fair play great idea to keep going in this crisis

Monroes? Yeah my friend said he thought he saw burger and a pint sign yesterday.
So here's the thing, you can't drive with open alcohol, you *technically* can't drink outside, unless a premises' tables etc, and premises are closed for all but take away.

Are the authorities turning a blind eye to a few people gathering outside a pub?
Personally I don't care either way if people are being safe, but the 'gathering' thing outside doesn't happen until 18th.
When I passed there was only food but another friend said they past people pinting.

inisboffin · 09-05-2020 10:44pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I would be surprised if they were - would they not need an off licence rather than a pub licence.

Most likely was people getting plastic cups while buying from an off licence.

No apparently not. Don't know of many who get a can and pour it into a large plastic pint cup anyway.

undertaker fan 88 · 09-05-2020 10:46pm

The bar in cork selling the take away pints got told stop by the guards

Mr Man · 11-05-2020 9:08am

I passed Monroes on Friday evening around 6pm.
There were a couple of people sitting on the canal wall drinking what appeared to be pints.
There was also a fairly irate looking garda on his bike at the Monroes hatch.
I'm not sure if these two things were connected.

youngrun · 12-05-2020 9:21am

Doubt this is legal . Pubs have an On Licence not an Off licence ie drinks must be consumed on the premises...

12-05-2020 11:25am

youngrun wrote: »

Doubt this is legal . Pubs have an On Licence not an Off licence ie drinks must be consumed on the premises...

Most of these rules are being waived at the moment. Most restaurants aren’t allowed to sell takeaway but they are at the moment.

Mrs OBumble · 12-05-2020 11:44am

Winston Most Pollution wrote: »

Most of these rules are being waived at the moment. Most restaurants aren’t allowed to sell takeaway but they are at the moment.

Planning conditions are in a different league to licensing laws though.

hynesie08 · 12-05-2020 12:42pm

youngrun wrote: »

Doubt this is legal . Pubs have an On Licence not an Off licence ie drinks must be consumed on the premises...

Publicans license covers on and off, once they're following the rules for an off licence, nothing illegal about it.

Robbo · 12-05-2020 12:51pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

Publicans license covers on and off, once they're following the rules for an off licence, nothing illegal about it.

I'm sure Tommy Varden has had a serious run on closed pint glasses to cope with this demand.

Geuze · 13-05-2020 1:32am

Deleted User wrote: »

I would be surprised if they were - would they not need an off licence rather than a pub licence.

Most likely was people getting plastic cups while buying from an off licence.

Every pub can sell off-licence, can't they?

You can walk into a pub, and buy cans/bottles to take away?

Andrea B. · 13-05-2020 7:57am

If i can't be reasonably satisfied (line of sight of process) that a hand has not touched the rim or lid of my glass / cup, I am not touching my lips to it. Same before this outbreak.

13-05-2020 8:49am

Geuze wrote: »

Every pub can sell off-licence, can't they?

You can walk into a pub, and buy cans/bottles to take away?

Well today I learned that yes - that us true:
https://www.revenue.ie/en/companies-and-charities/excise-and-licences/excise-licensing/publicans-licences/index.aspx
'A Publican’s Licence allows the holder to sell alcohol for consumption both on and off their premises.'

inisboffin · 13-05-2020 7:09pm

I think the issue is not them selling bottled stuff, it's selling open pints.

That means open alcohol is being consumed off premises (the premises are closed for sit in/outside service).

That means people either drive home with the open pint (is this illegal here, it is in the US for sure), or consume outside (technically illegal). You see the loop here.

The other thing is the 'gathering' aspect. Again, if people are distancing I don't have a big problem with it (no different to festival season, except the pubs are closed and we are in a pandemic!), but it doesn't sound like they were and they weren't discouraged by the business either (but that's a whole other argument).

cson · 13-05-2020 9:29pm

inisboffin wrote: »

That means people either drive home with the open pint (is this illegal here, it is in the US for sure), or consume outside (technically illegal). You see the loop here.

Depends on the State in the US - in Alabama for example not only is it legal to have an 'open container', its also legal to drink away so long as you're under the BAC limit.

inisboffin · 14-05-2020 1:10am

cson wrote: »

Depends on the State in the US - in Alabama for example not only is it legal to have an 'open container', its also legal to drink away so long as you're under the BAC limit.

You're right, forgot it was state by state (I think it's about 4 out of 5 don't like it there, and you can guess which states they are

). Still do we really think people are driving home in their cars to Knocknacarra with full pints? :pac: Driving with open booze may actually be legal here though, but can't see the majority waiting to get up the hill.

thesandeman · 14-05-2020 3:32am

inisboffin wrote: »

Still do we really think people are driving home in their cars to Knocknacarra with full pints? :pac: Driving with open booze may actually be legal here though, but can't see the majority waiting to get up the hill.

A Guinness in one hand and a mobile phone in the other.

biko · 14-05-2020 1:15pm

Just banned a poster for encouraging drinking while driving (post deleted).
Please don't be next, I have better things to do than banning trolls.

inisboffin · 16-05-2020 7:09pm

Update re the pints thing. Friend in Dublin posted pics today of a few spots doing take away booze. Most were (like the 12) selling Growlers of craft brew, particular to them OR harder to get.

A pub in Rathmines is doing pint delivery (it says you have to order (pricey) food but it's common knowledge that you can just get the pints or cocktails no bother).
It's actually quite cool - a van with a keg and a tap arrive at your house and it really is a fresh pint. Someone else may speak to the legality of this, but honestly this seems like a good option if someone did it here.

The others were a couple of pics of places doing take away beer/wine. There were some people sitting apart but big groups also gathered, and he saw gardaí move people on.

My question is, as we move forward and ask people to social distance, why is the thing discouraging this not addressed? They could even let Monroes have a few socially distanced tables outside with minimum seating. Just like letting people in the shop a few at a time, that would control it and also say again 'only for consumption in designated area' or something, and slap a €20 deposit on the glass?

ben.schlomo · 16-05-2020 7:44pm

Caribou are doing wine, cans and growlers as part of their take away offering.

TheCitizen · 16-05-2020 9:00pm

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Caribou are doing wine, cans and growlers as part of their take away offering.

'And he whistled for a growler and he said "My men".....'

Andrew00 · 16-05-2020 9:40pm

The f*ck is a Growler

Buddy74 · 17-05-2020 7:49am

Andrew00 wrote: »

The f*ck is a Growler

A Growler is a refillable container, into which draught beer is poured for home consumption. Today’s Growler comes in many different shapes and sizes – 2 litre, 1 litre, 64 floz, 32 floz, glass, ceramic, plastic and stainless steel as well as many novelty shapes.

Galway Bay Brewery have them or did. If you like the beer your drinking you can take it home. Only seen it really popular in California's craft brew places

beardybrewer · 17-05-2020 11:27am

Growlers are very common in brewpubs to sell their beer to fans without the hassle of commercial bottling.

Regarding the future of pubs selling more pints/cocktails for delivery I've been thinking those heat sealing machines they use for bubble tea would work great for that.

https://youtu.be/Kt6PdTP9mlI?t=129

biko · 17-05-2020 11:34am

Meh, cans of Guinness from Lidl is all I need.

thesandeman · 23-05-2020 4:53pm

It's been clarified now. Pubs can legally serve pints (and other beverages) for takeaway.
However they must be consumed further than 100 metres from the premises and not in a public place.

I suppose that means you're fecked if you live next door to the pub?

thesandeman · 23-05-2020 5:14pm

I forgot to add you may also travel outside of the 5k limit in order to collect your take away pint as it's classified as essential the same as groceries etc.
You couldn't make it up!

Mrs OBumble · 23-05-2020 6:18pm

thesandeman wrote: »

I suppose that means you're fecked if you live next door to the pub?

Or above it :-)

Visit your mate who lives 105m down the road and drink it in his garden.

thesandeman · 23-05-2020 6:52pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Or above it :-)

Visit your mate who lives 105m down the road and drink it in his garden.

Can I travel up the fifty miles to get a pint and drink it in your gaf?
Mr O' can do the opposite and have one in mine.
Tis all legal.

inisboffin · 23-05-2020 7:15pm

thesandeman wrote: »

Can I travel up the fifty miles to get a pint and drink it in your gaf?
Mr O' can do the opposite and have one in mine.
Tis all legal.

Yep this. Makes no sense at all.

thesandeman · 23-05-2020 7:29pm

Somebody will probably appeal it. I suppose in fairness nobody would be prepared for an anomaly like that.

Take away pints

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